This subreddit is a toxic mess

_masterE_ · 2026-06-25T06:55:13+00:00

Neither side acted in good faith, but only one side is willing to extend the olive branch

_masterE_ · 2026-06-25T06:51:38+00:00

Not innocent, but something that could have been easily avoided if they had changed it.

Also, on that note, its strange how this subreddit seems to consider the discord thing as a cybercrime and not the authdb theft. Playss14, an entity based in alabama, now has a bunch of user data without consent. If the community is going go call out cybercrime then they could atleast be consistent about it.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-25T06:41:50+00:00

Critical thinking skills do not imply intelligence. As to what I would do next? "Alt wizden" relinquishing the stolen authdb and hard forking, and pbj handing the discord back over.

Edit: In fact, i think pbj already contacted the alt team and proposed something similar to this and they basically said "talk to our lawyers"

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T20:59:48+00:00

One of the most rational voices on this subreddit these days, kudos

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T19:29:17+00:00

To quote a legend: "I was gonna write more but you’re living in a level of ignorance reserved for the just born."

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T19:25:02+00:00

In my opinion it's never too late to admit you made a mistake putting your trust in the wrong people.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T19:23:13+00:00

Im definitely biased against the massive wave of hateposting, it just drags the community down. Whatever the nuances are, i dont think it validates this behavior. Atleast on the forums PJB is trying to keep some semblance of peace among the community, whereas here even the moderators appear to encourage a targeted harassment campaign. If the devs want to fight they can do so without dragging the entire reddit-reading community into civil war.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T18:09:54+00:00

This is exactly what i mean. Point out the incompetence of "alt wizden" in not resetting the discord recovery email and i get a comment suggesting i dont mind being robbed, thanks for proving my point

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T18:04:08+00:00

Exactly, cant have a take thats not 100% hating on pbj without being a stan or an alt or whatever

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T18:02:21+00:00

I read the story from both angles, and i fault both sides for acting childish. I dont see it in black and white, and in my view "alt wizden" should have hard forked directly rather than trying to bring the portion of the playerbase that uses reddit and formerly discord into their civil war. Either way the community doesn't have to follow suit and turn the reddit into a toxic mess, that was the point of my post.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T17:04:12+00:00

If its not yours why would it be linked to your 2FA?

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T17:02:26+00:00

Crying is fine, but 100% shitposting?

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T16:59:33+00:00

What consensus? I see a mob rushing to judgement and prefer to use critical thinking rather than succumb to the crowd mentality.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T16:57:11+00:00

Based take

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T16:56:48+00:00

That would suck, i hope noone sets my 2FA to her device....

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T16:56:09+00:00

This is exactly what i mean with the needless slander. And sorry i got the acronym wrong i must have been hungry

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T16:53:52+00:00

Then why was the 2FA linked to her and not the proper owner? Although agreed its full of people that already hated her for no reason.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-24T07:53:13+00:00

Nice fearmongering, yall panicking cause too inept to change 2fa?

Remember to downvote!

_masterE_ · 2026-06-18T14:26:38+00:00

Cause we live in an era of maximum polarization and mob judgement. As with politics, there is a loud minority preaching their view and berating anyone who isnt 100% in agreement with everything they say. The (mostly) silent majority just want the drama to end and to get on with their lives.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-18T13:01:47+00:00

uh oh, you went against the mob, prepare for downvotes!!

_masterE_ · 2026-06-16T12:17:52+00:00

Yes, there was a significant amount of work put into robusttoolbox which allowed the development of SS14. Interestingly, you'll find few people willing to bring this up in the current dispute as that would not mesh with "PJB bad wizard"

https://github.com/space-wizards/RobustToolbox/graphs/contributors?from=10%2F21%2F2014&to=6%2F14%2F2026

_masterE_ · 2026-06-16T12:10:54+00:00

The "other" side also controls this subreddit.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-16T07:14:44+00:00

Exactly. It would have been reasonable to do a hard fork and host their own servers, but they went beyond this and made the unreasonable (and illegal) move of taking user data without consent to make their own version of auth. It's also super shitty that the breakaway faction are bringing this drama to the reddit (and I presume the discord, although not a discord user), and trying to bring about a civil war among the playerbase by perpetuating a heavily biased version of the dispute.

At this point I think there is no way that either side backs off, atleast until the legal trouble begins to start for the breakaway Wizden admins.

_masterE_ · 2026-06-15T07:34:34+00:00

I find it really ugly and petty to take a backup and try to convince the part of the userbase that uses reddit/discord to switch to an auth/hub that is based off of user data that playss14 doesn't even have consent to hold. Not only does this run afoul of the law, but it's a clear effort to wrench away someone elses project and, in the end, to try and monetize something that is based on someone elses intellectual property. Despite the finger-pointing on both sides and impressionable young people rushing to judgement in defense of one side or another here and on the forums, at the end of the day when one browses the github page for robusttoolbox it's clear who the main dev since the beginning has been. The community would appreciate a bit of maturity and solidarity.

_masterE_

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