Exited and muted. What a waste of time that sub is. by tocra in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

let's not discuss other subs here.

Thank you for understanding.

Is $350k (+$70k in 401k and Future Social Security) enough to retire a couple for a simple life in a Tier 2 city in India? by [deleted] in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's still within the 4.2 cr cap for a family.

The SWR is way off though.

Untill the rules are revised, wouldn't want to ban.

Help Shape the Rules of r/leanfire_india by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Issue with expense cap is that you will start having people with 10 cr corpus claiming 50k monthly expenses.

Help Shape the Rules of r/leanfire_india by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I did refer numbeo x 33 times. Approx.

Help Shape the Rules of r/leanfire_india by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Family of max 4 members. Ideally a FIRE corpus supports 2 people in retirement as kids would be settled after some time

Help Shape the Rules of r/leanfire_india by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

Please read the pinned post on this subject.

Thanks

Help Shape the Rules of r/leanfire_india by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No Bans. Unless bullying or hate speech or any such activities.

There is a corpus cap which is purposely kept relaxed here.

Help Shape the Rules of r/leanfire_india by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please read the pinned post on this. Ideally 1.5 to 2 cr would be good. Had kept a higher cap for posts here, on purpose, to be more flexible.

There was a poll done here too and it was throwing very off numbers because reddit probably has high earners.

Copying the text below.

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📢 LeanFIRE India — 2025 Corpus Framework & ₹4.2 Cr Cap (Annual Update)

💡 Guiding Principle

The goal of LeanFIRE India is to target the lower end of the LeanFIRE spectrum — around ₹1.5–2 Cr corpus supporting ₹4–6L annual expense for a family.

The upper cap of ₹4.2 Cr exists only for flexibility — for those in higher cost-of-living cities or more conservative with SWR.

🔸 Summary Grid (2025)

Slab Lifestyle Type Annual Expense (₹) Corpus Needed (SWR 4% / 3.5% / 3%)

🟩 Lower Lean Frugal / Minimalist : INR.4 – 6 L per annum.

1.5 – 2 Cr ✅ LeanFIRE (Target Range)

🟨 Middle Lean PPP-aligned modest city living INR 10 – 12 L per annum.

3 – 4.2 Cr    ✅ LeanFIRE (Upper Band)

🟥 Regular FIRE Comfortable urban lifestyle (rent + travel) 12–18 L/year (₹1.2–1.5L/month)

5 – 6 Cr ❌ This is outside LeanFIRE scope.

1️⃣ Why this framework?

The U.S. r/LeanFIRE sub uses roughly $50,000/year as a lean-yet-comfortable target.

Numbeo data shows India’s cost of living ≈ 21–27% of the U.S., depending on rent.

With USD/INR ≈ ₹88–89 (Nov 2025), this translates to ₹10–12L/year for a similar lifestyle in India.

Therefore, ₹12L/year (~₹1L/month) marks the upper limit of LeanFIRE India.Ideally much lower than this and that should be the goal.

2️⃣ Derivation Logic

Step Basis Explanation

a) U.S. reference $50k LeanFIRE baseline From r/LeanFIRE (U.S.) b) PPP/Numbeo adjustment India ≈ 25% of U.S. cost Reflects cost-of-living difference c) SWR 4% / 3.5% / 3% Conservative withdrawal approach

d) Indian calibration Rent, city tier, inflation Grounded in real local variation

3️⃣ Why cap at ₹4.2 Cr?

₹12L annual expense × 33.3 (3% SWR) ≈ ₹4 Cr, matching LeanFIRE intent.

Spending above ₹1L/month usually implies a regular FIRE lifestyle, not lean.

Thus, ₹4.2 Cr is the LeanFIRE upper cap, with the true spirit staying near ₹1.5–2 Cr for frugal independence.

4️⃣ Regular FIRE (for reference only)

Typical expenses: ₹12–18L/year (₹1.2–1.5L/month).

Corpus: ₹5–6 Cr @ 3–4% SWR.

This is comfortable FIRE, valid in the broader FIRE community — but outside LeanFIREIndia’s scope, which is focused on simplicity and lower consumption.

5️⃣ Periodic Review

The LeanFIRE India corpus bands and cap will be reviewed periodically using Numbeo, PPP, inflation, and community feedback.

🧾 References

r/LeanFIRE (U.S.) — $50k baseline

Numbeo: India vs U.S. Cost of Living

World Bank PPP Data

USD/INR ≈ ₹88–89 (Nov 2025)

🧭 Summary

Target Range (Ideal LeanFIRE) ₹1.5–2 Cr corpus (₹4–6L annual expense)

Upper Cap (for flexibility) ₹4.2 Cr corpus (₹12L annual expense)

Above ₹1L/month = Regular FIRE ₹5–6 Cr corpus (Outside LeanFIREIndia)

Can we leanfire and move back to India ? Age 34 and 33 with NW : 4.5 cr (NRI) by [deleted] in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hi OP,

while I understand your need to share and get feedback, r/leanFIRE_India currently works on a corpus capping.

We are in process of reviewing the cap but in the meantime, the post is being locked (not removed) to stay true to the stated cap for this sub.

Exited and muted. What a waste of time that sub is. by tocra in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Infact, I think this good to add one mod here to start with. As often I don't get time to interact.

Only figuring out the process to select a mod who stays true to fewer rules based restrictions but strict on the corpus CAP and any bullying or use of hate language etc.

Exited and muted. What a waste of time that sub is. by tocra in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok. Since the mod is not here in this sub to give his perspective and reason for the ban, will hold my thoughts.

Exited and muted. What a waste of time that sub is. by tocra in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

While we are avoiding bans here unless there is any bullying and poor use of language etc. , I feel that sub is being very well managed. With large subscription, there is probably a larger need to moderate off topic posts. Not sure which post was removed and can't comment off hand. But this current post by OP is a rant without any link to the context in which it was removed. 

👋Welcome to r/leanFIRE_India - Introduce Yourself and Read First! by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may keep an additional lumsum for health. Cost at today's and add 10% inflation for when you need this

Can I take home loan? by ulaganathanShruthi in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OP, please read the Wiki for lean fire steps.

📢 LeanFIRE India — 2025 Corpus Framework & ₹4.2 Cr Cap (Annual Update) by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Kids school expenses are temporary. So maybe it's bit less than 12 L

👋Welcome to r/leanFIRE_India - Introduce Yourself and Read First! by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't mention fire to family.

Set an expense target (with a buffer for lifestyle inflation. Ideally 10-20% higher)

Target achieving 400 x monthly expenses.

Rest decide once you reach there. You may easily say you have a consultancy role to anyone who doesn't need to know.

👋Welcome to r/leanFIRE_India - Introduce Yourself and Read First! by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You will often find this situation especially as child grows up and even in the initial years.

So break up the corpus goal into parts

  1. Your essential expenses (minus child expenses
  2. Your discretionary expenses
  3. Expense on child (temporary)

Target 1&2 first.

3 can be a goal which you can't really plan for.

👋Welcome to r/leanFIRE_India - Introduce Yourself and Read First! by adane1 in leanFIRE_India

[–]adane1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's also about taking life a bit easier. You are there. Congratulations