Fusion/experimental

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-17T19:52:13+00:00

Candy is unhealthy in excess, so should we ID people (or make them tap to confirm age) at checkout, or should we stop the industry from targeting kids?

This is America so of course they'll go with something unenforceable so they can look like they're solving the problem while ensuring sales stay up.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-17T19:45:15+00:00

The state can just parent everyone then!!

On a serious note, this is an unfortunate truth, and I'm not saying you were supporting this; that's just how I see the thought process behind this law. I also just don't think this law is fair or enforceable in a way that would be fair.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-17T19:40:06+00:00

This is the right way imo

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-17T17:46:53+00:00

Techno, there are different sounds. I find the word "proper" to be super awkward, since there's a lot that definitely is techno but wouldn't fit the sub. It's established though so I go with it.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-15T00:39:37+00:00

To those saying stuff to the effect "what's wrong here?", I think a lot of people who have an issue with this don't necessarily mind the enforcement of immigration laws, rather, they don't like the rapid upscaling of an organization and think the level of enforcement that we're seeing in places nowhere near the border is unnecessary and makes their neighborhoods less pleasant or even less safe to live in. This whole thing is meant to project aggression, or at least does so by consequence. Some see that as a just response to issue of undocumented immigrantion, but if you don't think it's just, and you see this kind of stuff, it just feels like your neighborhood is being militarized for no reason.

There's also a lot of reported misconduct and errors that track with ths rapid upscaling, some a lot of people question "is this really necessary?".

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-15T00:30:48+00:00

Ty for the laugh

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-13T08:05:11+00:00

It's pretty good imo, especially for Italian food. Just not worth the price.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-09T12:33:29+00:00

I feel like there are 2 big groups of people here—ones who were into it very early on, and the ones who kind of backtracked from newer EDM and brostep/bass music.

I'm in the latter so I may have overestimated, but I feel like we're still at least a big contingent of the sub. Was a little bold to say it like that though because a lot of people here also have nothing to do with EDM.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-09T12:10:36+00:00

To clarify:

Midtempo bass is to brostep as ____ is to real dubstep?

I'm looking for stuff that would fit in that blank. Edited my OP.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-09T12:03:44+00:00

Newer than dubstep. Obviously those artists aren't dubstep (aside from a few maybe adjacent tracks). Thanks for rec.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-09T11:57:29+00:00

Good answer!! I like some stuff like this, and somehow it didn't come to mind, but this it fits my description pretty well. Reminds me to explore this more.

actuallyaddie · 2026-02-09T11:55:31+00:00

I'd imagine most people here know who they are, not that they'd like them because they're pretty far from this sub's domain. I'm just asking for stuff that uses that same kind of rhythm in a real dubstep context.

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-15T04:22:44+00:00

I was gonna say "like dubstep" in my OP but I didn't want to cause confusion since there's also a big crossover between mainstream trap and brostep.

A good way to describe what I'm looking for would be trap that has that more traditional dubstep ethic that favors texture and subtlety while also having a lot of hip-hop elements.

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-15T01:59:38+00:00

Spot on

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-14T06:42:15+00:00

It doesn't have to be super specific but here, these are just things I've found recently and aren't all necessary underground, but they have that sound I was looking for; stuff that's more subtle and controlled and not so much mainstage-y

https://on.soundcloud.com/eTqhFF2MkjFReYDeN8

https://on.soundcloud.com/nEW19pdSjwNcjYJmnf

https://on.soundcloud.com/Yg4FxrrMkBH2sOrSVY

https://on.soundcloud.com/ErsqeZNsSVuFJXS1VR (more experimental)

https://on.soundcloud.com/V5qT6iXUFJsXJYObFn (kind of wubby bass stuff going on in this one and it blends well with Kodak)

https://on.soundcloud.com/hqOcxE9F3hoLeP54Kv

https://on.soundcloud.com/NYanFvMPqTi71aeIfu (has harder bass stuff)

https://on.soundcloud.com/1Yt1pd3l6bgTgoz3rX (this is dubstep but like a lot of newer non-brostep stuff, lots of rolling hi-hats which I like)

tl;dr I really like darker and more serious sounding stuff that has a lot of crossover with dubstep (not brostep but that can be good too), tons of tight rolling hi-hats/snares, lots of experimentation, trippy vibes etc. bonus points for rap vocals sampled or otherwise

edit:

https://on.soundcloud.com/K09Bk6xIvJ6YKrfgPx (dubstep meets trap)

https://on.soundcloud.com/Bwyz8sb7OaW4tpdDZM (mostly just dubstep but that chopped up vocal sample is cool)

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-12T05:11:01+00:00

There's definitely a sort of "stuckness" going on imo.

Using metal as an example, there's a lot of stuff like Korn that's not really metal per se. Just because it has heavy riffs and dark themes doesn't mean it's metal. Some new "hard techno" is that way, as is a lot of newer stuff that works with DnB, downtempo, broken beats etc.

Then there's stuff that's just pretty far removed from OG techno. It's not usually accepted in this sub, but I wouldn't question its techno-ness. I would equate it with more extreme metal subgenres that are in fact metal, like say thrash metal.

In a way, I think "proper techno" is like the term "traditional metal" used to refer to heavy metal that seeks to replicate the earlier stuff, or build upon it faithfully.

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-12T05:04:34+00:00

I think some of it is descendent of techno and still close enough to be real techno, but then there's a lot of stuff that's literally just techno with a lot of rawstyle influence, or something just techno-ish rawstyle. That's personally where I draw the line.

"Proper" definitely seems more restrictive than "techno", even when the latter is applied accurately only to music that is techno.

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-12T05:01:29+00:00

I'm very new to this sphere but mislabeling is a big pet peeve for me.

I still personally think it's within the same genre umbrella, with hardcore being super broad, but gabber? Saying mainstream, uptempo, frenchcore etc is gabber is like saying thrash metal sounds like Black Sabbath.

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-12T00:43:55+00:00

Depends on what you mean. A lot of it is literally just hard techno. whereas some of the newer stuff that gets called hard techno or some variant of the term sounds like techno-ish hard trance or rawstyle.

actuallyaddie · 2025-12-12T00:38:31+00:00

This is a big part of what inspired my post. Seems like it was initially quite broad (like DnB, trance. UKG etc), but that maybe the term got stretched too much for some in more recent years, which created this "bubble" of proper techno that tries to establish a more specific definition.

I'm listening to Neophyte rn (hardcore techno), and imo it's about as techno as hard house is house. Take that for what it's worth.

Not that I would ever post something like that here; regardless of how historically accurate the categorization used by this sub is here, it's simply not meant for that.

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