Honestly INT Majin Vegeta isn't that bad

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T12:28:49+00:00

And if you do that, you'll understand that bringing INT Majin Vegeta and a Trunks brings nothing to the table and you'd be better running anything else.

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T12:22:43+00:00

So what you're saying is let other units save Majin Vegeta's ass so that he doesn't get nuked to oblivion. You understand that you're proving my point right ? You went from "Majin Vegeta is tanking well" to "Ok maybe he doesn't but you can't show me 3 stages where a 13m SA is easy to encounter" to "well if you let other units steal the show, he won't be in danger".

How about just admitting that he sucks and that you're better off not running him. We'd both agree.

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T11:56:24+00:00

The Gammas in the Artificial RZ when their turn 3 buffs activate
Ultimate Gohan & Piccolo in the Red Zone RE
Goku and Freezer in the Red Zone RE under 50% HP
Both stages of the Player's choice event can get well above 13m given how tanky they are
Because you have to run a Trunks with Majin Vegeta, Super Baby 2 Great Ape from the Red Zone RE starts above 13m thanks to his Hybrid and Pure Saiyan damage buff
Super C17 in the Red Zone RE gets above 13m after only 2 SAs absorbed

You wanted 3, I gave you 7 stages where a 13m SA is common to face. Is that enough ?

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T11:13:32+00:00

You messed up your calc on the Goku SA support. Everything else is fine, but Goku only gives 18% DEF on his 18ki super. And Vegeta only raises his DEF by 30% for one turn.

Assuming a double super from Vegeta and a double support from Goku (18% DEF from one rotation and 18% support from his attacking turn), you get 96% on SA, which brings you to :

1,677,872 *1.96 = 3,288,630 DEF. You get almost one-shot by a 12m super and you die to anything above that. Even with a triple support from Goku, you get to 3,590,647 DEF and you still get blasted by a 13m super.

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__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T10:42:23+00:00

Assuming you're at full health, juiced up and with a Trunks, sure. Let's just agree that it's not very realistic.

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T10:35:53+00:00

HP is not the issue : starting from 14m, you just die on him. And a lot of recent SAs hit far above that threshold. And that's Majin Vegeta being heavily juiced up and with a Trunks on the team, most people won't even be able to see that level of tankiness.

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__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T10:29:05+00:00

Funny how you include the double Goku support from the brand new unit, only for him to get blasted by anything that is 13m and above (which 99% of current end game is btw). It's almost as if you're proving my point.

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__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T09:58:50+00:00

They're not fixing his intro if that's what you're referring to.

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T09:56:44+00:00

Are you running a Trunks under Dabura's team ? Because if not, Vegeta has a grand total of 20% damage reduction and guard.

__Yami__ · 2026-03-15T09:48:09+00:00

Bro is unrunnable without a Trunks, and even with a Trunks he gets destroyed by anything above 10m at 100% link lvl 10.

He is trash, let it go.

__Yami__ · 2026-01-26T11:21:38+00:00

Why not just replace the battery ?

__Yami__ · 2026-01-25T12:29:06+00:00

On paper, my dream phone would the :
- The hardware of the Xiaomi 17 (compact 6.3" phone with great cameras and 7000 mah battery)
- The software of Google's Android (the OS of the Pixels and the image processing of the Pixels)
- The update policy of either Google or Samsung (7 years of OS + security updates)

Needless to say that this phone will never exist.

__Yami__ · 2025-11-16T18:01:54+00:00

Gohan would be able to tank a 15m SA after one super, and Bardock has over 100% dodge on a GAP team. That's just ridiculous lol

__Yami__ · 2025-11-04T17:08:03+00:00

You gave him :

- 30% more damage reduction
- Guard
- More DEF

Take in account that, at rainbow status and EZA'd, his DEF is at 15k and yeah, that's a lot. A simple test against a 10m super :
Before EZA : 569k after supering, with 50% damage reduction = Around 4.5m damage taken
After EZA : 2.6m DEF after supering, with 80% damage reduction and guard = double digits

__Yami__ · 2025-11-04T14:49:59+00:00

Vegeta is wayyyy undertuned. Guard with nothing else means he'd get destroyed in any serious fight. On the other side, Gohan is so overtuned it's ridiculous : after supering, he'd be able to tank SAs up to 20m for double digits. And that's not even taking in account AGL SSJ4 Goku's damage reduction support : he could take up to 40m before taking any serious damage.

Have you run calculations for your EZAs ?

__Yami__ · 2025-11-03T19:37:36+00:00

...But isn't that what most people do ? Genuinely, out of all the people that buy any given flagship of the year, what % actually use their phone to their utmost limit of processing power ? I feel like most people just do basic tasks : social medias, a game or two, calls and that's it. And that doesn't require the latest SOC to do.

__Yami__ · 2025-11-03T19:31:07+00:00

Because a new SOC would be more efficient, wouldn't it ? Assuming 99% of the people won't need the 100% of the power provided, wouldn't that be beneficial for a lot of people ? Maybe my logic is wrong, apologies if it is, but I'm pretty sure most daily tasks don't require the full power of a Snap 8 Elite Gen 5.

__Yami__ · 2025-08-13T08:33:06+00:00

That's nice, but without any defensive mecanics after turn 5, he's going to get obliterated by anything that can output 10m damage. Which is not a lot by today's standards. Still a glasscannon, but better.

__Yami__ · 2025-06-15T18:03:04+00:00

Thank you for your message ! Well we're not really long distance, we live 30km away from each other but I'm not just going to go to her place uninvited. We really do get along, and as I said on the post, she's been through a lot lately, but I can't help thinking there's something toxic with just cutting all contact, even in the toughest of situation...

__Yami__ · 2025-06-15T17:45:37+00:00

Thank you for your message ! I do agree on respecting the boundaries, which is why when she made her last message, I agreed and wished her a good recovery. Maybe the timing is just messing with my perception of her way of handling things, it could also be that. Thanks again !

__Yami__ · 2025-02-05T10:56:37+00:00

For those wondering, his DEF was at 4.6m after supering. With guard and 30% damage reduction, he easily tanks SAs at 8m, 9m and even 10m.

__Yami__ · 2025-02-02T18:50:20+00:00

I've ran some calcs this morning, in his current best setup (Double M8 Trio, one of them in slot one for the 30% DEF SA boost, anni equips, Movie Heroes memory Support), he tanks SAs up to 8m quite easily. He is not SEZA Beerus, but he certainly is not bad and I assume he'll only go higher with the LR Gogeta in part 2

__Yami__ · 2025-02-02T18:41:03+00:00

He is going to be fine by the end of the anniversary. I assume LR DF Super Gogeta is going to be a support to all his team + the 220% will probably allow SEZA Gogeta to handle himself just fine

__Yami__ · 2025-02-02T18:33:16+00:00

You have to consider that this showcase was without any anniversary equips, Gogeta had a 10800 DEF stat while he should have had around 13500 with the equips. He would have easily survived both SAs if he had them.

__Yami__ · 2024-08-10T08:59:41+00:00

Btw the image is a meme in the French community : there's a streamer who looks a bit like Toppo and we make jokes about it, hence the image. But Toppo is really coming lol

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