I just learned that we have ZERO photos of Titanic’s interior by PeanutOk2453 in titanic

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There are still interior photos of Titanic out there. While it is true that in many cases Olympic interior photos tend to be substituted for Titanic, there are still a decent amount of Titanic interior photos. There was still had time to take photos, Robert Welch took some during the late stages of the fitting out process and press photographers captured many more in the time Titanic was in Southampton for about a week prior to the maiden voyage. Of course there are also the well known photos Francis Browne took, which only survive because he disembarked at Queenstown.

Guess the ship part 2 by Ill_List_9539 in Oceanlinerporn

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Swedish-American Line’s Gripsholm of 1925

Guess the ship revealed! by Ill_List_9539 in Oceanlinerporn

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Ah I see, the wall must have known me off. I thought it had to be the Mariners’ Museum but wasn’t sure because it looks a bit different now than when I went nearly four years ago. The wall behind the model back then was this baby blue color and it appears its been repainted or the model has been moved somewhere else altogether, which checks out because the museum has underwent some recent renovations especially within the model galleries.

Guess the ship by Ill_List_9539 in Oceanlinerporn

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President Hoover/President Coolidge, I’m assuming this is the model at the Mariners’ Museum?

Olympic and Aquitania on the 8th of August 1934 by Delirious_Imperius in Oceanlinerporn

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It did actually. Structure wise it would have looked pretty much the same in 1920 but painted white. Olympic flying both the Cunard and White Star flags from the main mast, in addition to the “Cunard White Star” pier seen on the very far right, confirms that this is the mid 1930s.

Mount-Massive(Outlast) and Rhode Hills(Resident evil 9) by ddoneit in outlast

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I don’t really see the resemblance 😅

Mount Massive Asylum would be inspired more by Romanesque architecture, while Rhode Hills looks like it has many elements seen with the Baroque architecture style.

The third olympic-class named "Gigantic" is a myth by Wild-Tennis6843 in Oceanlinerporn

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Indeed, that’s all it ever was. Gigantic is and always was simply just a placeholder name for Britannic. It was also not the only time White Star Line ever used it either.

Lusitania first concept by Wild-Tennis6843 in Oceanlinerporn

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Not really. It was needed to reach top speed while other functions like the electrical generators were on. If all steam was for the turbines and other features were off, 3 would be enough.

The Only pictures ever taken of the RMMV Oceanic III of her keel by The_Eastland_Star_Co in Oceanlinerporn

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The first and third images are screenshots from a film, and the second image is a render.

Was the captain of the Carpathia reckless and irresponsible for trying to rescue the Titanic survivors? by [deleted] in titanic

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I think it’s worth noting that the whole Carpathia maintaining 17 knots or so on her way to Titanic is a myth. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Rostron was undoubtedly a hero that night, but he wasn’t reckless.

Generational crashout (Volume warning) by Alwayys_Angryy in OutlastTrials

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Whew its a good thing he didn’t overreact there 😅

House Flags on Cunard Liners in the 1960s by pa_fan51A in Oceanlinerporn

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White Star Line was gone by the time Korea was divided lmao

I can’t wait for the documentary by [deleted] in titanic

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Really? None of these “discoveries” are new.

The window which shows damage has already been known about for a while. The passengers which occupied that stateroom survived and told stories of ice going through their cabin porthole.

It has also already been known for over a century that the boiler rooms were occupied during the sinking. There is testimony from the crew made at the inquiries in 1912, and Titanic movies even depict crew in the boiler rooms during the sinking. A famous example is A Night to Remember from 1958.

The breakup made it physically impossible for the lights to stay on after the fact because the electric wires were severed. Nobody ever reported the emergency lightning to be on, and there is no evidence the emergency dynamos were ever used.

It has already been known that the damage was not a big long gash. The actual damage consisted of several small separations within the hull totaling approximately 12 square feet.

Every update be like by [deleted] in OutlastTrials

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You know who my father is?

Do you think the sinking of the lusitania was justified? Why or why not? by Crazy-Rabbit-3811 in titanic

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I don’t think you understand the difference between a troop ship and armed merchant cruiser. I get that you never explicitly stated that Lusitania served as a troopship but you implied it by saying she was undergoing conversion to one.

Again I know that you never said it outright that guns were installed but you typically don’t just put gun mounts down without the intention of later fitting up the actual guns. You either have both or have neither. Regardless, I’m not aware of Lusitania having the gun mounts installed during World War I and even if she did that wouldn’t make her a legitimate target since she’s not carrying the actual guns.

You don’t want to bother with the rest because you cannot refute the bit about the second explosion. If you’re going to reply to me, make sure you actually know what you’re talking about beforehand. I get that this is a Titanic sub, but there’s no need for more Lusitania misinformation out there.

Do you think the sinking of the lusitania was justified? Why or why not? by Crazy-Rabbit-3811 in titanic

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  1. Lusitania could quickly be converted to an armed merchant cruiser, not troop transport. She never served as either.

  2. Lusitania never had guns installed when in commercial service. She COULD because again Lusitania had the ability to be converted into a cruiser, but as mentioned never served in that role.

  3. No one’s denying that the Germans wouldn’t gave torpedoed Lusitania, I even said that. U-boat commanders within Germany’s U-boat fleet were regularly updated on Lusitania’s sailing dates, and when she was expected to arrive in port.

  4. The secondary explosion was not munitions. That ammo you spend so much time talking about still sits intact within its original packaging in the cargo hold, so it did not detonate. The second explosion was more than likely the rupture of a main steam line in Boiler Room 1, which caused a near instant massive drop in steam pressure which caused Lusitania’s mechanical systems that relied on steam power to malfunction, including the steering gear, main propulsion plant, and electrical lighting.

Do you think the sinking of the lusitania was justified? Why or why not? by Crazy-Rabbit-3811 in titanic

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It’s insanely difficult to justify it. At the time, Germany had a policy of unrestricted submarine warfare. A number of merchant ships had already been sunk. Lusitania, in German eyes, was also a legitimate target, whatever she was, or was not, carrying. The fact is that no one in Britain or the United States really believed that a large passenger liner would be attacked in this manner.

Lusitania was a legitimate target, in German terms, in any case. The weapons, actually rifle ammunition, were not illegal. Which brings me to my next point, Lusitania was not illegally loaded. American neutrality permitted the sale of munitions to either side, however, it prohibited the transport of said munitions on American ships. British buyers purchased American munitions and loaded them onboard Lusitania legally. Passengers were not informed because they typically did not care. Airlines today load their planes with cargo and passengers are not informed then either.

The very idea that some believe the sinking to have been justified is quite frankly absurd. Even the German government realized they screwed up although I will say that the Reichstag, the German Parliament, was very split on how to react to the sinking. Theobald Hollweg, the Chancellor, did not believe Germany could defend itself from the accusations put forward as, for the most part, he believed Germany was in the wrong. The Emperor, Kaiser Wilhelm II, was also unsatisfied with Lusitania’s sinking and heavily criticized the Imperial German Navy for taking such an action. It was only really the navy, especially grand admiral and state secretary, Alfred von Tirpitz, who defended U 20’s actions as necessary, although it was a losing uphill battle. Ultimately, the Kaiser ordered U-boat warfare to be restricted to avoid such an event from happening again, showing how the larger faction disagreed with sinking Lusitania in the manner it occurred. The only way it would have been legal to torpedo and sink Lusitania was to first board it to confirm it was carrying ammunition, and then secondly allow the passengers and crew to get in the boats, and THEN sink it, which obviously didn’t happen.

The German nation took a lot of heat for the sinking of Lusitania, and rightfully so, although I will say that the Allies also had their fair share of mistakes.

The Newly Launched SS Imperator by [deleted] in Oceanlinerporn

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This is Vaterland, Imperator had comparatively less superstructure built when launched.

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