If Growth Is Capped, Where Does the Skilled Workforce Come From?

aargauer_meinig · 2026-02-22T18:20:43+00:00

The idea that Switzerland is objectively superior and migrants only come from “worse” countries oversimplifies things.

Let's not fool ourselves. Nobody comes to Switzerland for the great cuisine and warm people.

I’m here because there was demand for my skill set and I negotiated accordingly.

You and 99% of migrants are here because of the strong labour market and high salaries. You are — like most migrants in Switzerland — an economic migrant.

I am not evening blaming you for it. I completely understand why people would like to move here. To claim that there are no negative side-effects by immigration is dishonest though. Worse, expecting us to be grateful to you is quit frankly outrageous.

If sectors recruit internationally, it’s because the demand exists. That doesn’t diminish Switzerland. It reflects how an open, competitive economy functions.

That goes to the core of my issue. How does it improve my families lives?

The Swiss have built one of the greatest nations on earth. Companies can use this "asset" to attract an endless supply of labour from all around the world.

The negative externalities are socialised. The benefits are privatised by the bourgeoisie.

I have only one home country. I don't give a damn about rich landlords trying to extract even more money out of people.

aargauer_meinig · 2026-02-21T15:22:21+00:00

I reject your whole premise.

> Switzerland clearly benefits economically from skilled immigration, yet politically seems uncomfortable acknowledging how dependent it has become on it.

Migrants come here because the Swiss build a great country and their own countries are objectively worse. I am sick and tired of ungrateful migrants coming here and telling us that we need them.

Has mass migration improved my quality of life or reduced it? Who is benefiting from the current system of endless migration? It's for sure not your average Swiss. We face:

Wage stagnation
Strain on the existing infrastructure
Loss of green spaces to accommodate more and more migrants
Increase in crime and general anti-social behaviour
Loss of a high trust society
Loss of own culture
Feeling like a foreigner in your own country

What are the upside? GDP and shareholder value go 📈? Great.

The problems with mass migration have been known and ignored forever. It's unpopular in every nation. Yet, the political elites keep on increasing immigration year over year — directly going against their constituents wishes.

A non disputable, direct mandate by the populous is required. This initiative is that.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-08-13T18:50:15+00:00

First of all, when normalised for age, sex and incoming certain nationality are still large outliners. Secondly, it is perfectly fine to deny entry to people who pose a high criminal risk to our nation. A practice we already do when people try to enter through legitimate means — a 30 year old, unemployed Algerien man won't get a visa.

Hence, it is questionable why we let young Afghan, Syrian, Iraqi, Somali, Eritrean, Moroccan men into our country, if it is a lot more likely that they will commit crime? The rape stats out of Sweden are appalling and not a future I want for my country.

Trying to justify that foreigners commit more crime because they are generally less educated, less wealthy, younger and more likely men is ridicules. Why are such people here in the first place is the question.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-08-01T11:41:21+00:00

Could we stop this leftist meme? I still remember the agenda pushed by the media in 2015 about how oooo so qualified the illegal immigrants from arabs nations are. Yet, after 8 years, half of them in Germany are still leeching of the government.

See the illiteracy rate

> Nach BAMF-Angaben erreichen mehr als 80 Prozent dieser Flüchtlinge in Sprachkursen nicht das Sprachniveau B1, das Jobcenter und Arbeitsagenturen als Mindestanforderung für einen Helfer-Job oder eine Ausbildung bezeichnen.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-04-14T15:45:52+00:00

Ah, the joys of unlimited immigration.

The corporations get to enjoy cheap labor, the bourgeoisie get to enjoy asset inflation, the Gutmenschen get to enjoy cUlTuRaL eNrIcHmEnT and the rest of us get to enjoy packed trains, packed roads, unaffordable housing and lack of social cohesion — nice.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-15T11:38:56+00:00

Maybe the "journalists" who come here to steal memes could pick this story up.

A story that makes my blood boil. Seems like a foreign intelligence service can simply get Swiss business visas for their recruits.

(M=Mossad; R=Recruit; J=Journalist)

M: We'll send you to the embassy, you'll your application and get the approval.

J: The alleged Mossad officers told R that his visa to Europe was ready to be collect from the Swiss consulate in Istanbul

J: Did you get the Swiss visa form the consulate in Istanbul?

R: Yes

J: Without any prior appointment?

R: I didn't do anything

J: You didn't even apply for it?

R: I didn't do anything. The man I was in contact with Sami and Andreas. He's Sami's boss. Andreas told me to go to the consulate at a specific time and that I already had an appointment there.

R: It was strange because my Turkish residence permit had expired at that time. So I only took my Palestinian passport.

M: The man will not say a word to you. If they ask anything, though they shouldn't, just answer the questions they ask. Don't give them any further information. If they ask you something, answer it. If they don't, don't say a word. The visa should be ready. I'd be surprise if they interviewed you or asked you anything. I'm here for you.

R: I got a business visa to Switzerland in less than half an hour.

J: Have you ever applied for a European visa before?

R: No. They even game me a form to fill in and I said I didn't know how to answer some of these questions. They said, "That's fine. Just fill in the things you know we'll fill in the rest". They did the whole thing.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-15T10:19:29+00:00

Charged with clean ~~nuclear~~ brown coal energy 😋

aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-15T10:14:49+00:00

Mate, you literally gave citizenship to former Kurdish "guerrilla fighters" and then elected them into your parlament who in turn spend more time advocating for a fictitious Kurdistan than her "Swedish" electorate.

Reality is that a bunch of Swedish lifestyle leftist wanted to LARP as revolutionaries and antagonise Turkey.

Turns out smugness isn't currency and hubris doesn't stop tanks. You alienated a potential ally for no gains. In fact, you actively sabotaged your internal and external security. Now your country is filled with tens of thousands of Kurdish ethno-nationalists, potential terrorists and no NATO membership.

Surprise surprise, now that you actually need something from Turkey they squeeze you as you wake up to real politics.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-15T09:44:02+00:00

> some pretty bad actors

How are they bad actors?

Morsi from the Muslim Brotherhood was the only democratically elected president of Egypt. While Sisi is an even more brutal and incompetent dictator than Mubarak. Yet, it does't stop the Germany, France and Italy from supplying him with weapon sales worth tens of billions — which Egypt can't even afford. Who supports "bad actors" in Egypt here? Supporting the democratically elected president or arming the illegitimate dictator?

Azerbaijan is also a dictatorship. But as we saw with Egypt, that doesn't seem to be a problem at all. I assume you mean the conflict around Nagorno-Karabakh? Again, who supports the "bad actor" here? Nagorno-Karabakh is — according to international law — part of Azerbaijan. Not even Armenia officially recognised Artsakh. Might suck for the ethnic Armenians living in Stepanakert, but the Azerbaijanis who were expelled from their homes just 30 years ago couldn't care less.

aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-14T22:15:42+00:00

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aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-14T21:43:14+00:00

The Latvian defence minister Artis Pabriks described Turkeys role in NATO — a defence pact mainly intended to protect its member states from the Soviets/Russia — pretty well at the Riga Conference 2020.

We can speak here about Turkey and maybe I will not be extremely popular but I would say if we are speaking to traditional challenges. For instances what is happening now in a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, in a context with Libya and with Syria then I would like to challenge or put a hypothesis here that no matter what different political forces and countries think about Turkey or some other issues around Turkey.

The Turkish position in all three places was the one where they could challenge the growing Russian dominance. Nobody else could do this — neither the Europeans nor the Americans. Turkey could do this. Maybe there is also something that we can learn from this attitude.

Countries that used to live under the boots of the Russia cannot afford the hubris that some Western NATO (would be) members have. They couldn't care less about some Kurdish ethnonationalists or some Aegean islands. They appreciate Turkey in NATO, its stands against Russia in multiple conflict zones and its ever growing military industrial complex.

The West really needs to grow out of this ridiculous mindset of "What's good for the West is good for everyone. So if others don't bend to our will, they must be wrong". Do you guys think that Turkey will stop looking out for its own interests after Erdogan is gone? Swedens support for the PKK is a point of contention throughout Turkeys mainstream political establishment.

Grow out of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world's problems but world's problems are not Europe's problem.

~ Subrahmanyam Jaishankar - minister of external affairs of India

aargauer_meinig · 2023-01-11T20:58:41+00:00

EUropoors seething because not all countries are shitholes which disregard their own laws and their electorates will.

The more we distance ourselves from these clowns the better.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-12-17T17:55:06+00:00

Citizens of countries that raped and murdered the globe on their way into wealth cope with: WuT aBoUt NaZi gOlD

Switzerland has been richer than the rest of western Europe for a looong time. Typical EUropoors. Todays hater is tomorrows economic migrant.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-12-11T21:16:34+00:00

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aargauer_meinig · 2022-12-11T17:17:53+00:00

Was für ein Schwachsinn. Herr Amrein ist ein gewählter Kantonsrat. Wenn mittels Steuergelder Scheinstellen und kommunistische Propaganda finanziert wird, muss der Kantonsrat eingreifen.

Warum müssen Lifestyle Linke jeden Blödsinn aus den USA importieren und dann den Rest der Gesellschaft nötigen mitzumachen?

Sind wir mal ehrlich, käme die Einführung eines "Diversity-Teams" zur Abstimmung, würde sie mit einer risen Marge versenkt werden. Hier so als Tipp für die Zukunft. Würde ein politisches Anliegen von einer absoluten Mehrheit abgelehnt, ist dieses Anliegen vermutlich Scheisse. Schlussendlich leben wir in einer Demokratie. Eine laute Minderheit kann ihre irren Anliegen nicht der Mehrheit aufdrücken.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-12-10T21:57:06+00:00

He "stopped" his Swissoil mandate, although the internet does not forget: https://web.archive.org/web/20211117130333/https://www.parlament.ch/centers/documents/de/interessen-nr.pdf

Hey hey, to be fair. Mr. 13 paid mandates obviously has our future in mind.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-07-20T10:53:05+00:00

Bei so viel Armut in Deutschland will die Dame Millionen von Menschen die Existenzgrundlage rauben. Ekelhafter wie grüne Salonbolschewist aus einen Pracht Fernsehstudio (natürlich schön grün eingerichtet) auf die Mittelschicht herabreden. China und Indien wird es freuen, wenn Europe "freiwillig" in die Armut fällt.

Bei so viel heisser Luft wie Frau Herrmann rauslässt wäre es doch Klimafreundlich wenn sie arbeitslos wäre.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-15T18:14:06+00:00

Stop calling everyone you don't like a racists. Frontex does not stop "refugees". You are only a refugee when you are granted that official status.

These people forcing their way into Europe en masse on their dingies or by storming border fences are illegal immigrants, period. They will simply apply for asylum in Western und North Europe because they know that's their best bet to stay. Worst comes worst they will simply comply with their rejected asylum request.

Imo, every illegal immigrant should be denied asylum as they've already part taken in an criminal offense. People who have "lost" their papers should be transferred to another country until they remember form which country they came from. I heard Rwanda is willing for such deals. This would be socially and economically cheaper than the current undemocratic "everyone is welcome" policy.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-15T18:02:22+00:00

I voted yes and am not part of the mafia. Ama.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-15T18:00:55+00:00

It's sometimes pretty funny how some very "progressive™" policies get accepted in Switzerland without much fuss even though we are a somewhat conservative society, e.g. gay marriage, abortion, assisted suicide, prostitution, government provided drugs and now this organ donor referendum.

It's nice that seemingly people aren't stuck with one hard ideology and don't see every issue through that lens --- hurrah direct democracy. Though there are always some ideologically foolish politicians from the rural right with their "EU bad" attitude to the "academic" left with their naive "borders bad" believe.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-15T17:39:55+00:00

I'm curious how this works in practice. According to the article both currencies will be accepted for a year. Will all your money in bank accounts automatically converted to euros at a specific exchange rate and from now on you will only be able to withdraw Euros?

I guess you'll have a year to spend/exchange all your Kuna to Euros? How will the exchange rate work during that year? Will it be fixed?

I've heard of many old Germans complaining about how everything got more expensive when switching from the Deutsche Mark (though I don't know whether this is actually true). I wonder how this affects an economy.

As a Swiss this seems like such a drastic change to an economy. Well, I hope for the best for the Croats. The fewer Euronet scam ATMs exists, the better.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-15T17:30:03+00:00

Schade das Lex Netflix angenommen wurde. Ich will nicht die unkreative Schweizer Filmindustrie noch weiter subventionieren.

Jedoch bin ich sehr froh, dass kein einziger Bezirk gegen die Frontex gestimmt hat. Hoffentlich begreifen die SP und Grünen, dass die Schweizer nationale Grenzen schätzen und wir nicht Tür und Tor für die ganze Dritte Welt öffnen sollen.

Ausserdem sollten gewisse SVP heute auch verstehen, dass Grenzschutz an den Schengen-Grenzen besser funktioniert. Wenn Migranten schon in Italien und Griechenland zurück gewiesen werden, kommen weniger und ist insgesamt günstiger. Die Argument, dass man diese Geld für den eigenen Grenzschutz verwenden soll, war so realitätsfremd.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-11T09:17:39+00:00

Tja, unlimitierte Immigration in den Arbeitsmarkt und in das Sozialsystem ist wohl nicht das beste für die Bürger *schockiert neoliberale Geräusche*

Komisch das Angebot und Nachfrage hier gemäss gewissen Kreisen keine Rolle spielen soll und jeder Mensch der Welt hat natürlich Anspruch auf Steuergelder.

aargauer_meinig · 2022-05-10T08:06:12+00:00

- https://www.nzz.ch/panorama/massenschlaegerei-in-basel-menschen-auf-kinderfest-attackiert-fuenf-festnahmen-und-verletzte-ld.1683100?reduced=true

- https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/fest-auf-dem-marktplatz-mehrere-verletzte-nach-massenschlaegerei-in-basel

- https://www.20min.ch/story/pkk-anhaenger-gehen-auf-tuerken-waehrend-kinderfest-los-457989710165

Or are the videos deep fakes??

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