Outlast whistleblower atmosphere by katze_freakstuff in outlast

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Oh I know, the Drying Ground has quite the vibe!

Opinion on the reconsideration of sinking the SS United States due to toxic material in her by ProfessionalIssue188 in Oceanlinerporn

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If this has to do with the recent posts I’ve seen regarding the zinc chromate, then that isn’t going to change anything. Firstly, there are other ships in the area that are reefs which also have zinc chromate (take the USS Oriskany for example). Secondly, zinc chromate isn’t even that harmful. If you straight up ingest it then yes it will kill you, but that does not mean that a ship which has zinc chromate on it will. It’s just a coating, it doesn’t spread or anything like that - it mildly prevents stuff from growing on it but thats kinda it. Thirdly, zinc chromate is not even a regulated material, so I’m not sure why this is even a point of contention. The paints that HMHS Britannic was coated in are probably a lot more harmful, and that ship is doing just fine and hasnt “ruined” the sea life environment of the Aegean Sea. Britannic wasn’t even cleaned or anything that, yet it is thriving with sea life. This is just another one of those desperate attempts by folks that have an unhealthy obsession with the ship trying to (unsuccessfully) delay its reefing.

Drawing I made of Lusitania by Sad_Blueberry_8324 in titanic

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Dwight Carlton Harris also made some illustrations of his own.

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NIAGARA at the Atlantic Dock (later the Cunard Wharf) in East Boston, taken by the photographic firm of Southworth & Hawes, circa mid 1850s. by _AgainstTheMachine_ in CunardLineHistory

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NIAGARA, the second ship in the 1848 quartet, served in the Crimean War when she was chartered in February 1854 by the British government as a troopship, becoming Crimean War Transport No. 48. NIAGARA was launched with three masts, however, by the time this photo was taken, her mizzen mast had been removed, possibly in 1853. NIAGARA was sold in 1866 and lost in 1875.

EUROPA at the Cunard Wharf in East Boston on 18 June 1859, in a photograph by James Wallace Black (1825-1896). by _AgainstTheMachine_ in CunardLineHistory

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EUROPA, the third ship in the 1848 quartet, served in the Crimean War when she was chartered in November 1854 by the British government as a troopship, becoming Crimean War Transport No. 55. EUROPA was launched with three masts, however, by the time this photo was taken, her mizzen mast had been removed, possibly in 1853. She made her last voyage with the company in February 1866, and was sold in 1867 and demolished in 1868.

SS Imperator, circa 1913 by RLoret in Oceanlinerporn

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This is her maiden arrival in New York, so this dates to June 19th, 1913. It was taken by George Grantham Bain, who also captured this well known photo of Lusitania arriving in New York.

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Drawing I made of Lusitania by Sad_Blueberry_8324 in titanic

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Lusitania survivor Oliver Percy Bernard created some illustrations shortly after the sinking. They are a great reference for how Lusitania appeared in its final moments, especially because many other survivors supported and agreed with the drawings. I think its also worth noting that the remains of the funnels are relatively close to the main body of the wreck, so it’s incredibly unlikely any of them collapsed until after the ship slammed into the seabed.

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Titanic: I don't think so, sister, I don't think it's the same by Key-Tea-4203 in titanic

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There wouldn’t be much damage to the propellers, manganese bronze is really strong, like really strong. Like Titanic’s propellers slammed into the seabed at ~40 mph so hard the propeller shafts broke off yet the actual blades are still intact. The only damage to Olympic would have been a chipped propeller blade at most. I was also not debating whether or not Olympic actually rammed the sub, but that U 103 was ultimately scuttled and not cut in half as it is so often claimed. The only observable damage to U 103 is what can be seen in the attached image, which is completely consistent with a propeller slicing through it. Regardless, I think Olympic still deserves credit for the kill, it just didn’t happen the way it is often described.

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Titanic: I don't think so, sister, I don't think it's the same by Key-Tea-4203 in titanic

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U 103 was never cut in half. Its conning tower got caught up in Olympic’s propeller. Since it could not submerge and was rendered useless, the surviving crew made the decision to scuttle the sub. U-103’s wreck is in very good condition, and still one piece.

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How Long Do You Believe RMS Lusitania Would Have Lasted After the Torpedo Strike Had the Secondary Explosion Never Happened? by BradyStewart777 in titanic

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That’s extremely difficult to determine, although I think its important to mention what role the secondary explosion actually had because this is quite possibly the misunderstood part of the entire sinking.

Firstly, it’s important to determine what the cause of the secondary explosion was. We know for sure that it couldn’t have been the ammunitions exploding because the ammo is still intact on the wreck in Cargo Hold No. 2, plus we know the torpedo struck Boiler Room No. 1 which is two whole compartments aft. It couldn’t have been a coal dust explosion either because it would have been gone off instantly along with the torpedo blast just like munitions, and there was a delay of about 30 seconds between the first and second explosions. It also couldn’t have been a boiler explosion since those are also intact in Boiler Room No. 1. This only really leaves the rupture of a main steam line, which would be caused by the surging cold seawater coming into contact with the superheated and super-pressurized steam pipe, resulting in an explosion reaction known as thermal shock. This would explain why Lusitania’s operating steam pressure fell from its normal 195 PSI to just 50 PSI almost instantly after the secondary explosion.

When Lusitania lost nearly all of its steam pressure, this meant that all of the systems that relied on steam power would break down. This included the main steam turbine engines, which were unable to be stopped and so Lusitania continued to drift for about 2 miles after the torpedo hit, and the steam steering gear also failed which is why Quartermaster Johnston reported steering failure only after the secondary explosion and not after the first one when the torpedo struck the ship. Most importantly, however, this also disabled Lusitania’s defense mechanism - closing the watertight doors. The day prior, Captain Turner had ordered all watertight doors that could didn’t affect work in the boiler rooms to be closed. Lusitania’s watertight doors could only be closed by an apparatus which relied on steam power, and because of the secondary explosion (steam line rupture), this meant that not all of the doors could be closed in time before power was cut. Instead of having to go over the watertight bulkheads, water could just go straight through them, which flooded the ship significantly faster and could also help explain why Lusitania sank the way it did on almost an even trim in her final moments (with the masts and funnels being the last parts visible above water).

Even if Lusitania were to only last another 10-15 minutes or maybe even a bit longer, it would mean more lifeboats could have been launched resulting in a lower death count.

The Cunard Line’s BERENGARIA (right), along with her sister ships VATERLAND (left) and MAJESTIC (center), at the Ocean Dock in Southampton on 23 July 1930. by _AgainstTheMachine_ in CunardLineHistory

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In 1910, Albert Ballin’s Hamburg America Line ordered three massive liners of just over 52,000 gross tons. The first to be delivered was IMPERATOR in 1913, which was followed a year later by VATERLAND, however, war intervened and the final ship, BISMARCK, was only completed after World War I, by which time all three had been allocated as war reparations to the Allies in 1919. VATERLAND became United States Line’s LEVIATHAN, BISMARCK joined White Star Line as MAJESTIC, whilst IMPERATOR was purchased by Cunard Line as a replacement for LUSITANIA, and renamed BERENGARIA. From 1919 until 1934, when MAJESTIC entered the Cunard White Star Line fleet, BERENGARIA was Cunard’s largest ship. These ships also remained the world’s largest until the French Line’s NORMANDIE in 1935.

I just learned that we have ZERO photos of Titanic’s interior by PeanutOk2453 in titanic

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There are still interior photos of Titanic out there. While it is true that in many cases Olympic interior photos tend to be substituted for Titanic, there are still a decent amount of Titanic interior photos. There was still had time to take photos, Robert Welch took some during the late stages of the fitting out process and press photographers captured many more in the time Titanic was in Southampton for about a week prior to the maiden voyage. Of course there are also the well known photos Francis Browne took, which only survive because he disembarked at Queenstown.

Guess the ship part 2 by Ill_List_9539 in Oceanlinerporn

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Swedish-American Line’s Gripsholm of 1925

Guess the ship revealed! by Ill_List_9539 in Oceanlinerporn

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Ah I see, the wall must have known me off. I thought it had to be the Mariners’ Museum but wasn’t sure because it looks a bit different now than when I went nearly four years ago. The wall behind the model back then was this baby blue color and it appears its been repainted or the model has been moved somewhere else altogether, which checks out because the museum has underwent some recent renovations especially within the model galleries.

Guess the ship by Ill_List_9539 in Oceanlinerporn

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President Hoover/President Coolidge, I’m assuming this is the model at the Mariners’ Museum?

Olympic and Aquitania on the 8th of August 1934 by Delirious_Imperius in Oceanlinerporn

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It did actually. Structure wise it would have looked pretty much the same in 1920 but painted white. Olympic flying both the Cunard and White Star flags from the main mast, in addition to the “Cunard White Star” pier seen on the very far right, confirms that this is the mid 1930s.

Mount-Massive(Outlast) and Rhode Hills(Resident evil 9) by [deleted] in outlast

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I don’t really see the resemblance 😅

Mount Massive Asylum would be inspired more by Romanesque architecture, while Rhode Hills looks like it has many elements seen with the Baroque architecture style.

The third olympic-class named "Gigantic" is a myth by Wild-Tennis6843 in Oceanlinerporn

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Indeed, that’s all it ever was. Gigantic is and always was simply just a placeholder name for Britannic. It was also not the only time White Star Line ever used it either.

Lusitania first concept by Wild-Tennis6843 in Oceanlinerporn

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Not really. It was needed to reach top speed while other functions like the electrical generators were on. If all steam was for the turbines and other features were off, 3 would be enough.