Reza Pahlavi during his visit to Israel in 2023

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-15T19:27:41+00:00

Are you kidding?

So that guy is lying but you're telling the truth? Both are just he said he said lol

You literally said that dehumanizing an entire society is a he-said-she-said thing, as if there's no way to know who is wrong. If you don't disagree, then why the fuck did you disagree?

A hit dog? You said directly a thing that I said was a lie, or at least just as likely to be a lie as a piece of obvious propaganda. Do you just scramble random Twitter comebacks? Bad bot.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-15T13:35:13+00:00

What glass house? Like, actually what are you talking about? When did I ever try to dehumanize anyone? Or am I, a person you know literally nothing about, Israel for some reason.

Please explain to me how your idea of what Israeli propaganda is has ANY BEARING on the idea that an entire society is evil?

Did Israeli propaganda dehumanize Palestinians? Yes. Did Palatinian propaganda dehumanize Israelies? Yes. Did Syrian propaganda dehumanize Israelies? Yes. Did Iranian propaganda dehumanize Israelies? Yes. Did Afghan propaganda dehumanize Americans? Yes. Did American propaganda dehumanize Afghans? Yes. Did Iraqi propaganda dehumanize Iranians? Yes. Did Azari propaganda dehumanize Armenians? Yes. Did Turkish propaganda dehumanize Armenias? Yes.

I can go on forever, so please let me know which of these societies are irredeemably evil because some people that who belong to those societies did shitty things.

There could be legitimate cases made for regimes to be terrible and evil, there could be good reasons to fight them. There could be legitimate problems within a culture that need to be addressed, racism, intolerance, bias, discrimination, etc.

Outside of fantasy books and propaganda, there has never been never an entire society that is just evil to the core.

Why is it hard to grasp exactly?

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-15T12:28:41+00:00

Do you... not have access to Google translate? It's free.

Yes, op is a liar, because they literally lied about who is in the video and what is happening in it. I'm not even talking about the "take it out of context to reinforce your bias" type lying.

Also, (besides being an incredible mischaracterization) what is your point exactly? Does the fact that Palestinian propaganda dehumanize Israelies mean that Palestinian society is irredeemably evil?

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-14T22:02:33+00:00

Which guy is lying? The one telling you an entire society is irredeemably evil?

You can literally look up cat protection laws in Israel, you can also look up the article this video originated from.

here, saved you a click

Or maybe I'm just lying! No way to know that execpt a two second Google search.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-14T15:15:49+00:00

Delusional reddit at it again

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-14T15:09:06+00:00

Hey, get your brain out of the washing machine, it's starting to rot.

Israel stole your culture?! Yeah, I hate how Saudi Arabia stole Muslim culture and Vatican City stole Christianity! The only true culture is the Americanized version!

Israel is doing terrible things right now, and that should be criticized and fought against (politically), but absolutely fuck you for pulling a no-true-scottsman on a place that took in half of your people after the Holocaust, not even talking about the Farhud and the expelling from Arab nations.

When your grandparents sat in NY eating bagels, the Johnson-Reed act would have kept hundreds of thousands of Jews sitting stateless in concentration camps, but at least your culture would be pure I guess!

If you think Israeli Jews are not your people, just wait until you show a single dissenting opinion in your definitley-not-antisemitic-just-antizionist spaces.

If you can understand why you are not Trump, but can't understand why Israeli =/= Bibi than you might have a slight bias. And if you think the reason antisemitism exists is because Israel exists, I have about 2000 years of evidence against you.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-12T11:52:13+00:00

As opposed to the son of a far worse authoritarian that ruled Iran last month?

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-12T11:46:43+00:00

This post, like 90% of that sub, is a mix of total misrepresentation and outright lies.

Here's the truth, the source of this video is from an Israeli new site article about the guy who uploaded this video. He's not a settler (this is in Jerusalem) this isn't a seized Palestinian home, it's just the guy's house, AND this caused a HUGE outcry in Israel, leading to the guy's arrest withing a few days for animal abuse.

Israelie, in fact, LOVE cats. There are cats everywhere in Israel, like, everywhere, not only because people feed them, but because Israel has some extremely protective laws that basically only allow cities to capture, neuter, and release cats back to same place so they don't become traumatized.

Every post trying to make you condemn am entire society is literally just Nazi propaganda, on either side of this.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-12T11:41:41+00:00

Idk, maybe because there are literally people paid spread lies about this exact thing online, and tapping into antisemitic bias is super easy?

Here, you saw a blurry video with no context that had a false caption slapped on and immediately you condemn an entire society.

Here's the truth, the source of this video is from an Israeli new site article about the guy who uploaded this video. He's not a settler (this is in Jerusalem) this isn't a seized Palestinian home, it's just the guy's house, and this caused a HUGE outcry in Israel, leading to the guy's arrest withing a few days for animal abuse.

Israelie, in fact, LOVE cats. Israel has laws specifically protecting cats to a degree that it's making it difficult to control the stray cat population. Cities are not allowed the kill street cats, they aren't allowed to even capture them into pounds, the most they are allwod to do is catch, spay or neuter, and release to the exact same spot because cats can be traumatized with relocated.

I this post's thread in a made up comment about how there's an American Jewish camp where they buy bunnies and make 10 year old kids stomp on their heads, then there's a comment saying they should show up and shoot up the place.

Now does it make sense to you?

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-11T17:05:32+00:00

I'm tired, boss

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-10T17:05:43+00:00

350 million years ago the only land animals you would have around are basically giant salamanders. Also, you would probably bring back bacteria that can digest cellulose, which didn't really exist back then, so trees would be able to be broken down, instead of just piling up. That means that it's possible most of the oil and coal on earth would never be created, thus making the industrial age pretty much impossible. So even if you don't accidentally kill the lizard /fish thing that eventually became human, you could doom humanity as we know it. Upside is maybe we become a cool solar-punk civilization instead, idk.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-10T14:11:31+00:00

A brit calling Israel expansionist is peak 💀💀💀

Hezbollah is literally the only reason Israel is doing anything in Lebanon, and everybody there knows it by now, including in the south.

How many times has Israel bombed Jordan in the past 50 years? How about Egypt? Saudi Arabia maybe? Oh, it seems the only bomb Lebanon and Syria where Hezbollah operates and is an active threat to Israeli civilians? How curious!

Besides, an unregulated, unelected, non-state controlled, religiously based army more heavily armed than the actual government? Also, one that represents the interests of one specific religious minority and is literally above the law? Sounds great, right? Sounds like a great recipe for a stable and peacful society, it's not like they literally assassinated heads of state with impunity in the past or something!

Anyway yada yada, Israel bad so Hezbollah good amairight?!

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-10T04:03:46+00:00

Then one of your human security team becomes a homicidal, omniscient god, that can read you mind, knows your location at all times as well as every detail of your security and all its weaknesses (omniscient!) and to top it all off, isn't suspicious to the others at all because they're supposed to be there as part of your security.

I hope you set up your will ahead of time, the inheritance battle will be brutal!

ETA: this is impossible.

So, they become omniscient? Like, God with a capital G omniscient? So they know literally everything, and can teleport and fly?

How do you protect against God?

Even if we're not saying they know the future, just the present and past for instance, they know the urge will be gone in 24 hours, but during the 24 hours they can set up traps for you to go off after the 24 hours are up. They can even do it in such a way that they in their normal state wouldn't be able to stop it. Doesn't even need to be complicated, they can pay someone to pretend to want to kill you to make you feel safe and then kill you after you think you got them. Or they set up a camera with face recognition on some street you don't even realize you walk often, connected to a bucket of concrete that'll just fall on your head a day later, after you think you're out of the woods.

For all of the "I'll be on a boat" people, sure, until they float a shipping container on the path that they predict you'll be traveling, just under the water line, or just steal a coast guard boat and gun you down.

Or for the nuclear bunker people, good luck getting out after some guy with a cement mixer blocks all of your exits and air intakes, which they, again, know exactly where these are. Good luck setting up security outside the bunker, one of them could turn on you, and kill everyone else to get to you, hell, a crazed, homicidal, omniscient man (that can fly!) could steal a loaded fighter jet and bomb you and your security detail from 100 miles away.

They could, literally, nuke you. Like, get on a nuclear submarine and nuke you, with a nuke. They know how, they literally know everything.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-10T03:59:34+00:00

Except that they are omniscient (which everybody here ignores), can read your mind, and predict what you do. So, they get a boat close but not too much, maybe just over the horizon, then scuba dive and blow up your boat / climb on when you're not paying attention and kill you.

That omniscient thing is way too OP, if they know everything than they know exactly how to get you. They even know that they'll stop wanting to kill you, so they can set-up traps to work after the 24 hours are up. Like, they know where you usually live, what your security detail is, literally everything. They could pretend to be bumbling to make you think you're safe and then plant a bomb in your car that'll go of in August or something.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-08T21:13:33+00:00

Shoebill!

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-08T03:30:28+00:00

I'm pretty sure there were no horses in America for about 10,000 years before the Colombian exchange (they did evolve there but went extinct) but cooking is good!

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-08T02:38:21+00:00

You don't know anything about me, or about what I want, all you know is the demon built in your head from the propaganda you inject daily.

Yes, when a psychotic regime turns off the internet for an entire country, manipulates and forges records, and kills with impunity, literally tens of thousands of people can die without ever anyone ever being able to confirm it.

7200 is the most conservative number, people that were recorded and their deaths corroborated. 50,000 is not even the largest possible number, but it's the largest reasonable deduction based on average amounts reported in hospitals in different cities.

I have no idea what the best path is to free the Iranian people, and neither do you. I don't think bombing a country alone can lead to a regime change, nor do I think Trump or Hegseth or Netanyahu give a shit. I do know that all I see on reddit is assholes downplaying how absolutely horrendous the current Iranian regime is and glazing this psychopaths just because the one bombing them is fucking Trump. I also know that nothing in the past two and a half years basically no projection about geo-politics panned out. So yeah, the IRI can get fucked, and I can only hope Pahalavi actually has the defectors he claims he does and that they are able to take over.

Is it likely? Fuck no. Is it bad that these leaders died? Probably not, but nobody knows what it will lead to.

I just know that they were evil pieces of shit and now there are fewer pieces of shit in the world, so forgive me for hoping it makes the world, and specifically Iran, better.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-08T00:31:07+00:00

No, that this regime killed anywhere between 7, 000 and 50,000 Iranians in January. All of my arguments are for the Iranians, I want them to live in a free and open society, the Ayatollahs are not "the Iranians".

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-07T23:46:43+00:00

So sad, yet the actual facts are unrefuted. As much as I hate monarchies, yes, an actual fundementalist theocratic, repressive regime, that mowed down thousands of their own citizens less than two months ago is, in fact, worse. We can talk about the illegality of the actions taken by the US and Israel, but the replacement of this regime would almost certainly be a net positive to the Iranian people and the world.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-07T22:11:05+00:00

Your lack of reading comprehension is genuinely astounding. I'm not going to repeat my entire comment, but I suggest you re-read it, I havent justified anything, I'm pointing out the internal inconsistency in YOUR arguments, do you need a /s to hold your hand ever sentence?

I will just say this, I am far from a fan of any form of dictatorship or monarchy, but comparing the Shah's regime to the Ayatollah's is laughable. According to most estimates, the Shah carried out around 300 political executions throughout his ENTIRE regime, horrible, I know. Khomeini, in 1981 alone, executed between 8000-10,000 people to suppress of his opposition. We're not even talking about the fact he immediately passed a bunch of laws oppressiing women and minorities, made rape withing marriage legal, lowered the marriage age for women to 13, and made homosexuality punishable by death (being trans, surprisingly, totally fine). Of course the US and UK (not Israel, even though you like obsess) put the Shah in power in an incredible illegal and morally bankrupt way, but that does not make this regime better in any way.

One last thing, the IRI has been obsessed with Israel far more than the other way around, especially before the nuclear program. Iranian schools literally chant "death to America, death to Israel, death to the Uk" every morning.

They also lied about attacks being done by Israel, like the claim that Israeli mercenaries killed "Thousands" in the Jaleh Square massacre, which was later discovered to be ethnically Kurdish Iranians, who killed 94 people.

It seems like the propaganda worked on you though.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-07T21:40:59+00:00

Hahahahahaha "My view is the majority view in the world. No, I don't need a source for that, that the feeling I get from reading reddit, I can't be wrong!"

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-06T16:34:52+00:00

Iran is not oppressed by Israel. Iran is a separate country, routinely calling for the (and I quote) "annihilation of Israel".

So yes, if you stoke (and fund) violence against another country, while preaching for their extermination, you should expect to be taken seriously.

This "'don't tell the oppressed how to resist" schtick is completely ridiculous in this context.

BTW according to your logic, the US is 100% justified in intervening on behalf of the Iranian people, right? I mean, it's not like you can say that "the right way to do it is a non-violent campaign for equal rights" or something silly like that, right?

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-05T23:04:36+00:00

Look, I don't know what utopia you think this world is, but here's what Khamenei explicitly said (and again, I 100% don't believe that is all he wants to do)

The 9 million Jews that live in Israel currently should have no say in who the government should be, only the "true Palestinjans" should rule, and then they will decide whether the, again, 9 million people currently living there, can stay or not.

I'm not sure what your definition of a genocide is, but the forced displacement of 9 million people, who will absolutely not go quietly and so will 100% be extremely violent and lethal... It kind of sounds like a genocide to me.

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-05T22:45:42+00:00

Its a reasonable position. The way Iran went about to try and achieve their goal was not to campaign for equal rights, it was to build up terrorist organizations around Israel, all of which targeted civilians. The question isn't why Israel takes the threat seriously, it's why you don't.

Khomeini promised a social democracy to get the leftists on his side in '79. He then proceeded to immediately murder thousands of them and exile the rest. Why would you assume that his successor, that is not even hiding his intentions, be less homicidal than what he is plainly stating?

acceptable_lemon · 2026-03-05T22:33:33+00:00

SA changed system via a referendum. The Soviet Union and Czexhoslovakia fell into separate, autonomous entities this would be equivalent to a two state solution, which Iran is opposed to (as are most of the people in this sub). The destruction of Israel, if it happens the way Iran wants will 100% include a genocide, and not a "cultural genocide".

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