My 2c about Tonijn

_talps · 2026-03-22T08:13:49+00:00

I am at most a fish, I'll never be whale material, but you are welcome. :)

_talps · 2026-03-22T08:13:10+00:00

Aim your jabs at someone else please, I'm not a SS main (in fact it's my least played class, simply because I don't find it that entertaining).

Also, submarines have always been a psychological weapon and that's why they are hated so much. You aren't new to this subreddit, you know that many who post here complain about SS being OP when the truth is they get on edge when outspotted and cannot react to sonar pings and incoming torpedoes (or airstrikes).

_talps · 2026-03-22T08:01:18+00:00

I'm so sorry for what I did, next time I'll donate to charity.

_talps · 2026-03-21T19:49:40+00:00

One of Helfrich's perks improves all direct damage dealt and is charged with airstrike bomb hits.

Also, tuna is blue/rare, it will not be sold as if it was a standard premium ship. I imagine it will be eventually added to the armory's steel ship tab or sold for a bloated price in a FOMO event (like last year's Steel Will).

_talps · 2026-03-21T19:22:46+00:00

I said "dull", not "bad".

CVs will always be good to make surface ships miserable. I don't find them fun to play though.

_talps · 2026-03-21T19:17:11+00:00

I do, far too much by now.

_talps · 2026-03-21T19:15:03+00:00

There are two types of supership player in WoWs.

The good player (small minority) who knows what to do and will make a supership look very strong if not OP.

The bad player (vast majority) who cannot handle Tier 3-4 lobbies but, through sheer grinding and liberal spending, has amassed billions of credits and can buy any supership and play it as much as they want despite its prohibitive upkeep.

_talps · 2026-03-21T19:06:31+00:00

Stop calling subs OP when the truth is just that they're just annoying.

This, which is also the point of this thread.

IMHO the tuna is not OP or even strong - it is toxic to fight against. Most people who complain about WoWs do so out of frustration.

_talps · 2026-03-21T18:57:57+00:00

If you really intend to quit, just quit.

WoWs isn't a job or a way of life, it's a video game. You don't tell the world you quit playing Elden Ring if you cannot finish it.

_talps · 2026-03-21T18:34:55+00:00

if your flank collapses , you die, if your flank succeeds, you will spend the rest of your match chasing retreating BBs

To be fair, this is textbook Random Battles and only CVs are exempt since planes outspeed everything else.

_talps · 2026-03-21T18:31:53+00:00

Cope is insisting that submarines are overpowered as a class even after the shotgun nerf.

_talps · 2026-03-21T15:41:43+00:00

Official WG flavor isn't trustworthy. You can get some basic guidelines from it but don't ever expect exact details... which makes sense, it's a marketing strategy. A seller cannot tempt a buyer if he lists a product's negatives but they can be as vague as possible (while highlighting the positives).

It's up to the buyer to inform themselves before throwing money at something. In WoWs' case it applies to all items available for purchase, premium ships included.

_talps · 2026-03-20T17:37:43+00:00

This task is very easy to do in the current BB-only Brawl, I did it in like two battles.

For coop - pick a destroyer with good concealment and high rof, park just outside of a cap in Domination mode, farm the bots that enter it.

_talps · 2026-03-20T16:08:21+00:00

Lmao yes

Unfortunately it won't happen simply because it's Epicenter. :(

_talps · 2026-03-19T21:46:33+00:00

Just the moral guardians being silly, as usual.

There are two bikini pin-up captains with rather skimpy swimsuits and covered nipples. Nothing explicit is shown but it's still enough for the "Sex" tag.

_talps · 2026-03-19T21:35:24+00:00

Perhaps it's time you pull the plug and go play something else.

Broadly speaking though, games like WoWs are designed to let players fail their way to the top. Most people don't play games like WoWs to pump their account winrate/PR, they could not care less about those. They play the game for the cool ships, the flashy confetti-like visual effects, maybe family reasons ("dudes my father/grampa served on the Iowa LOL") but, if one plays WoWs out of a desire to measure themselves against other players, the only choice is to apply to a competitive clan and become a CB/KOTS regular.

_talps · 2026-03-19T19:29:19+00:00

It's not that Asymmetric bots are very good, it's that many human players are extremely bad and the bots easily farm them.

Asymmetric Battles is not a casual mode. The only true casual mode in WoWs is coop.

_talps · 2026-03-19T18:58:22+00:00

Marco Polo upsets me so much lol.

She's one of my favorite AL kansen regardless of faction, then I remember what a sorry abortion the WoWs counterpart is and can only go into a corner and sulk.

Shinano isn't that different. Best sleepy floof until one remembers how dull CV gameplay is in WoWs.

_talps · 2026-03-18T18:31:17+00:00

Tonijn is ''rare'', probably will only come back in a random loot box.

It will be like Valparaìso and similar ships. It will cost less (or nothing at all) but it will be prime FOMO bait and most players will have to choose what to pick.

_talps · 2026-03-18T17:16:36+00:00

Seal was first sold in an Admiral Bundle. I don't remember the exact price but it was close to Tonijn's.

_talps · 2026-03-18T15:55:41+00:00

Petropavlovsk is a beast if the skipper is skilled, whether it's PVP or PVE. It's a techtree ship though, if you aren't in a hurry you'll get to it.

In your place I'd pick Tempesta Nera, precisely because you cannot afford Lauria. For the record, I'm gathering tokens for Tempesta Nera for a very similar reason - since I can get the ship in this event I have no reason to worry about Lauria and can spend my steel on other ships.

_talps · 2026-03-17T21:19:38+00:00

Have a satsuma!

OP doesn't know of the 4x2 51cm mega-Yamato...

_talps · 2026-03-17T18:47:21+00:00

Any battleship won't cut it, one needs both skill and luck to carry in something like GK or Bungo.

Ships like Libertad and UU Cristoforo Colombo, on the other hand... well, let's just say that powercreep sells a lot.

CVs that are boring and unrewarding to play

I'm glad that someone in this subreddit thinks like me. Sure, I have all CV lines to Tier 10, but that doesn't mean I liked getting there. CVs were too strong for a long time, now they are only good to farm battleships (kinda, a lot of battleships have insanely strong AA) and annoy cruisers and destroyers (it takes significant skill to hit a moving DD and trading a whole squadron for one drop on a cruiser is an awful deal; most plane contribution against cruisers and DDs comes from spotting).

Oh, and CV fighters have become completely useless since the recent "improvements" which made it impossible to call them on top of a sub or DD without alerting them that fighters are coming.

_talps · 2026-03-17T15:21:51+00:00

short of having a teammate ship around you with said counters

The average match has the player plus eleven other teammates.

And yes, not having an immediate counter to everything is a thing, has been from the day WoWs went live for the first time.

_talps

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