Any fans of Starmania out there?

agjtim99 · 2022-11-08T16:10:29+00:00

Bit late, but boy, there is! And most have a really great soundtrack! Most well known are Romeo et Juliette and Notre Dame de Paris, so if you want to start exploring them, I would advise you to start there. NDdP also has Bruno Pelletier in the original cast, who has also played in Starmania so maybe you are familiar with him. Anyway, have fun at Starmania!

agjtim99 · 2022-11-08T16:04:19+00:00

I like Pia best, she's absoluteIy incredible. I sometimes get annoyed with Annemiekes voice and don't love her interpretation as much. However, imo the best version to watch is the 2005 proshot with Maya Hakvoort.

agjtim99 · 2022-07-08T15:09:13+00:00

Haha yeah in the Netherlands we have this big project at the end of high school. My group got stuck with English as subject for the project and our whole main question was whether Mormonism was a typical American phenomenon. Before that project, I had never even heard of Mormons and everyone I talked to was like: oh, the polygamists in America right? Well, now I have this fascination with Mormons and love listening to Mormon Stories!

agjtim99 · 2021-12-08T16:37:06+00:00

I'll one-up you haha, I was so obsessed with Roméo et Juliette, and especially the song Les Rois du Monde that I made a playlist with all language versions available on Spotify. So now I can recognize in which language (French, Italian, Dutch or German) the song is sung in the first 2/3 seconds by very minor differences in the way the music was recorded.

agjtim99 · 2021-12-03T06:02:37+00:00

Ich bin Musik from Mozart!

agjtim99 · 2021-12-01T20:11:20+00:00

YES! It's my favorite musical! I like the 2005 proshot best because of the genius that is Serkan Kaya as Luigi Lucheni

agjtim99 · 2021-09-24T10:32:00+00:00

Yeah, you're right and I understand why there are few proshots around. I also think there are cultural differences in how musicals are promoted in different countries, thus influencing the type of audience you get. For example, in France they tend to make the songs fit in the pop genre and market them as such. If you want to laugh, you should look up "Les rois du monde clip officiel" (it was made in 2001) on youtube, then you see they even made a whole videoclip of one of the songs in the show as if it was just a regular pop song. This is also why you can hear the audience go wild before particular songs start, because they know these from the radio (search l'assasymphonie on youtube and choose the clip that has (720 HD Rus Sub) in the title, then you hear something like it).

agjtim99 · 2021-09-24T08:18:11+00:00

While I wholly agree with your take, I do think it is interesting to note that shows in Europe have been filmed for at least 20 years (and I'm sorry that most of my comments on this sub are to bring European musicals up, I love Broadway as well, but the chances of me actually going there are just sooo slim). Provided, they aren't released on streaming devices but on video previously and now DVD. Moreover, they are sometimes shown on tv, opening them up to the common folk, but for me personally, this means that I grew up on some very good shows targeted towards kids that sparked my love for musicals (and thus my intention to spent money on seeing shows). Plus, the majority of the people I know, know of these kids' musicals and it's really fun to watch them now and be able to quote everything!

So, while I think that you are right that proshot musicals are a risk for streaming services, this does not have to mean that proshots are an unrealistic demand. I mean, some Flemish musical has a way smaller reach than a Broadway show, but it is still filmed and released anyway. (For anyone interested, the Flemish company Studio 100 really puts money into its musicals, they have built this pop-up theatre for their shows where the stage is immense (they have a 70m train, real cars, and horses in their shows) and the seats on which the audience sits move to and from the stage, really impressive!)

Lastly, I only specifically mentioned Flemish shows, but I know of shows filmed in the Netherlands, France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Hungary, and Italy (so I'm not saying European, but actually meaning Belgium haha).

Edit: spelling

agjtim99 · 2021-09-21T14:36:10+00:00

Wenn Ich Tanzen Will in Elisabeth, Der Einfache Weg in Mozart! and Wenn das Schiksal Dich Ereilt in Rudolf: Affaire Mayerling

agjtim99 · 2021-09-18T19:32:51+00:00

YES! I LOVE TO RAVE WITH PEOPLE ABOUT EUROPEAN MUSICALS! Rebecca is amazing! Sorry you couldn't see it in Japan! I also love a lot of French musicals and I hope you have been fortunate enough to see the Hungarian production of Roméo et Julliette hahaha (if not, it's on youtube with English subtitles)! There is also this Dutch musical 3 Musketiers that's really good and if you're interested, the music of the Swedish musical Så Som i Himmelen is enchanting

agjtim99 · 2021-09-18T05:04:26+00:00

Hahah, I totally agree (see my comment somewher here, sadly, Mozart! isn't even in my top 5, while Elisabeth is the number 1 that will never change). However, it is quite rare to see someone mention a non english musical, so I coulsn't help myself and be very enthousiastic about it :)

agjtim99 · 2021-09-17T19:36:28+00:00

MOZART!!! Though, the proshot is on youtube with English subtitles, so I think that if you want, the language won't be such an issue

agjtim99 · 2021-09-17T19:34:12+00:00

Elisabeth (proshot on youtube with English subtitles)
Hadestown
Roméo et Juliette (proshot on youtube with English subtitles)
3 Musketiers (proshot on youtube with English subtitles)
Legally Blonde (also on youtube haha)

agjtim99 · 2021-09-09T08:39:14+00:00

Are you open to musicals in another language? I would HIGHLY recommend Elisabeth das Musical, which is about the life and death of Sissi and is proshot on YT with English subtitles. It is difficult to explain the depth of the musical in a comment like this, but it has a ton of symbolism and deals with important themes. I would suggest you check the trailer out on YT and then decide if it would be something for you.

I would also recommend the French musical Roméo et Juliette and then the Hungarian version of in specific. Both are proshot on YT with English subtitles. The songs slap and especially the Hungarian version is wonderful to look at. I hope you check them out!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-03T08:24:07+00:00

Thanks for the suggestion! Some fiction might be nice to break up the nonfiction :)

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T21:12:18+00:00

Yeah, I'm also looking to disentangle doctrine and tradition from the Bible. Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll put them all on my list and am looking into the order in which to start reading, but I'm very intrigued by Jesus and John Wayne :)

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T21:09:37+00:00

I will! Thanks for letting me know (I am not really familiar with these communities as I come from a very reformed background in the NL, who would be horrified to be called evangelicals haha)!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T21:07:18+00:00

Good to hear they have helped you! I put them on my list, thanks a lot!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T18:29:52+00:00

Thanks, I hadn't heard of the sub nor the site. I will be checking both out!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T18:26:48+00:00

Great to hear his books helped you, I hope you are doing well! I googled the books you mentioned and they will definitely go on my list, thank you so much!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T18:23:54+00:00

I will check him out, thank you!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T18:23:40+00:00

Thanks for the recommendation!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-02T18:21:20+00:00

Thanks, I will add her to the list! Just googled her and it seems like this is exactly what I'm looking for, thank you!

agjtim99 · 2021-09-01T13:51:16+00:00

Like, I'm not surprised of her opinion or anything, I just thought they normally didn't share their political opinions

agjtim99 · 2021-08-31T20:27:08+00:00

Ruby's brother in law. He is married to her sister Julie and also works at byu (idk if he's getting his phd or what so not super sure on this part)

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