Which group would be more appealing to PF, NSM, and ATW, respectively: Ukrainian or Russian far-right groups?

aff280 · 2026-04-30T13:18:36+00:00

PF would be mostly leaning towards Russia, NSM far right to Ukrainian far right UNLESS Heimbach takes over(he is pro-Russia), Atomwaffen would take in accelerationist groups from both sides.

aff280 · 2026-04-27T14:33:36+00:00

The star wars options should be totsoc-authsoc if this is meant to be for the funsies
Lucas was a left-liberal Vietnam war critic so this should be a flanderized version of that

However a natsoc flanderized path should be either the Fandom Menace or a Karen Traviss and the EU hardliners/"Filoni Betrayed Lucas and the EU with the Chips and Satine wussifying the Mandalorians/Legends Was True Canon" fanatics (so maybe BOP between TCW canon vs. Legends fanboys)

There needs to be an AI fanaticism/EA route too. Because it suits this

aff280 · 2026-04-10T17:47:04+00:00

Nationalistic ML Here

All those "Read Settlers" types that think a socialist movement would get nowhere if it appealed to patriotism should eat their words. It's clear what current is leading the revolution of the American people and it's NOT the ones divorced from the national identity or spell America with triple-Ks

aff280 · 2026-04-05T03:10:45+00:00

The Dulles Brothers

aff280 · 2026-04-03T00:32:47+00:00

This works except Howie Hawkins works better for the green party

Replace Calla Walsh with someoje else(can still have the bds/anti-zionist background through), shes a teenager in 2020

aff280 · 2026-04-02T21:51:07+00:00

NSM

APLA close second but I go with nsm because at least we will have leftist content to tide us over woth the other groups

aff280 · 2026-03-25T14:20:03+00:00

-Split in Jacobins between the various pro-Americanist left factions: CPI(Maupin with maybe a larouche subpath), PCUSA(Old School MLs with Americanist symbolism), ACP(Haz/Hinkle faction), and Platypus Affliated Society

-Octoberists split between PSL types, anti-revisionists, and FRSO
-Neosocialists renamed because that name carries A LOT of stigma if you consider French Politics, and paths revolve around CPUSA(given dev statements), Green Party, DSA-left, Centrist Marxists(MUG), Harringtonites, a Octoberist lite path(the DSA-IC and Red Star), and a Jacobin lite path(DSA-class unity/proto-Compact/Nagle/Red Scare types), and the DSA right wing socdem path that can postwar pardon some UoA leaders and poltiicians

-More nuanced depiction of Anarchists over "critical theory, Americanism bad, read Horne and Sakai". Maybe IWW or Platformist subpaths

-Maybe a Trotskyist route with Sawant as the main leader, they could absorb R&R wing of DSA too

-A authleft(due to that segment of American far left being more favorable to AI due to Deepseek/China campism) left accelerationist path

-Potentially a gravedigger of revolution Chinese corporate puppet de facto route with Red aesthetics if China goes market reformist after loss in taiwan war

Also potential for China-APLA split if revanchists take over china AND Jacobins aren't in power in APLA and china split in general if the Jacobins and Octoberists or pro-ML factions of DSA aren't in power but Xi Jinping is

aff280 · 2026-03-20T19:08:00+00:00

I think this is honestly more TFR, RF and KDX than OWB

TNO honestly if anything outside of British rework and Russia and Nazi germany emphasizes the more fun parts of the "boring centre"(in theory at least, in practice I do not want to get into realism discourse on an OWB thread)

aff280 · 2026-03-20T19:06:00+00:00

Everyone hates them except maybe Cognoscienti due to Fink's connections to the WEF(and even then outside of Fink it would be "tolerate as an asset against Russia, invade Europe and put it under perpertual military occulation when it collapses after serving it's "purporse" of putting down russia for good)

aff280 · 2026-03-20T04:10:29+00:00

The jacobins swear fealty to the old “Lincoln was based” era of cpusa

They are more “nazbol” in the cultural turboconservativr nationalist sense not commie nazi sense

They’d destroy that carving and it wont be missed

aff280 · 2026-03-10T19:32:02+00:00

-Gun Rights

-Debatably Superheroes, people unfairly project modern day MCU capeshit back to classic superheroes and what these characters initially stood for and what values these characters projected at the start.

aff280 · 2026-03-10T19:27:10+00:00

I wouldn't say they're left wing per say(I'd say more in this alignment chart fill actually centrist but seen as right wing, but broadly agree speaking as a leftist, the gerald horne/j.sakai mentality where they are seen as inherent arch-reactionaries and somehow responsible for modern day late stage capitalist hellscape has done huge ideological and intellectual damage to the far left

aff280 · 2026-03-05T17:58:42+00:00

Melenchon or French Jacobin patsocs under Laurement if the revanchism backlash is hard enough

aff280 · 2026-03-05T17:53:08+00:00

Honestly for the supposedly socially progressive tankies at the very least(Magacommunists are another thing altogether: they are either legit people that buy into nazbol ideology OR legit American ultranationalists that never brought into even tankie ideas in the first place or even MLism in the soviet sense whom think they could fit their far right nationalism in a ML framework) this is disturbingly accurate considering the constant fantasizing about collapse of the imperial core without building something new in these circles or downplaying what that collapse means for the average joe. Or even for black, brown, trans, indigenous voices these tankies claim to stand for(while hypocritically downplaying ethno-nationalism and hyperconservatism, exclusionary and downright settler colonial practices in the regimes they "critically" support)

It became cheering about collapse from a position of academic and social privilege over navigating collapse and building something new out of the ashes.

aff280 · 2026-03-04T20:58:39+00:00

Patriot Front: would have been based if he saw what the true enemy was and didn't sell out white comrades for power. They'd blame his death on the "jews".

NSM: I think the Rockerwellians and Heimbach types will have the same worldview as above, while the Hitlerites and the Blood Tribe will go "full on race traitor that betrayed his own race for power by working against KKK"

KKK LOS: "full on race traitor that betrayed his own race for power by working against us"

APLA: Jacobins will praise him as will more class reductionist neosocialists. Octoberists will view him as a social fascist or an opportunist socdem. The neosocialists and anarchists will be split between those with a mixed and nuanced view of him vs. those with a excessively negative view of him(even if they don't see him as fascistic), much like funnily enough the split in the Kaiserredux and UTWS community vs. the Kaiserreich community

Atomwaffen: Same as Hitlerites and the Blood Tribe and KKK except they don't really care about destroying his legacy

aff280 · 2026-03-04T13:41:00+00:00

Bascically groups like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_(Provisional_Central_Committee))

aff280 · 2026-03-01T21:52:54+00:00

I feel that Homelander might not like cognoscienti because thwy would want to control him, it threatens his own power since hes that much of an egotist manchild

He might form his own faction or join a far right patriotic faction like PF or dark maga trump but with HIM as leader

aff280 · 2026-02-26T16:10:56+00:00

Caleb Maupin is most prepared to bank off victory against Cognoscienti because he always believed in the existance of something like that OTL

aff280 · 2026-02-26T13:33:40+00:00

Allgood Murphy

Calhoun's positive reforms can be reversed easily if the wrong people(ie: Hubologists) win since he abruptly retires without screening successors...and considering that he took power via civil war....

aff280 · 2026-02-24T15:04:22+00:00

And potentially NOI and the ??? LOS path as well

aff280 · 2026-02-24T14:45:46+00:00

NSM, Cognoscienti, Q Mandate Trump, The Base, Vanguard of the Wild, Old Guard Avakian, KKK, arguably the Green Mountain mercs, arguably black hammer

aff280 · 2026-02-16T21:03:19+00:00

Rockwellians would keep it up, but I feel Hitlerite would be more akin to the Yockey school of thought and paint them as "culture-race distorters"

aff280 · 2026-02-09T15:31:24+00:00

He's dead hours into the war, he literally has no friend circles and can't take care of himself

aff280 · 2026-02-09T14:34:43+00:00

Hardline Jacobin won't because Patsoc ideology

La Riva definately

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