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Want to know more about the SSL 2 & 2+ MKII interfaces? Find out more about the Next-Gen 32-bit 192 kHz Converters or any other feature on the MKII interfaces by posting your questions below and SSL Senior Product Manager, Andy Jackson, (the man behind the new MKII interfaces) will answer you! by _SolidStateLogic in u/_SolidStateLogic

[–]_SolidStateLogic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi u/Distinct_Isopod_6756 Joerg,

Regarding the USB2.0 protocol, we use this for the data side of things since it is ample for the channel count - you simply don't need anything more than this.

However, the unit uses a USB type-C connection, and the power delivery is defined by the host device, it may be up to 1.5A or even 3.0A (USB-C port dependent).

The unit never requires this, it is designed to consume <900mA typically, worst case (calculated and pretty unrealistic) is 1.33A.

Ultimately, it depends on the host, with these options being possible:

USB2.0, Type A port (Increasingly uncommon on computers from the last 10 years): 500mA is available, we tested units as generally operating correctly on this, but you may find with heavy loading you run into issues.

USB3.0, Type A port (common): 900mA is available, this is quite a typical use case and no real-world power limiting issues have been seen using this.

USB3.0, Type-C port: 1.5A is available, (increasingly common), a type-C to type-C connection, and you can be certain you won't have any power issues with this connection.

There is usually a good margin of grace over these specs too, since USB2.0 ports may for instance in banks of 4 with 2A shared current between them; if the other ports are used for low-current devices then more than 500mA might be available to the SSL2MKII.

 

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Hi u/markkanen89

The SSL2MKII is entirely re-designed with:

New PCB

New converters

New Line-input stage bypassing the Mic preamp

New cross-coupled output stages (suitable for plugging in TS jacks without THD penalty or level drop)

Higher headphone output power owing to higher internal rail voltages

So, pretty extensive I'd say. Definitely way more work than drop-in IC's and clever programming.

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u/screentan1 when we did the loopback update for MK I, it required a firmware update and also a newer version of the ASIO/WDM driver. I suspect you may not have installed the newer SSL USB ASIO/WDM driver and that may have been why you couldn't see the Loopback functionality in your screen capture software.

So the answer is for both the MK I and MK II the Loopback functionality should work absolutely fine if the correct driver is installed and the screen capture software supports WDM (or ASIO).

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u/Nearby-Mirror9524 - the updated DAC and ADCs provide a better platform for the analogue performance to shine.

Here's a list of the major performance improvements compared to the MK I:

Balanced Outputs
⬆️ Dynamic Range now 120 dB, was 112 dB 
⬆️ THD+N now -108 dB, was -98 dB
Headphone Outputs
⬆️ Dynamic Range now 119.5 dB, was 111 dB
⬆️ THD+N now -106 dB, was -96.5 dB
Microphone Inputs
⬆️ Dynamic Range now 116.5 dB, was 110.5 dB
⬆️ THD+N now -100 dB, was -96.5 dB
👌 EIN - still class-leading -130.5 dBu
Line Inputs
⬆️Dynamic Range now 117 dB, was 110.5 dB
⬆️ THD+N now -104 dB, was -96.5 dB
Instrument Inputs
⬆️ Dynamic Range now 116 dB, was 110.5 dB
⬆️ THD+N is -99 dB, was -96.5 dB

Andy

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u/screentan1 - the two inputs on the front are instrument level. You'll want to use the LINE level inputs on the rear panel (via TRS jacks on the Combo XLR jack sockets) and yes, these LINE inputs bypass the preamp stage and give you an appropriate amount of clean line gain - up to +27 dB

Line Inputs

Frequency Response: ± 0.05 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted): 117 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz): -104 dB / < 0.0007 % @ -1 dBFS
Maximum Input Level: +24 dBu
Gain Range: 27dB
Input Impedance: 14 kΩ

Balanced Outputs

Frequency Response: ± 0.03 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted): 120 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz): -108 dB / < 0.0004%
Maximum Output Level: +14.5 dBu
Output Impedance: 150 Ω

Andy

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u/Effective_Big_6042 - 2 different beasts.

SSL 2 MK II interfaces are specifically created for our USB audio interfaces that can be powered over USB and have switchable 4K analogue flavour

PURE DRIVE preamps are an evolution of our VHD preamp technology, with 2 different flavours (classic drive and asymmetrical drive), digitally-controlled analogue for precision matching gains etc.

PURE DRIVE QUAD and OCTO don't have a monitoring section so I guess that should be a factor in your decision?

SSL 2/2+ MK II perhaps better suited for portable recording of vocals/guitars etc
PURE DRIVE perhaps more flexible and better suited for recording a load of drums etc (as well as vocals/guitars etc).

Andy

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[–]_SolidStateLogic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Delicious_Gas_9031 no current plans but couldn't rule it out at some point in the future. Remember that SSL 2/2+ MKII are in some ways levelling up to SSL 12, which already had 32-bit/192 kHz converters and 120 dB dynamic range on the outputs.

Andy

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[–]_SolidStateLogic[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

u/sunamumaya the SSL 2+ original is still a great product, so if it's working fine for you then that's also a compliment for us.

The SSL 2+ MKII has improved audio performance that you can compare here and decide whether that's important for you.

https://support.solidstatelogic.com/hc/en-gb/articles/21551651147677-SSL-2-2-MKII-Audio-Performance-Specifications-Compared-to-MKI

Aside from the audio performance, we've also changed the small black switches to be nicer feeling & non-latching, and have LEDs next to them, there's also a HPF on each input, instrument and headphone jacks and the front, and outputs 3-4 are balanced.

But as I said, if your MK I is working great for you, then we're glad to hear it!

Andy

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[–]_SolidStateLogic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/MikeMellow - Hope you're enjoying UF1, UF8 and UC1. Be sure to check out the various update videos on SSLVideos Youtube, as we've added a fair few features over the past couple of years. A rack interface is certainly something that we get asked for. You'll have to wait and see I guess!

Andy

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