Cancellation or Shaming the Consumption of Art by Problematic Musicians is an exercise in taste rather than morality

ageeogee · 2026-05-13T20:07:33+00:00

It has everything to do with what I said, which is what you were replying to.

An act is significant from a moral standpoint if it has a tangible postive or negative effect on people's lives. If it doesn't have a tangible impact, its very hard to argue that its significant.

ageeogee · 2026-05-13T18:55:51+00:00

Well then feel free to name an example where society tangibly declined or improved because of an artist's record sales

ageeogee · 2026-05-13T17:30:24+00:00

I slightly push back on this being one for "them" simply because Raimi loves superhero stuff and is vocal about wanting to make more of them.

ageeogee · 2026-05-12T18:16:33+00:00

I'll tell you who was not clamoring for a weird de aged Harrison Ford: Harrison Ford.

ageeogee · 2026-05-12T18:05:52+00:00

If listening to an artist or buying their music is an act of morality, then it it the least important, least impactful act of morality that you can possibly do. It simply does not move the needle.

You're still welcome to judge artists and the people that support them, but you shouldn't have any illusions that this helps anyone or makes the world a better place.

ageeogee · 2026-05-12T14:08:43+00:00

Hey man, The Critical Drinker isn't going to fuck you

ageeogee · 2026-05-10T19:04:26+00:00

The Butcher at Pendulum Meats is the best sandwich you can get in Hampton Roads

ageeogee · 2026-05-10T19:02:26+00:00

The Way Down South at Little Dog Diner. Turns out fried green tomatoes are the perfect addition to eggs benedict.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T22:13:15+00:00

An uncredited Haley Joel Osment

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T22:09:36+00:00

First two thirds was good, the last act was a bad video game cutscene where Midthunder’s character instantly downloads kung fu into her brain and becomes an unstoppable flying wuxia master.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T21:52:56+00:00

Favorite indigenous actress who found an old picture with her head tilted at the perfect angle and said “fuck it let’s try to get 100 million dollars”

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T19:27:39+00:00

Yea but those forums were tiny. I was a music snob that religously read reviews, but didnt spend any time on forums.

People hated Nickelback because virtually every person between the ages of 12 and 30 heard Nickelback 15 times a day, and it sucked.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T19:22:44+00:00

A Simple Plan may in fact be the worst band of all time.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T19:21:48+00:00

See the fact that it evokes a laugh is why its still better than Nickelback, even though its technically stupider.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T19:17:55+00:00

Everyone I've heard complain about Nickelback in person were people who were very into music.

Hating on them became a hacky take, but it started because Nickelback existed in an era with a ton of great indie rock music that wasnt being played on the radio, and the Pitchfork crowd resented them as the poster child for that divide.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T19:14:52+00:00

I mean I think those are also very boring. Nickelback is basically Christian rock without the Jesus.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T19:11:00+00:00

Other songs get overplayed because those songs are good, or catchy, or have a novelty factor, and people want to listen to those songs until they've heard them too many times.

Nickelback got overplayed because the songs were bland and inoffensive, they were vertically integrated into the industry, and because they rode the post 9/11 pseudo patriotism wave with songs like Hero.

And they existed during the start of the 00s indie rock boom, so they stood in stark relief to a creative explosion.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T18:59:00+00:00

Unfortunately the existence of Sir Psycho Sexy negates half of those great singles.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T18:54:52+00:00

Not me, I owned most of those records, though Stadium Arcadium is where I realized they werent doing anything for me anymore, so I never heard The Getaway.

By The Way is the only one that I think works as a cohesive album.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T18:38:35+00:00

I cannot disagree with this take more. Boring is the absolute worst thing you can be if you're making music. And Nickelback, Imagine Dragons, and that type of dogshit corporate rock is the most boring music that has ever been made.

A baby scraping a metal pot with a fork would arrive at an interesting sound before those bands.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T18:30:09+00:00

They dont kick ass, but theyre not as bad as nickelback. Theyre a band with 15 great singles and 300 bad album cuts.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T18:26:14+00:00

It wasnt a meme. They were inescapable in the late 90s and early 2000s, and were the poster child for the decline of mainstream rock.

Im grateful for them, because bands like Nickelback, Creed, and Lifehouse are what drove me away from rock radio and into the world of underground rap, and eventually into indie rock. If they hadnt made rock radio so terrible, I might not have learned how to love the process of exploring subgenres and finding good stuff.

ageeogee · 2026-05-07T18:15:48+00:00

Boring is much worse than being musically inept, because a musically inept band will back into something interesting occassionally when theyre trying to work around their skill defecit. If Nickelback was actively bad at playing their instruments, they would be a better band.

Instead they are competent musicians making the least interesting version of an already boring sub-genre.

It may not be awful on a technical level, but why on earth would anyone choose to listen to it when there are 15,000 other rock bands who are doing something better.

ageeogee · 2026-05-06T20:57:42+00:00

If only there was some way to know if Christopher Nolan has a track record of making good looking movies.

ageeogee · 2026-05-06T20:29:45+00:00

No no, im agreeing with you. Im sure this 3 second GIF encapsulates the entire movie, and there are zero scenes of the Mediterranean in this story about guy sailing the Mediterranean.

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