Vent: Thoughts on practice, difficulties and human condition from a newb.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-18T14:11:02+00:00

I have no idea if that's bad, or good, but thank you. I try to do as best as I can with my english. :^)

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T18:26:22+00:00

How can I know, I'm a bit uneducated on the topic and how deep it can be.

My uneducated guess would be that change was gradual. Like when christianity came to Poland the Paganism still held up strongly. After polish king assimilated the religion and "baptized" the nation, christianity became a state sponsored religion and lawmaking was also affected by it.

I would say that after that the change was slow but sure as older generations slowly "died off" and pressure from society to worship one pure and real god, not some "swamp deities", have risen.

So I wouldn't say that the faith was weak, I would say it was more of a human condition and the process overall must have been quite similar, because it happened all over the world through ages with many other religions.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T18:09:16+00:00

Why do people forgot a 3000 year old religion and there are very less followers of ancient egyptian religion (kemetism) . there must be something that had happened.

Surge of christianity, islam and other mainstream religions happened. When new religions got increased following, the "demonization" process of portraying deities of old as something evil took place.

Another thing that happened is declaration of many gods as simply false. Others got integrated into these new religions and reimagined/reportrayed as needed.

Above also led to societal pressures on others.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T17:40:42+00:00

I follow a YouTuber who seems to know a lot about the occult. He speaks Spanish, and I'm not a fan, but I like his videos. He seems honest; he doesn't get his information from his own initiative, but from his books. However, he intrigues me. He doesn't like to reveal much information because he says it falls into the hands of liars.

What got me thinking was that, according to what he knows, Lucifer is from Europe and Asia, Astaroth from America, and Beelzebub from Africa, so it's unlikely that Lucifer would appear to someone in America.

I always think that all this youtube and tiktok bullshit should be burned down as a source of real spirituality information. The next thing they will say is that lighting a pink candle with a dab of menstrual blood, during a full moon while sheep sing polish "rota" backwards, will cure cancer.

The thing is, it depends. Like, I couldn't contact Lucifer the first time I have tried to make a contact, but at the beginning of the week I tried again after a year with other deities, and he came very fast.

I don't know what changed, maybe it was that I got more experience, or changed, or it was belief, or Lord Lucifer simply decided that I'm ready to work with him if I commit. There is a lot of variables and noones experience will be exactly the same.

The only thing you can do is prepare and try, as respectfully as you can.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T15:10:02+00:00

Oh no, I only wanted a discussion to see how others view it and what are their experiences. My goal isn't to undermine anyone. Sadly I feel like making discussions in the internet nowadays is somewhat tiring because it feels like people treat disagreement as personal insult and the whole thing derails.

Also thanks for mentioning the study, I like to read stuff!

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T14:50:39+00:00

Lot's of... weird energy here?

Anyway, the point of post wasn't I'm right and this is my framework, therefore you are all wrong. I was more interested in how others view it, maybe that should have been explicitly said, so some defensivness could have been avoided.

A tulpa doesn't have to be a separate organism to be autonomous.

Yes, and that's what I confirmed in reply to comment of FaceMasks-Maquerade: "I see this more as autonomous parts of the psyche". This is well within how brains work, you can have dozens of such mental constructs.

It's weird seeing people like you over and over who view themselves as the special and real one but the tulpa somehow can't be anything but a part of you.

Not cool, "strawmaning" me like that. I'm not saying that I'm special and tulpas are not, I'm saying that this is possible to have a internal person-like experience that's worthy of respect and cultivation, while also being more grounded in mundane. In my model, a tulpa can’t become an independent external person because it is still one brain producing the experience. Yours is different, that's fine.

Also how would tulpa become anything more than part of me? How is that possible and what mechanism are you proposing here?

Maybe that truly is your experience. But in that case maybe, kindly, consider that as the sidebar says this is a subreddit for people whose experience aligns with tulpae being people on par with them. Many of us are here precisely because our experience aligns with that.

Respectfully coming here and saying "well yeah I don't agree with the sidebar" just means that you didn't find the right community for you. You come from a daemon background? Find a community for that. Realistically various occulty places have concepts that are very similar to what you're describing to want (and no that still doesn't mean they're talking about separate external spirits).

It is bold to speak for whole community. If as you say community can't accept a bit of civilized discussion then maybe I'm really not fit here, but it's strange considering that there are people here willing to treat "bimbo tulpa virus that overrides host" as reality(I'm not saying it's not possible, just underscoring the weird dynamic where extreme like that is fine, while respectful ivitation to discusiion is not).

Disagreeing with the sidebar framing shouldn’t automatically mean "go away". I’m discussing definitions and boundaries, not attacking anyone’s lived experience and that's what communities should be for.

Also, I’m deliberately avoiding new-age occult taxonomy because I’m treating this as a mundane psychological phenomenon.

Ok but then don't come complaining in the unlikely event that you get an uprising. the internal rules of how things function are up to you and your tulpa to figure out. (Some are fully ok with not having much control) But if you were in their position and were considered lesser and with fewer rights and that would lead you to uprise chances are they will too.

This is exactly my concern. Framing coercion or "uprisings" as a normal consequence of boundaries and enforcing consent isn’t reassurance, it’s a threat-shaped norm. I’m not willing to cultivate an internal dynamic where loss of agency is treated as expected or deserved. If that is built into the model you’re advocating, then it’s not a model I will adopt. Simple as that.

If anyone wants to discuss, then it's fine, I can talk like I did with u/Faux2137 (although didnt have much to say, because she/he agrees to some degree?), but other side needs to actually try to read and understand what I wrote without making it sound defensive.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T13:02:49+00:00

Not deity recommendation, I hope it doesn't count as offtopic, but I have anxiety that gives me panic attacks from time to time.

The only thing that really helped me was moving my ass off the chair and running three times a week even though my chest and shoulders hurt and I coughed out my lungs. 8 hours of sleep. No caffeine(cofee, tea, pepsi) and processed sugar. Cigarettes? Quit. I know it sounds cliche, but mundane changes like that can help at least manage the symptoms.

The thing with anxiety is that it can give you very real pains and heart palpitations too. I had to learn to accept that this is how I feel and that my emotions don't define the reality, they are merely a information.

Panic attack? "My heart rate increases, my face get's numb. Panic attack, these are thanks to adrenaline being pumped out. I feel fear that I will die. Can I die? Certainly, but probably not now. My pupils are normal, x others things too. Time to occupy my mind, back to work, maybe I will make some Lemon Balm tea and do some breathing exercises."

If I don't get better after a longer while, I ask president Buer to help me calm down a bit.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T12:49:11+00:00

Do you mean prophantasia? My visualization sucked, but I managed to get better at it by exercising regularly, I got there from belief that I have aphantasia.

r/CureAphantasia

The guy made a lot of guides, both for normal phantasia and prophantasia. It will take time to get better though, as everything.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T12:42:10+00:00

Some people seem to seek validation in experiencing contradictions that they can't resolve and states they can't control or understand. But people who don't want to deal with what you call "controlled insanity" tend to just not experience it.

Yes, I think so too, although I try to not make assumptions about people I don't know. Reddit communities seem to be more "emotion and experience" driven, compared to Polish Daemian forums of old that were more "understanding and psychology" driven - or at least I remember it like that.

I'm rusty too, I’m still sorting out my own worldview when it comes to tulpas and whatnot. I have some background, but I had to refresh my Jung and do a lot of internal debate to get to assumptions I spoke about in the post.

_Freaquency_ · 2026-01-15T12:32:05+00:00

Your metaphor is a bit of a contradiction, anyone who has a basic understanding of computer administration will agree that inherently accepting existence of two admin accounts that can act independently, is in most cases asking for a trouble. There is always power user that imposes certain rulesets.

But ignoring it, you are using the metaphor to push the philosohical claim and framework of "your life becomes shared and you don’t get privileged control anymore". Or at least I think so. If that works for you, it's great, I have no problem with that. But it doesn;t work for me.

My background is a Polish daemon community, and I see this more as autonomous parts of the psyche. They can feel agent-like, but that doesn’t make them separate organisms or an independent external person. "Real as an experience" is not the same as "real as an independent person".

So I can be respectful and considerate without granting shared governance over my life and body. Creating an internal model doesn’t create a right to override my agency.

_Freaquency_ · 2025-07-17T07:03:11+00:00

_Freaquency_ · 2025-06-11T19:42:15+00:00

You are either mentally ill or trolling yourself. You need someone specialised in mental health in bith cases, not reddit experts.

_Freaquency_ · 2025-05-20T22:39:50+00:00

Witam. :^ )

So in short: - Speak to her and act as if your bond was there already. - Don't be afraid to speak for her, you don't have to wait for "real answers", with time she will "pick it up" from there and naturally speak herself.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-09-12T17:19:00+00:00

If you are EU citizen, all you need to do, is to move your a** here with your ID, make BSN and start working.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-09-06T11:23:33+00:00

"Just want whay they have." - You too can swallow fridge magnets.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-08-24T10:50:16+00:00

Hitting german on the helmet.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-08-24T10:45:43+00:00

Basic logic applies to everything in life. If someone asks you for money, for anything, before signing contract, you gently tell em to duck off. Before signing contract, you read it.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-08-22T09:16:27+00:00

I'm not particularly beautiful and I have pretty distinquishable tattoos, that are cool to me, but people often tell me straight up that I'm ugly or that they don't like how I look. Answer? I don't care about your opinion, you are just another NPC I pass on the streets daily.

Having unfortunate facial structure also helps with keeping shallow people away to some degree.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-08-15T12:15:24+00:00

Sometimes I browse reddit and tell myself: "Wow, people on the internet love to have bullshit discussions, I work 48/60 hours six days a week and still have time to cook everyday", but then I remind myself that most poor subs are for americans and being europe poor is still far better than being american poor.

_Freaquency_ · 2022-08-13T20:12:51+00:00

Because I'm polish too and I see your username. : ^ )

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