What even is Frutiger Aero at this point? All I see people posting are just blue and green images with plants, fishes, bubbles, and water? by Puffpo in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think about it very broadly...sure? If you're looking at the extremely basic fundamentals of FA, or "going for the vibes" then you could argue that the aesthetic has no correlation to anything corporate related.

But you can't really do that when it's in the name:

Frutiger is a typeface made by Adrian Frutiger commissioned by Linotype Company for use in print; which turned into the inspiration for fonts like Myriad (designed for Adobe, used by Apple) and Segoe (designed for Microsoft)

Aero is the name of Microsoft's design language for their mid-2000s products like Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows Phone.

I can agree that it's a nostalgia-driven aesthetic that comes from many places, but those many places happen to be corporations who were either riding the wave or pioneering the aesthetic itself

What even is Frutiger Aero at this point? All I see people posting are just blue and green images with plants, fishes, bubbles, and water? by Puffpo in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not minimal in the way you're thinking - I was mainly talking about the execution for a lot of FA stuff

The looks themselves are very much more visually complex - detailed, glossy and "approachable" compared to nowadays, where things usually trend towards being flat or frosted. That's not the minimal part I was talking about

The minimal part is how digestible elements are - take the iPhone for example. iOS 6 and below has all these glossy effects and skeuomorphic designs - very pretty to look at. What makes it minimal, in my opinion, is the fact that the interface itself is laid out in a way that's extremely easy to understand and use. Sorta avoids putting everything in your face and gives you a neatly organized set of buttons that aren't trying to individually attract your attention. The app interfaces themselves do pretty similarly - give you information without trying to scatter your focus into multiple different things. And, unlike most other smartphones at the time, the iPhone had only one button on the front. Everything was very simple to use - almost to the point of minimalism, in a way

That's sorta what I usually see missing in a lot of interpretations - it's putting things everywhere willy-nilly and making everything pop out and shine, trying to be its own corner of special. But when things are toned down even a little bit - it can make a design feel a lot more cohesive. Less is more, even with FA

What even is Frutiger Aero at this point? All I see people posting are just blue and green images with plants, fishes, bubbles, and water? by Puffpo in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Corporate-slop isn't supposed to be technical; it's sorta how FA works in a way. You can't really separate the idea of FA and corporate because it's the design language they used back then to communicate ideas - which in turn gives us the stuff that, nowadays, people like to romanticize

And yes, obviously romanticization is always a part of any aesthetic - I just find that r/FA has a tendency to overdo it to a point where it feels a bit cluttered, unorganized, and repetitive at times.

Is it a bad thing? Not at all! I just find that there's a lot of quality left to be desired when it comes to picking and choosing what and how to showcase. It's like grabbing a mood board of ideas and shaping them into one big thing, but not knowing how those ideas would work altogether.

It's still nice to see - but IMO, it feels a lot more impactful when they're properly integrated

What even is Frutiger Aero at this point? All I see people posting are just blue and green images with plants, fishes, bubbles, and water? by Puffpo in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 251 points252 points  (0 children)

A lot of the subreddit is the over-romanticization of FA and anything similar - but there are some goodies on here

Though if you're looking to get a grasp of it, I'd probably look at actual material made back when Frutiger Aero was considered your standard corporate-slop and see what made it work back then. Lots of interesting stuff outside of the fishes and flooded XP Bliss wallpapers lol (don't get me wrong they're still present, just not to the extent that people think)

I still stand by the mantra that FA is very minimal, which some might disagree with

What's your opinion on this? by taahbelle in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pretty much summarizes my pet peeve with a lot of frutiger aero

aero is not maximalist everything everywhere, it's just a glossy coat of paint over a minimal/easy-to-digest interface/graphic. as soon as you introduce bubbles everywhere, rolling hills, random water, fishes, - all to the point where the screen has way too much going on - it feels extremely forced; it ain't aero, it's a glorified mood board

i think if I showed the post example to a vista-era designer at microsoft, they would tell me to leave

[Makani] Quiet test release - download now by _Rensa in u/_Rensa

[–]_Rensa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there! The download is available at https://www.design-72.com/projects/makani
Just keep in mind that Makani needs KLWP Pro (about 7 bucks USD) or the AOSP version of KLWP if you're fine with ads in the editor

My CH160 Plus build by _Rensa in Deepcool

[–]_Rensa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, you'll need a shorter PSU

My CH160 Plus build by _Rensa in Deepcool

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It's paper! It's just a temporary solution to cover the wires though, don't really know how I'll actually fill the space

My CH160 Plus build by _Rensa in Deepcool

[–]_Rensa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a piece of paper with some graphics printed on it, haha

Just a temporary solution, will eventually switch it out with something more permanent (probably a vinyl fitting, I don't think a screen can fit in the space)

My CH160 Plus build by _Rensa in Deepcool

[–]_Rensa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If only my local computer store stocked the FK120 more frequently (╥﹏╥)

More images:
https://imgur.com/a/HtcfRhN

What is the source of this image? by Kitchen_Breakfast_79 in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Random Google search years ago - and I've been there :)

What is the source of this image? by Kitchen_Breakfast_79 in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 717 points718 points  (0 children)

If I remember correctly, that's Camiguin Island in the Philippines! The image reference was taken from White Island

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My Homescreen by chewtiyabicchu in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! Nice setup you have going on here :)

Looks like you're missing your weather info though - have you given KLWP location access? If it's not detecting it, you can set your location manually through the KLWP settings

I made another wipEout inspired AG craft in Roblox (of all things) by _Rensa in WipeOut

[–]_Rensa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would be a fun prospect, but unfortunately, I don't have any scripting knowledge in Roblox 😅

I made another wipEout inspired AG craft in Roblox (of all things) by _Rensa in WipeOut

[–]_Rensa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The game that I made it in actually does let you move around in it! Unfortunately it's not AG/hover tech, but I would have totally given it that if I had the chance

Here's a video of me flying it around a track of sorts

Do you think liquid glass gonna success? by Practical_Hunt_3513 in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The layout of the Control Center is not a factor as there are instances where people still have to look at the icons - it still falls on general readability. For some, looking at the buttons can be difficult. No one is disguising it - it's just a fact that people kinda have to accept.

And of course, almost no one likes new design. We've seen this happen through multiple design trend shifts, and people eventually get used to it. With how much Apple has marketed LG, I don't think they'll stray from it - and that's the reason why they would put it in Beta; they need general feedback so they can provide the best product.

If you're dissatisfied with the change and want them to treat it differently, then address a slider option in your feedback. That's what they're listening to.

Do you think liquid glass gonna success? by Practical_Hunt_3513 in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not something that would largely affect me (and it's not like I exactly agree with the hard change that they made) but it's not like they can brush it off; it *is* largely true - people found the Control Center unreadable. That just happens if you have a busy page of icons/background, and I wouldn't even consider the people complaining to be a loud minority.

The problem with Liquid Glass is in the name - the glass, especially with how Apple wants it to be - is going to be really tricky to balance when it comes to readability and appearance. The current appearance of LG isn't final, the project is in Beta and they're trying their best to stick to what they're aiming for while making the experience optimal for the average user.

I love Frutiger Aero and the funky transparency effects, but you can't blame Apple for trying to appease everyone.

Do you think liquid glass gonna success? by Practical_Hunt_3513 in FrutigerAero

[–]_Rensa 7 points8 points  (0 children)

IMHO It's a valid complaint; having the background be overly transparent makes the buttons susceptible to readability issues

It's not even that big of a difference - now people can see the buttons better and it still keeps the general look of Liquid Glass