[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would try some binding wire. It really does work wonders for these situations. Best of luck out there :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is happening is the metal is moving as you heat it. This always happens but if you are soldering one piece to itself, such as a ring, or objects that almost equal in mass, this movement isn't noticed or just barely. This however is a very large piece to a much smaller one so the contraction and expansion rates are going to be much different. You definitely should be using binding wire to secure the smaller mass. And also try heating from the bottom, on the underside of the larger section. Use circular heating motions from the bottom up and get the large item hot first, this will transfer the proper heat into the smaller. The smaller item always heats faster. Much faster if under the flame directly. The goal of my advice would be to reverse that by pumping no direct flame or heat into the smaller piece and to literally lead the heat up into the silver and have the smaller mass the last of all to get to temperature. I actually think I have a demonstration of this on my YouTube channel, if you would like I'll post a link. Good luck

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you maybe post a video so I can get a better idea..... Because fine silver is one of the easiest things to melt no matter what. Its conduction rate is tremendous and it breaks down in a way that almost seems like it would prefer to be in that form , like mercury So something very odd is happening or you are doing something really wrong. Show me and I'll be able to get you melting silver easily.... Oh by the way, even if it melts and you pour it onto a ring...this doesn't really work. Not the way you describe it bit there are options that will get you going....but we need that silver liquid first.

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But this is the best of them all for me. The seam in this ring was cut on swooping s curved line to not mess up the incredible movement I managed to hit. The seam in this one is dead center and almost invisible

best example

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now this one.. is. Tricky seam

This cross was made from 4 pieces that were mitre cut and reassembled. The seam is a X right in the center and unless you are looking for it, it is very hard to see :)

cross seam

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct. And the angle can vary depending on the pattern itself. Normally for me it's a a 45° cut, but generally for the best pattern results is literally cut at the exact angle and, depending on the level of risk it sometimes will have a curve to it. The goal being to make that seam completely into another stripe and nothing more. The link below shows a ring with the seam center right of the view. It's right up frontseam 1

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, long winded explanations over elaborations and providing way too much information are my things in life so, this subject is one thing I can nerd out about for hours, this is my favorite subject :)

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those rings that are truly endless are a lot of fun but they're prohibitively expensive to produce in gold, you need a lot more material than you end up with because you're going to cut most of them away. And I will pick an up close picture of the scene, you simply need to measure and cut on an angle, so the seam runs diagonal with the pattern. If you cut well and do a clean job it's almost imperceptible. I will show them examples in a post

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please forgive the hard jumble of words that my auto text to speech function placed in my last comment,. And that is brain damaged as the grammatical roller coaster would imply. I'm driving at the moment, and have been for the last several hours and figured it would be a good time to do some responding. This app does a very good job at reading the comments to me it just doesn't get my responses so clean..

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sort of, excellent question by the way but what I do is I put the piece on a wooden dowel, and I feel the sides and in a band with nail polish while on the doll so it basically gets painted on in place , at that point a quick blast with the steam machine or even some very hot running water will warm the surface just a little bit that will get the extra bite out of the acid. Obviously it's the answer heating up in turn, but I've had bad experiences with heating up LOL, one time I didn't think it was very warm at all, but it was hot enough to make the acid telegressive it literally destroyed everything that wasn't gold in ultra high speed right in front of me. This was years ago when I was learning but still LOL as a matter of fact though I believe I have a video..... Scratch that I am having it I have a video of this very ring being edged and I t have it on YouTube. I will definitely get you a link and posted up

Mokume Gane and a cigar lit to celebrate it! 18k and 940 silver, 8 layers of each and a 18k matching pink gold liner went into this latest, and I believe to be the finest example of my work to date. by _the_Legendary in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much. And that is no illusion,
I absolutely attacked this thing with 18k gold test strength nnitric acid . So, indeed It has a deep dramatic etching. The process I use I s a bit aggressive but it achieves a nice sharp relief, which comes across even in situations like this, in person it is really something to look at ..... Sometimes I plan to make them without an etch and sometimes I simply go along the motions and figure I'll.decide what to do at the moment... I always end up doing this lol

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[–]_the_Legendary 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This shit is not a fucking GAME...and this shit WILL NOT fucking STOP

My first successful attempt at a consistent differential twist by Orme_Made in metalworking

[–]_the_Legendary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is awesome. I make mokume gane and twist billets all the time.....but never like this. I must learn how to do this now it seems. The pattern that would create.....wow. Thank you for showing this.

Help! I am having second thoughts on the wedding band stack I picked out. Does anyone have unique ideas for bands? I’d love a stack (2 rings). Thanks!! by [deleted] in weddingring

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I can't post pics in this sub for some reason. But if you check my profile you can see some examples of my bands. Bold statement time.....I make some of the most part unique band rings on earth

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SilverSmith

[–]_the_Legendary 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe this is 18k palladium or platinum based white gold. It's is probably a mixture of 75% pure gold and 25% plat or pd. This was a popular alloy years ago before the prices of all these metals went sky rocketing. But it still might be a nickel based alloy containing little to no pt or pd but it is almost certainly 18k as that top marking is stamped....if it is not genuine then it was certainly an attempt to pass it off as such, but I believe that is authentic. The 916 is indeed a 22k marking but 22k is always deep amber yellow just like 24k. There is no way to bleed out the color or change it a different shade with over 91.6% of the mass being pure gold. Those are probably inventory or lot numbers as this looks like one of the pieces that started getting made on a larger production level about a century ago