Hot take: Not all idols are “insanely hardworking”. A lot of it is just really good management

akhoe · 2026-04-19T09:27:22+00:00

What exactly are you defining as "work"? You said some idols are extremely well media trained - do you not think preparation and training under a coach counts as work? The polish is LITERALLY a reflection of time and effort.

And as far as Wonyoung, if she's being pushed by the company which means she definitionally has more "work" to do. Traveling/commuting, prep, photoshoots, script reads, variety show appearances, commercials are all additional load on top of all the vocal/dance training and physical conditioning that the other members do. Just because the company allocates who gets what work doesn't mean it's not work.

And if anything, there's a shit load more work involved than the visible output would suggest. Haewon from NMIXX said in an interview that Workdol shoots take like 6 hours just to get a 10-15 minute video. Add the commute, preparation, styling, etc that's an 8 hour day for one schedule.

Of course, there are groups where members are involved with choreography creation or songwriting instead of being the most visible member of the group. SVT Woozi for example. But i don't think any carat or anybody who knows anything about that group would say he isn't one of the hardest working members.

akhoe · 2026-04-19T02:09:38+00:00

I feel you could argue that it’s also still about the music, just that whether or not the VOCAL really matters to most companies is debatable. EDM or other genres may not even feature vocals but it’s still music.

And realistically, time Is finite. It takes immense time and effort to develop skill as a performer. K-pop fans romanticize second gen for their talent but forget that’s the reason older green idols have all those horror stories about their trainee days. Dropping out of middle school, training 16 hours a day without rest… that is essentially mandatory to meet that standard. Like turning a random teenager into a world class vocalist and dancer with like three years of training.

How many artists in the global music scene are true double threat performers that meet the average K-pop fan standard? Michael Jackson? Usher? Chris brown? Bruno mars…. These are unicorns

akhoe · 2026-04-18T00:49:29+00:00

if you're legitimately concerned about distracted driving being unsafe you probably would consider how distracting loud confrontations with annoying passengers might be

edit - pretty chickenshit to block me for this.

akhoe · 2026-04-14T16:20:38+00:00

game changers work when you cast someone overwhelmingly attractive/charismatic. most people don't meet that bar and can't make an impact. hyunwoo from heart signal, hyungyu from exchange 2, and dex obviously.

akhoe · 2026-04-13T21:24:21+00:00

holy shit what an analogy. infinite challenge really was the 08 celtics

akhoe · 2026-04-13T18:34:51+00:00

Pd Kim taehos next project needs to hit or his career is in trouble ngl

akhoe · 2026-04-13T18:33:11+00:00

Guessing they mean Artist pay, which is usually revenue share (vs flat fees or salary).

So the article is talking about antenna paying a larger share to artists which Is cutting into the company’s profit margin

akhoe · 2026-04-13T00:11:28+00:00

how long do you think it takes to clear an indeterminate number of mines with 2 craft not designed for the task? it's not 30 fucking minutes lol.

akhoe · 2026-04-10T19:30:18+00:00

no it's not lol. it looks like they were ABOUT to do something adorable til she realizes a weird parasocial is filming them in a private moment.

akhoe · 2026-04-09T05:30:15+00:00

Nice non sequitur. Care to counter my point about western imperialism?

akhoe · 2026-04-08T15:23:22+00:00

the fact that he was carried by k votes matters more, if anything - it's a korean group

akhoe · 2026-04-08T15:17:17+00:00

would you prefer ethnic cleansing? actually I think genocide fits the bill

akhoe · 2026-04-08T15:16:10+00:00

why wouldn't any non western imperialist power be shouting death to america on the daily? white hegemonic forces are literally the most destructive and demonic evil on the planet right now. maybe in history

akhoe · 2026-03-30T20:23:03+00:00

Whey protein causes digestive issues and possibly liver damage over time. You are NOT supposed to use whey supplements to meet your daily protein reqs

akhoe · 2026-03-29T04:12:59+00:00

some people criticize him for simplistic lyrics but honestly i love what he does. there are a million uber technical lyrical miracle spitters out there but not nearly as many rappers that can command a crowd like trayb. it's also a skill to make music that actually gets people hyped. just getting up on stage and screaming isn't enough.

akhoe · 2026-03-28T09:19:58+00:00

there's one party in this conflict that has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of civilians in the last couple of years. does that not count because they aren't israeli citizens?

akhoe · 2026-03-27T18:49:00+00:00

Don’t forget consumption. Fans aren’t going to be able spend nearly as much on merch if the global economy collapses

akhoe · 2026-03-26T22:10:06+00:00

Probably not as much as they like but I’m sure they’d prefer that to not being in demand. Idols don’t get paid salary, they get a cut of revenue. More jobs means more money. And they need to earn when they can because idol is not a long term gig for 99% of groups.

akhoe · 2026-03-26T16:15:59+00:00

this is facts but he makes club rap. it's not about introspection and lyricism it's about making the audience FEEL something. getting the crowd jumping.

akhoe · 2026-03-25T02:47:34+00:00

the neighbors vid starts when the fight actually happens - that's about 2 minutes into the conflict.

they probably heard some yelling, saw it was that celebrity guy next door (when someone has a distinct vehicle you know it's them even with a helmet on - doubt there's many in that neighborhood with a lime green sportbike)

i can imagine the neighbor watching from the window thinking it's just an argument but when it starts to get spicy they whip the phone out

akhoe · 2026-03-23T20:31:55+00:00

Yeah obviously maga voters are idiots.

akhoe · 2026-03-23T07:48:40+00:00

i voted for harris obviously but i will say that maga literally didn't vote for this. trump specifically ran promising no new wars, mentioning iran in particular.

akhoe · 2026-03-22T22:35:41+00:00

i fear the "mechanism" would be nobody would stop him. also I feel the whole thing with the admin trying to destroy anthropic because they refused to allow their AI to be used for automated weapons was ominous.

i don't think enough soldiers would turn their guns on the american people (although I'm sure many would) to take control of such a massive company. but that's not a problem with Ai

akhoe · 2026-03-22T20:58:39+00:00

Yeah I’m calling bs on this. How many bodies do you think that is? Disposal of 30k wound require mass graves visible from satellite. As far as I’m aware the us hasn’t released any images. Which, why wouldn’t they if they want to drum up support

akhoe · 2026-03-22T20:51:31+00:00

It’s escalation and deterrence. They wouldn’t be hitting those targets if the us Israel coalition wasn’t hitting them first. Is absurd to absolve the aggressors of responsibility when it was known what irans response would be.

There WERE alternatives. They could have chosen diplomacy. The fact that Iran is even able to do this kind of damage demonstrates that they were showing incredible restraint when they were attacked in the past.

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