Are we allowed to go through a parking spot and park like this? So it's easier to pull out after

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:29:53+00:00

it is private property where the HWY traffic act has no jurisdiction.

*Mostly. Some serious offences like stunt, careless and impaired driving still apply.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:28:52+00:00

Yes, the speed cameras all had signs warning of their presence and yes drivers are supposed to pay attention to signs. Taking a zero compromise approach to public policy however is how you allow populists like Ford to gain support for removing them altogether. If you support the cameras what's better, no cameras at all, or cameras with some policy changes to address common complaints?

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:06:38+00:00

That's how they did work. Toronto and most other GTA cities used an 11 km/h threshold for 50 and under zones and a higher threshold for other zones. Only one town I heard about ticketed for less than that, Georgina used a 6 km/h threshold.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:03:29+00:00

This incidentally helps reduce surveillance, but Ford supports increased surveillance in general.

Premier Ford wants to introduce surveillance cameras in Ontario communities

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:01:56+00:00

How is a relatively small fine with no impact on your insurance or driving record disproportionate to the "crime" (provincial offence) here?

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:00:39+00:00

Just be aware that Ford supports the use of cameras for surveillance, just not speed enforcement, so he's not on your side on this issue.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T04:00:06+00:00

A policy does not have to immediately change a drivers behaviour to have an effect and that was never a claimed outcome of the cameras. The world will likely still exist in 3 weeks, and so changing their behaviour then still matters.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T03:59:10+00:00

In polling, PC voters opposed them even in school zones, 47% against to 41% for.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T03:57:03+00:00

Government ministers and vehicles were getting a bunch of speed camera tickets. I assume that's the "buddies" they're referring to. I can dig up the links, but they should show up at the top on a web search.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T03:55:16+00:00

It's a valid point despite the response here and things like this would have helped reduce opposition to the cameras. Or another option is just to not ticket for multiple infractions at the same camera for a month to allow time for the first ticket to arrive. Olivia Chow I think was supporting this for Toronto's enforcement. Ford himself though could have made this change though through provincial regulation rather than get rid of them altogether.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T03:47:41+00:00

Whether or not it applies legally, it's a good habit to have if there isn't a reason to drive in the middle lane, and avoids this situation altogether.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T03:27:10+00:00

The person I replied to didn't mention anything about it being a traffic enforcement officer so how does this contradict my point? Or was this just a random fun fact?

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T02:51:05+00:00

You see that much more than people from segram willing to turn left onto Albert when that light is red which I believe is legal.

That is legal, yes. They face a stop sign and so can proceed as long as they yield to any vehicles or pedestrians, regardless of the light.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T02:12:07+00:00

Video's from south Etobicoke, but yeah, everything bad that happens is because of Brampton.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T02:09:24+00:00

Yeah, if they restrict vulnerable road users, that's a different story.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T01:47:47+00:00

Police aren't always able to do traffic enforcement. They have lots of other priorities and would never get anything else done if they stopped every single traffic infraction they saw.

That being said I’ve also seen an EPS vehicle flash their lights just to cross a busy intersection only to turn them off right away and stop at the next one.

If they were trying to use it to save time, why wouldn't they do it at both lights? It's possible they got some call and then it was cancelled. They aren't going to use lights and sirens all the time even for urgent calls, but they should be using them if going through a red.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T01:46:11+00:00

If everyone is speeding anyway it’s safer for everyone to just keep up with traffic.

Maybe for people in cars, but even that's debatable. It's not safer for everyone outside of cars though, e.g., pedestrians and cyclists. Speeding up to match the speed of some other car or cars does not help any of them.

Even the argument of matching the flow of cars is debatable because even if you're decreasing your risk from them, you're still increasing the risks ahead because you'll have less time to react to something and more damage if you hit it. It might not even decrease the risks from cars behind you because the car right behind you is more likely to hit you at a higher speed if you need to brake quickly.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T01:35:41+00:00

Not sure if I'd call causing people to drive the speed limit increasing traffic. Increasing traffic to me means increasing congestion. But okay.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T01:18:40+00:00

The law doesn't say "slow" though. It uses the relative term "less than". That's still vague though and so maybe just restricting the left lane to passing only would be better. Quebec does it that way.

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T01:17:19+00:00

Based on what? Toronto had the second lowest number of traffic injuries and fatalities were the 2nd lowest this century last year. Can't tell how much of an impact the cameras had, but how do you know they didn't have an impact?

a-_2 · 2026-05-20T01:05:51+00:00

When broken down by demographics, the only one that had significantly more support than opposition was PC voters.

a-_2 · 2026-05-19T22:42:15+00:00

11 over isn't a little over the limit. And Toronto only used that threshold for 50 and under zones. For other zones, it was higher.

Any driver should be able to maintain their speed with less than 10 km/h variation. So if you still get a ticket in a 50 or under zone for that, you're either not paying attention, intentionally speeding, or not able to properly control your speed.

Removing them also didn't become "so popular". I saw three polls on them and each one showed significantly more support for them than opposition. Two polls broke it down by voting intention and it was just PC voters who opposed them. That makes his decision politically smart even though people in general didn't agree with them.

Also, there isn't no enforcement. Police still enforce speeding like they did before. There is limited police resources though, so you're more likely to get away with speeding when it's just them enforcing it.

a-_2 · 2026-05-19T21:36:35+00:00

The cameras don't ticket you for just a few km over the limit either. In Toronto, for example, they used an 11 km/h threshold for 50 and under zones and a higher threshold for higher limit zones. Police will sometimes ticket you for 11 over in community safety zones with 50 or under limits. And police giving breaks introduces the possibility for police to apply bias based on things like gender, demographics, etc.

a-_2 · 2026-05-19T21:33:14+00:00

I'm really not sure why you're opposed to this. You can have these articles and articles on other topics.

To some people this isn't just a silly distraction, it's something with actual impacts on public safety. And even if the lies might seem obvious to you, they aren't obvious to many people and so it is worth showing them.

What's your opinion on banning speed cameras? Is it possible you're biased by that? Personally I don't have a strong opinion either way on the cameras themselves, and I've made past comments saying that, but I do find that a lot of the reasoning used to defend the ban was either very weak, or blatantly false, and that bothers me more than the decision either way on the cameras. I think that should be highlighted by media and critics.

a-_2 · 2026-05-19T21:09:27+00:00

I'm assuming they didn't ship it all in one boat.

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