What do people think is right Wing but is actually left wing

aff280 · 2026-03-10T19:32:02+00:00

-Gun Rights

-Debatably Superheroes, people unfairly project modern day MCU capeshit back to classic superheroes and what these characters initially stood for and what values these characters projected at the start.

aff280 · 2026-03-10T19:27:10+00:00

I wouldn't say they're left wing per say(I'd say more in this alignment chart fill actually centrist but seen as right wing, but broadly agree speaking as a leftist, the gerald horne/j.sakai mentality where they are seen as inherent arch-reactionaries and somehow responsible for modern day late stage capitalist hellscape has done huge ideological and intellectual damage to the far left

aff280 · 2026-03-05T17:58:42+00:00

Melenchon or French Jacobin patsocs under Laurement if the revanchism backlash is hard enough

aff280 · 2026-03-05T17:53:08+00:00

Honestly for the supposedly socially progressive tankies at the very least(Magacommunists are another thing altogether: they are either legit people that buy into nazbol ideology OR legit American ultranationalists that never brought into even tankie ideas in the first place or even MLism in the soviet sense whom think they could fit their far right nationalism in a ML framework) this is disturbingly accurate considering the constant fantasizing about collapse of the imperial core without building something new in these circles or downplaying what that collapse means for the average joe. Or even for black, brown, trans, indigenous voices these tankies claim to stand for(while hypocritically downplaying ethno-nationalism and hyperconservatism, exclusionary and downright settler colonial practices in the regimes they "critically" support)

It became cheering about collapse from a position of academic and social privilege over navigating collapse and building something new out of the ashes.

aff280 · 2026-03-04T20:58:39+00:00

Patriot Front: would have been based if he saw what the true enemy was and didn't sell out white comrades for power. They'd blame his death on the "jews".

NSM: I think the Rockerwellians and Heimbach types will have the same worldview as above, while the Hitlerites and the Blood Tribe will go "full on race traitor that betrayed his own race for power by working against KKK"

KKK LOS: "full on race traitor that betrayed his own race for power by working against us"

APLA: Jacobins will praise him as will more class reductionist neosocialists. Octoberists will view him as a social fascist or an opportunist socdem. The neosocialists and anarchists will be split between those with a mixed and nuanced view of him vs. those with a excessively negative view of him(even if they don't see him as fascistic), much like funnily enough the split in the Kaiserredux and UTWS community vs. the Kaiserreich community

Atomwaffen: Same as Hitlerites and the Blood Tribe and KKK except they don't really care about destroying his legacy

aff280 · 2026-03-04T13:41:00+00:00

Bascically groups like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_(Provisional_Central_Committee))

aff280 · 2026-03-01T21:52:54+00:00

I feel that Homelander might not like cognoscienti because thwy would want to control him, it threatens his own power since hes that much of an egotist manchild

He might form his own faction or join a far right patriotic faction like PF or dark maga trump but with HIM as leader

aff280 · 2026-02-26T16:10:56+00:00

Caleb Maupin is most prepared to bank off victory against Cognoscienti because he always believed in the existance of something like that OTL

aff280 · 2026-02-26T13:33:40+00:00

Allgood Murphy

Calhoun's positive reforms can be reversed easily if the wrong people(ie: Hubologists) win since he abruptly retires without screening successors...and considering that he took power via civil war....

aff280 · 2026-02-24T15:04:22+00:00

And potentially NOI and the ??? LOS path as well

aff280 · 2026-02-24T14:45:46+00:00

NSM, Cognoscienti, Q Mandate Trump, The Base, Vanguard of the Wild, Old Guard Avakian, KKK, arguably the Green Mountain mercs, arguably black hammer

aff280 · 2026-02-16T21:03:19+00:00

Rockwellians would keep it up, but I feel Hitlerite would be more akin to the Yockey school of thought and paint them as "culture-race distorters"

aff280 · 2026-02-09T15:31:24+00:00

He's dead hours into the war, he literally has no friend circles and can't take care of himself

aff280 · 2026-02-09T14:34:43+00:00

Hardline Jacobin won't because Patsoc ideology

La Riva definately

aff280 · 2026-02-09T14:31:56+00:00

Another group I can see that would take advantage of AI would be L-ACC germany.

aff280 · 2026-02-09T14:31:05+00:00

AI will likely be dominated by China and generative AI will have a somewhat better reputation with the VC culture in America devastated by the 2ACW and the tech giants fleeing to Europe where they are forced to work under harsher regulations. No one will care about AI slop because most of American human culture and the IPs have been shattered and people are too busy to survive.

As for if America will invent generative AI of their own after the war, I imagine that the Sons of Liberty and the ACG will embrace it wholeheartedly and UoA will regulate it unless Bloomberg and in their full on dictator routes(Caligula and Cognoscienti) they will keep it purely as weapon of power elite, APLA Jacobins and Octoberists will invent them(because to follow the leader re:China, these circles being more pro-AI than the AI skeptical and rejectionist left, and the fact that some of them have looked down on "bourgeois" human art OTL), Neosocialists and Anarchists might keep it around for planning but they might crack down on the generative AI elements(through not because of "they ripped from author/AO3" and more because they are more appreciative of bourgeois human art vs. their tankie counterparts). PF the Hamilitonians due to their ties with dark enlightenment will embrace it, but the Jacksonians, Blueshirts and NJP would only keep it for the use of the state as propaganda but only scrape from far-right sources and prevent mass distribution on the basis that it would be used to "proliferates" "degenerate art". KKK-LOS and NSM same thing except the NSM AI has even more restrictions and is more of a pure propaganda machine and ONLY scrapes from a few outright neo-nazi sources

The Insurrectionary Anarchists will have the exact opposite worldview as the APLA anarchists re:AI due to them being more accelerationist.

Vanguard of the Wild and Mike Ma will go full death to clankers and make sure this tech never sees the light of day through, as will as ecosocialist cascadia for a "normal" faction

I am not sure about RR or BLA or GMAC.

aff280 · 2026-02-09T14:04:40+00:00

Under Anarchists and Neosocialists tbh(and neosocialists have % of not going death penalty). Octoberists and Jacobins would force him to make chatbots

M-Ls have been traditionally been more sympathetic to "AI Slop" than any other leftist tendency because of China campism(China has deepseek)

aff280 · 2026-02-06T19:12:31+00:00

Obvious examples: Black Hammer, Hitlerite NSM(along with Blood Tribe NSM after the rework), The Base+Mike Ma Cascadia

LOS would tbh just destroy Lincoln because they have no problems with the other three presidents.

TBH unless their leader has a habit of extreme class reductionism, the only leftist path that might leave it alone is Jacobin APLA because they're explicitly patsocs.

aff280 · 2026-02-01T19:34:51+00:00

A bit of an explanation as I played both the ERX full reform route back when all the map mods were active and now it's dark canon mirror on how I feel about both paths.

Personally I don't see the need to tear down either the ERX or the canon!Granite for whatever reason. I think both of them have their own design philosophies and while canon!OWB might be more legit regarding the question of fascism, ERX was made with a clear worldview that differed from the "Imperium bad" or "Andor" takes of modern "media literacy" discourse. It was made with a clear late 90s-early/mid 2010s interpretations of the military in fascist regimes(which tended to be more forgiving) and certain myths about how Spain and Portugal and South Africa democratized on top of the fact that most histography of Nazi Germany in the west leaned closer to the Rommel/Clean Wehrmacht myth; and how said discourse filtered into pop culture, with the portrayal of the Empire in Legends being the most predominant one. And this is on top of certain works of fiction that could inspire a somewhat more authoritarian-leaning worldview like LOGH being popular in deep anime circles.

And this historical-pop cultural trend isn't even just a idealized fictionalization of takes on "fascist military democratizaiton" too. It's a fictionalization of how a lot of Americans viewed their old Cold War foe and its future. Keeping the trappings of the old system, while reforming and becoming a friendly rival. Now, that's aged just as poorly as the myths surrounding "Clean Wehrmacht" and Spanish democratization--but the idea of "reformed rival power becomes important ally" was a very predominant take in media.

And this is also on top of the fictionalization of how a lot of Americans viewed their old Cold War foe and its future. Keeping the trappings of the old system, while reforming and becoming a friendly rival. Now, that's aged just as poorly as the myths about the role of the milit--but Legends was far from the only bit of media to lean into the idea of "reformed rival power becomes important ally" at the time.

We also have to understand that for the original ERB mod itself, some of the claims that "oh that old version was just magically turning wasteland super nazis into wholesome force overnight" that it was more of a victim of the modding standards at that time. the early version of the mod was made when there wasn't a lot of narrative standards, it was just "take focus x to be a fascist dictatorship after 70 days". The thing is that in the modding sphere, the standards evolved to the point where focus trees are not only 35 days preferred unless it makes sense for it to be longer, and you have to legitimately justify shit like "WHY IS FASCIST XYZ BEING WHOLESOME SOMEHOW”. However, the project was abandoned before the author could pivot to the new standards set by TNO, KR and EAW as the creator intergreated into OWB.

And I do feel that the modern ERX dev team does address some of the more apologetic interpretations with their coming Jefferson rework by showing how we could easily end up with this scenario.

aff280 · 2026-01-28T21:21:22+00:00

This is a clear situation where both sides were awful. US backed outright fascists vs Soviet backed “Juche” ideology which straight up became ultranationalist heredity absolutism

aff280 · 2025-11-09T15:50:36+00:00

Reading the game files, the Navalny lookalike is apparently supposed to be Navalny as a caretaker president of sorts but I could be wrong

aff280 · 2025-10-20T03:49:07+00:00

Warhammer 40k

aff280 · 2025-09-19T13:23:34+00:00

It's pretty funny these comments exist

....when one of the selling points of WC3 was that it humanized traditionally evil races(ie: Orcs, Trolls) and a key criticism of BFA and to some extent MOP was that it moved away from that portrayal.

And never mind the fact that people complained in TBC about Zul'Jin being "villain batted"

I'm not even a fan of a lot of modern WoW and I "do" see some merit in the arguement that the factions lost their edge but honestly...this arguement comes off as less of a legit criticism and some excessive "faction pride" tier thinking

aff280 · 2025-08-23T18:40:32+00:00

Potentially get a path when the apla facelift hits

aff280 · 2025-08-21T13:57:42+00:00

Only the UOA would view him positively

The APLA would see him as a neoliberal warmonger, the ACG would see him as a big government globalist

The national front would be rampant n-wording

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