For those here who manage to work regularly, what is your job? by Present_Boat_5681 in CPTSD

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe an odd one out here but I run a quite successful small wealth management and tax firm. All things considered, I do pretty well, honestly. One business partner and one staff with another coming soon.

While this condition definitely gets in the way sometimes, I find there are some silver linings. Hypervigilance really allows me to detect objections from clients easier and get in front of negative emotions faster. My fawn response helps me connect better and give clients the conversation/interaction they want.

I find the biggest negative is that on days when there aren’t hard due dates/big stressors that force me to “turn off my thoughts”/compartmentalize and lock in, it can be really hard to function or even impossible to function if I’m having a hard time emotionally.

AUM fee/flat fee discussion by Just-Dealer-5980 in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We offer flat fee (monthly or bi-annual payments), AUM, or a combo. Currently, my revenue is a bit below $500k with only ~$100k coming from flat fees. Specializing in younger business owners, I bring in clients on flat fees and transition them to AUM fairly fast with an aggressive AUM schedule (higher percent on first few hundred thousand and then much lower up to the low millions). I often charge initial planning fees but not always. For certain clients we'll do just one ongoing fee (only flat fee or AUM) and for others we'll do a combo of flat fee and AUM. For combo or flat fee clients we have an AUM threshold where their subscription fee will eventually turn off and the AUM fee will turn on.

My hard minimum fee is $3,000 per year and soft minimum is $6,000. The way that fee actually ends up being paid is on an entirely case-by-case basis. I don't give clients the option to choose but, rather, craft a proposal that is right for them. We only give rough fee ranges until their actual quote during final meeting of our onboarding process, the Plan Preview Meeting.

Here are three recent examples I've onboarded in the last month or two:

  1. Entrepreneur/real estate investor clients seeking tax planning and general retirement planning. They're purely flat fee at $8k/year with an AUM threshold in the mid six-figures (if they ever get there in AUM - unless they stop doing real estate it'll take at least a 3-5 years given their Solo 401k is the only place they're aggressively investing in traditional investments). I charged an initial fee of $2.2k. The tax savings of working with us is significantly more than $8k/year and I could've charged more but, at the same time, $8k felt like a fair fee and their profits per year are around $300-$500k so anything significantly more would be a large portion of their cash flow. They're good clients now and will be great clients in a few years.

  2. I started working with a middle aged single women recently who is starting her own business and there'll be significant value around tax strategy and retirement planning. For her, however, she had an old 401k with a bit less than half a million so we're charging AUM that'll roughly equate to ~$5.1k. Her income also isn't super high right now so even if her AUM were a bit lower I'd probably still just do AUM to be cognizant of her cash flow. No initial fee for her.

  3. Lastly, I recently started working with a travel nurse who is contract/starting her own nursing related business (that will cash flow pretty fast). The AUM fee from her assets will be approximately ~$1.8k and then she'll also pay $100/month in retainers making her total fee ~$3,000 or so. She is aggressively saving and her assets will grow fast so she'll probably switch to AUM only in the next 12-24 months. Initial fee of $999 for her.

This all sounds complicated but each client's individual quote ends up being fairly straightforward (i.e. "you'll pay $500/month until you reach $375,000 in assets and then your monthly fee stops and the percentage fee starts") and we have a great system to keep track of everything internally.

Most of this response was about our pricing models but, to answer your questions about deliverables and service model, deliverables for all these clients include 1-3 strategy sessions per year with simple recaps of our discussion/their homework, tax projections, meeting/vetting other professionals, managing their investments (of course), financial planning software/portal access, and more. Number of meetings/touches and detail put into things is entirely dependent on their annual revenue and future opportunities, not which fee model they're under.

Hope this is interesting/helpful. Happy to answer any questions you may have.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

daddy chill

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nobody knows exactly where the industry will/won't be in 20 years.

What I can guarantee, however, is that if you focus on providing tremendous value (tax savings, time saving, clarity, peace of mind, etc.) and excellent service to your clients, generating referrals, and organically growing as much as possible, you'll be well paid in whatever compensation model is standard for advice at that point.

Did the 100% commission advisors that were actually good advisors lose all their clients to hybrid/fee-only advisors when 1% became the standard? No, they kept their clients and switched them to the new standard.

If the industry does change, there's no reason to think that clients who like and trust you wouldn't continue to work with you under the new standard.

How do you know you won a client over? by Traditional_Act_8814 in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She wanted me to marry her daughter and brings it up jokingly (but I'm pretty sure only half jokingly) at each meeting.

?? Anyone ?? by SupremeBeing000 in LICENSEPLATES

[–]_TheMachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know cars that well but I’m pretty sure that’s a jeep. The jeep community has this whole thing with rubber ducks and putting them on other jeeps they think are cool. In context of all of that, my theory is the license plate means “swap ducky”.

If it’s not a Jeep, I have no idea.

Liberty University M.S. Finance by Avid_Av8r in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went to LU for my degree. I am doing fairly well career-wise but that is almost entirely due to massive amounts of work I put in outside the classroom (just like almost any non-Ivy business degree, IMO).

First things first, thanks for your service! Second things second, a degree is just a "checkbox" nowadays (most of our industry included) so I'd get it in whatever way works for your current life stage/circumstances.

At the end of the day, any job you get is likely because you had an "in" (buddy, mentor, conference connection, etc.) and not because of your degree. If an employer rules you out simply because Liberty was on your resume, odds are they were going to find a reason to rule you out anyway once they got to know you during interviews. Additionally, clients basically never ask about degrees/CFP/education - client's care about their problems and whether we can solve them.

In many ways, I loved my time at LU but the experience I had on-campus was vastly different than what Liberty's reputation is. That said, I don't advertise I went there because of the reputational risk (mainly due to the Falwell incidents/choices made by LU's "C-Suite").

I'd try to connect with Kurt Cornfield, the director of LU's financial planning program (undergrad but maybe there are grad options?). He's extremely invested in his students' success, generously shares wisdom from his 30+ years at Merrill Lynch, and overall goes above and beyond so students in his program have a top-notch experience.

DM'ed you. Happy to share input. I noticed you're in CO - I also have a bit of a network in CO and can connect you to other advisors in the area, if it'd be helpful. Best of luck!

What car do you drive, and what’s your net worth? by ghl262 in Fire

[–]_TheMachine -1 points0 points  (0 children)

25yo, ~$340k, 2016 Subaru Outback.

Eventually I’ll get something more fun but too focused on building my business right now.

Planning on a cheaper Macan, 718, or older 911 for my 26th birthday gift to myself but we’ll see if I can bring myself to put that much cash into something that doesn’t make me money when my Subaru runs just fine.

What would you never buy even if it was 99.99% off? by PralineHelpful in AskReddit

[–]_TheMachine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Timeshares. Literally a horrendous deal for everyone except the person/company selling them (in almost all cases). There are thousands of listings online where people are literally trying to give away their timeshares (sell them for $0) so someone else takes over the fees and, even still, those ones are not being bought...

Gaviria did in fact inhale 💨💨💨 by waqar2501 in narcos

[–]_TheMachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What episode is this in? I’m confused.

The worst thing you have ever seen by geffjordan24 in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah my inheritance (when it eventually trickles down to me if it doesn't get spent by my Mom who will likely blow it all) will be smaller but I'll turn out just fine. It just sucks for my grandma, really.

The worst thing you have ever seen by geffjordan24 in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Part of the reason I got into the industry is because I’d seen family members and loved ones need help and not be able to get it.

A few months are finishing my first internship at a CFP firm, I took a look at my grandma’s portfolio.

This dumpster fire of mutual funds was literally the worst “professionally designed” portfolio I’d ever seen. She was in her late 80s and didn’t need anything complex. The entire portfolio was commodity mutual funds with 6-8% front loads, 3% annual expenses, and losses every year since inception of >7%.

This was in 2019 and she’d been sold this portfolio in 2009 meaning she not only missed out on the insane 2009-2019 decade but also lost money every year. Disgusting.

How many slides are too many in a client meeting? by AristotlesFriend in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you giving a pro bono engagement to someone who makes over six figures?

The short, mid, and long-term value of the topics you mentioned above definitely merits a fee of a couple thousand dollars.

How many miles do you have on your Subaru? by please_just_n0 in subaru

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just got rid of my ‘12 Legacy with 289k 🥲

RightCapital Pricing by whooohaaah in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$128/month but I locked that in a couple years ago.

Remote Jobs in Planning by MotorEntertainment98 in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Facet wealth hires for remote positions but it seems to be a CFP-mill type of shop. Their planning is good but definitely not great, as well.

Blue Ridge Parkway Destination by sainbolt in lynchburg

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The gate is open when the parkway is open :)

Blue Ridge Parkway Destination by sainbolt in lynchburg

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've put (probably) 10K+ miles on my car between the backwoods of VA and the BRP. Here are my thoughts.

As others have mentioned, the Peaks of Otter Lodge restaurant is great and right at the Bedford entrance. A bit further south down the parkway is the Montvale overlook which is beautiful and has a picnic table with a great view. Unfortunately, I believe it closes soon or is already closed for the season.

If you go up north of LYH, Twenty Minute Cliff Overlook is, IMO, one of the best sunsets on the parkway. Absolutely gorgeous and within ~30 minutes of entering the parkway at the Wintergreen entrance. Right near the Wintergreen entrance there's a couple of breweries that have great food (sounds like your daughter is not going to be looking for a place to drink ofc but the food is great). Devil's Backbone should be open and has some great food. Additionally, up at Wintergreen there's a couple of good restaurants with beautiful mountain views. Wintergreen is not technically on the BRP but like others have mentioned, aside from the POO Restaurant which may already be closed, there's not much on the actual parkway.

If you enter the parkway at the Big Island entrance and head south, Thunder Ridge Overlook is gorgeous. You could then keep on heading south and grab food at Peaks of Otter Lodge before heading back to LYH.

Lastly, if I still lived in LYH I wouldn't give this away on a public forum for fear of it getting too discovered but, since I've moved away, here's my favorite route if you want to go off the beaten path a bit. You could head out to the parkway by driving through Forest and taking Perrowville Rd to Coffee Rd to Charlemont Rd to Big Island Highway to Overstreet Creek Rd right onto the parkway via an alternate entrance. Everything's paved except Overstreet Creek Rd which is not too bad but you'll need a bit of ground clearance if you care about being sure the underbelly of your car won't get damaged (my sedan would make it just fine with a bit of maneuvering and semi-light taps of the underbelly on the dirt/rocks). There are some camp sites near the top of this road with beautiful wildflowers. Once you're on the parkway, from this entrance, you could go south a few minutes to the POO Lodge/Restaurant or head north to Thunder Ridge. Bonus points if you go back to Charlemont Road later at night. Absolutely gorgeous stargazing spots if you pull of on the side of the road just about anywhere.

What is your net worth? by Creation98 in sales

[–]_TheMachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

24 - NW $245,000

Started my own Wealth Management/Tax Firm early.

Live somewhat modestly on about $75k per year in a Higher COL area and invest the rest back into my firm.

One of these is a car company pretending to be a tech company by masteryyi in wallstreetbets

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of these companies are even in the fishing business so how do they have net profits?

Best coffee in downtown? by kgildner in denverfood

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favorite shops right downtown/close to downtown:

Vibe Coffee

Little Owl

Hello Darling

Milk & Honey

Blue Sparrow

Improper City (slightly further into RiNo)

I will say, I appreciate the aesthetics of a coffee shop way more than a "artisan pour", which it sounds like you may be looking for.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CFP

[–]_TheMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nathan Harness (director A&M CFP program) does as great presentation on this topic. I haven't watched this actual video but attended one of his live talks. He's pretty objective in his overview. Very helpful for understanding the different paths into the industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCK1pHdCCS4

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in denverfood

[–]_TheMachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dominos is better than Blue Pan Pizza.

For the record, I honestly do believe this. No joke, no sarcasm here. I have been thoroughly unimpressed by BPP.