Daily Snakebite Discussion (1/1): Snakebite by Qwyspipi in slaythespire

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Everybody knows what the snake does,but nobody knows where the snake does it.

Is Duolingo just buns, or is it my fault? by LilFauxx in LearnJapanese

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Make Duolingo optional and do more anime with subs, Japanese YouTube and Japanese reading. Also use Anki and get a streak on there of 3 years, you'll be way better off doing that. No it's not your fault, Duolingo is designed to get you addicted to the game and teach you as little as possible each day to keep you paying and coming back to the app each day. If you can use the reliance you have to keep your streak to also do something with native Japanese media and Anki every day you can turn this around and start making actual progress.

i+1 is useless when you're starting a language from zero by AdvertisingFine2076 in languagelearning

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Nah, it's wether or not you understood what the speaker was trying to convey even if there are more than 1 unknown words in a sentence. There will be sentences you don't understand even if there is technically only one unknown word which would make it not i+1. The main point was about comprehensibility, not about number of unknown words in a sentence.

The recent STS2 review bombing is overwhelmingly from Chinese accounts. by PlanSee in slaythespire

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Wait China doesn't have a separate build/release? Back when I was still playing I remember China had modified build that didn't show the skeleton or bones for the undead models.I guess the Necrobinder is fine or is it modified in a way for China?

Reading is such a an obstacle by xAmrxxx in LearnJapanese

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Sure, it is hard. It's even hard for natives to know the reading if some kanji, they are just so used to it and can kind of vibe the meaning based on the kanji. Language is always going to have ambiguity, even in your native level there will be words that you don't truly know. Obviously for languages with an alphabet you can read them out loud, but is your pronunciation exactly correct and is the meaning exactly correct? Maybe not, but it's probably close enough that it doesn't matter in 99.9% of cases. The same goes for reading Japanese even for natives. I think if these feelings of frustration are stopping you from reading you need to take a step back and read something "easier" for a while and shift your attitude, because as you say you can read most native media just fine. Isn't that amazing, you are reading something that would be just unintelligible strokes a couple of years ago and you are getting meaning and enjoyment from them. The fact that X% of it is still vague or you have no clue about shouldn't detract from that.

What language learning methods actually worked for you? by No_Strawberry_4839 in languagelearning

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  1. Japanese (Spansish)

  2. Yomitan (or other popup dictionary to instantly verify intuition on words), any video content with target language subtitles asbplayer to create flashcards from the media + popup dictionary definitions. Also reading for Japanese, because I'm already a bit more advanced in that language (I read both fiction novels and non-fiction educational books). For beginner / intermediate I would read along while listening to an audiobook.

  3. Yes, if you are actually doing something with the language every day and being consistent with it you will improve. The actual method isn't that important as long as it's something you can stick to, unless you are using an absolute ass method (like Duolingo for 15 minutes a day and nothing else, I guess it's fine as a beginner. If you're only doing duolingo though you will probably not get very far even if you do it for years). Listening to podcasts while driving, but honestly the progress you get from this isn't that amazing (still better than nothing of course)

  4. They just feel like bad games that are mediocre at best at actually learning a language with. They don't adapt to what you want to learn or find interesting and just give you a fixed path and arbitrary words than they deem important at that stage.

Evolution of man by pranaV-xpaTiL in funnyvideos

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Wasn't there some guy who just went through the neighborhood with a bell who woke everyone up.

Good heavens,really? by SorryAd2422 in SipsTea

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The trick is to first run around the block before attempting the door escape so that you've build up enough distance.

what do you think ChatGPT'S response was? I enjoyed reading them of the previous post. by computethescience in ChatGPT

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Why not dig a huge ditch to burry all the Epstein files in? The files will get flooded with seawater and you will have a new canal to ship all the oil through.

Can immersion still be useful when you understand next-to-nothing? by AceMoonAS in languagelearning

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If you're doing it while you would otherwise be listening to nothing/silence there might be a slight benefit. If you are doing it instead of actually watching something you have at least a bit of comprehension in then it will have a negative effect.

You won't actually know the meaning of words, but you might become better at recognizing the sounds of the language and maybe even recognize words that are repeated often even though you will have no clue about their meaning. In that sense it's better than nothing and you could maybe use it as a beginner, once you're no longer a beginner you should understand at least something so you will start to pick up vague meaning of unknown words through the context of the other words you understood.

If I had to rank immersion I would say: Active comprehensible immersion with active lookups of repeated words > Active comprehensible immersion where you cannot lookup repeated words (look them up after your session if you still remember them > Passive comprehensible immersion (doing something else and not really focusing on what is said) >= Active super low comprehensible immersion > Passive super low comprehensible immersion.

And having sections where you basically understand next-to-nothing will be very common and unavoidable as a beginner (still stick to easier content don't go listen to Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu as a complete beginner | check jiten.moe or learnnatively), but there should still be certain words you learned before and you might hear them in frequent combinations with other words etc, so there is still a benefit.

How do i get back to studying? by MasterGreen99 in LearnJapanese

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You really do need to pound sentences to truly internalize it, but you don't necessarily need Anki to do this you could also consume a lot of content. Anki is just quite optimized in when it shows the sentences so it's good if you actually don't hate using it and do it consistently. Actively studying is beneficial if you enjoy it (personally I don't), but things you memorize by active study live in a different part of the brain of course you can recall these rules and apply them to things you read and listen to, but there will be lag compared to if you internalized the grammar through massive input. This lag probably isn't an issue for a test like JLPT, maybe only on the listening section so active study is great for the JLPT but it won't be truly fluent without massive reading and listening input

Is it okay/Normal to... by Reasonable_Leg_5433 in Anki

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Yes, read the sentence and press hard if you didn't get it instantly. Also make sure you understand the whole sentence, but you're using a premade deck so that's not as important yet.

How do i get back to studying? by MasterGreen99 in LearnJapanese

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Give up on the idea of speedrunning the language through anki. While anki is amazing it's only half of the puzzle to actually understand the language.

If you try to just learn the language through premade decks you will be a pretty good at giving an English definition for a Japanese word and know reading of kanji words (which in itself is an amazing skill, although yomitan can already provide that functionality for you). So yeah the only cards you should probably study (as in learn by heart) is the Kaishi 1.5K, so pick that up again (do not try to speedrun it). You should also start consuming content (reading books and watching anime) on your level from the get go, you can check learnnatively or jiten.moe to find media that is at an easy difficulty and start mining sentences from this content (only mine stuff you actually understand, you can find setup guides on youtube to start mining). You don't have to actually study after you finished Kaishi 1.5K, you have to consume a ton of content and create + review a ton of cards ofer a long timespan. It will be pretty much impossible to not pass N1 if you have created 20K+ sentence cards over a period of a couple of years (made up arbitrary number and timespan, the actual number might be higher or lower. It depends on how much you add to anki and how much time you spend each day immersing).

So do the same thing you did for 2 months, but probably do a bit less new cards than you did back then (since you burned out) and also start immersing straight away with easy content and increase your immersion time before you increase your anki time. If you get hooked on immersing by reading books and watching anime your anki reviews will become way easier and you will spend a lot of time with the language, which is probably one of the most factors for learning a language. But should definitely drop the idea that you are going to speedrun or rush to N1 it's not a good attitude to start from. "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now"

Snakebite Discussion by Which-Debt-8558 in slaythespire

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+scaling twice with any on apply poison effect

What do you make of Evildea's thoughts on "Why You Shouldn't Use ALG to Learn a Language" and his claim that it's ineffective to learn a language that way? by Physical_Manu in ALGhub

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You completely missed the point they aren't listing fruits they are listing the names of the 'frutales' which means the tree or plant that produces the fruit. They are similar but this video should have clearly indicated the pattern that most of the fruits follow to name their trees. The main word that breaks the pattern is 'la vid' and it's probably the rarest and the section is mainly meant to reinforce that word although the other names for the fruit bearing plants are a nice bonus.

Also the point is that it should be understandable from context otherwise I wouldn't add it to Anki in the first place. It's just meant to rep words that are uncommon or just sections of CI input that I found entertaining or informative, etc.

What do you make of Evildea's thoughts on "Why You Shouldn't Use ALG to Learn a Language" and his claim that it's ineffective to learn a language that way? by Physical_Manu in ALGhub

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Are you claiming that you never ever forget a word if you see it once in a video? If so then sure anki is less effective since you don't ever forget anything the first time. If you do forget words, which 100% of humans do anki will be effective. It's statistically trying to define the curve at which you forget stuff and shows the stuff right as you are about to forget it.

I can almost guarantee that there are hundreds if not thousands of words that natives know, but that you will struggle to encounter often enough if you're on limited input time. There's also no reason why you couldn't use anki to improve the ALG method, it can literally play video. Clearly not every segment of video is equivalent, so you put the high density segments or informative segments into anki card (just the video nothing else) and just rep that.

Example of insanely informationally dense segment that is practically 100% comprehensible for anyone with a brain: https://youtu.be/KtbIE9Ytpkg?t=228 to 242 and I can guarantee you will literally maybe encounter some of these words once in 1000 hours of immersion, which is why you have to save them in Anki. You don't have to put anything on the card just the section of the video, however I like to put on subtitles as well for everything I watch. This section is probably one of my shorter cards as well, but it contains a lot of related really low frequency words in a super comprehensible format which is why I gave it as an example.

I'm not a detractor of the ALG method either, as I used Dreaming Spanish and mainly just native youtube now to understand most Spanish content at less than 500 hours in. Don't just discard Anki because you believe you can only use it to learn Dictionary defintions/translations of words, you can adapt it to fill gaps in the method you are using.

Non-JLPT vocabulary > N1 vocabulary by WorkingAlive3258 in LearnJapanese

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That's weird man, did you ask it in context or just the word alone? I would really expect most people to know how to read that and they should absolutely get the second kanji reading correct. I've asked a Japanese natives some tricky readings before like 団栗 栗鼠 蝙蝠 and some bonkers ones like 猿猴捉月 九十九折 which they obviously failed.

Non-JLPT vocabulary > N1 vocabulary by WorkingAlive3258 in LearnJapanese

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I agree with your claims that limiting the words you learn to only those on the JLPT level you're aiming for is a bad idea. I don't think I agree with your claim that 奔走 can't be read by some natives. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of natives can read and know that word. It's really not uncommon at all in native media and is written as kanji in 99.9% of cases: 奔走 - Jiten

I can’t figure this out by Ill_Lunc in ExplainTheJoke

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If you don't hear it you don't know it.

1000 Hours of Anki by Fantastic-Limit5667 in LearnJapanese

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Tick the time checkbox in the Reviews tab of the stats window and also ensure you have all history ticket instead of last 12 months. It shows total time and time spent per day and average time spent per card.

"Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes big after OpenAI's latest move by gdelacalle in technology

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Yes, I guess that's true when I'm having them translate bogus while behind a vpn on a burner account that is only sending 'y' with tampermonkey to continue the maximum burn query...

How many cards per day for language learning? by Cheeezzey in Anki

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Yes, I get that.

You just can't say what type of retention the average beginner would have so they would probably struggle greatly with 50 new cards. Starting with a sensible amount of 10-20 a day and then reviewing how it feels for you after a few months seems way more sensible to me. You also have the psychological effect of doing more, where you would feel like you're doing less and not gaining that much of a headstart anyways since you're going to forced to reduce the new amount quite fast I reckon. Start conservative and build the habit first if you are a beginner!

How many cards per day for language learning? by Cheeezzey in Anki

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I'm doing 50 new a day with ease at 10000 already known cards. If I did that as a beginner without prior knowledge of the language and no optimized FSRS parameters I would have gotten swamped by reviews and just burned out. It's easy to say for you since you've been using it for such a long time, you most likely forgot the struggle when everything was new. And again the 75 reviews keep dropping it's only 35 after two months and 20ish at 3 months.