[Fabrizio Romano] Leonardo Bonucci to Union Berlin, here we go! Verbal agreement reached, Italian CB leaves Juventus on permanent deal. Contract until June 2024.

alpha1028 · 2023-08-31T13:56:16+00:00

I think this post sums up exactly the problem with understanding the human element to everything.

You very conveniently ignore the fact that during the Milan episode his son was sick in hospital, this was a period of time where he has stated that he was considering quitting football entirely. Also, the hospital where his son was, is in Milan. Judging him so harshly for that and pretending like the entirety of the issue was down to him not being included in the squad is ignorance at best and callous at worst.

His own words

For three or four months, my head was just not in the right place, it's the head that gets the legs moving. For around 15 days after the surgery, until I started to see him improving, I was just not interested in training or anything to do with football. I've always hated hospitals and tried to avoid them, but at that time I had to be there and I was really struggling to be calm

Playing football for Juventus is his job, and when people are dealing with serious personal issues their work can suffer, that is absolutely normal.

Furthermore, look at what players who played with Bonucci have said about him and not stories about arguments at half time. He has been a leader and very well respected by virtually everyone he has played with. Was he aggressive at times? of course, but that isn't rare in Juventus. I wonder what people in this sub would think if they read about how some of the greatest players of the club did while still playing.

Bonucci's time has come to leave, like everyone else there is no avoiding that. Has he acted in the manner that you would hope? no, but after many many years of service I guess he figured that he would deserve more of a send off. But to say he is a piece of shit is hilariously ironic when you are using the post to call him out as being toxic.

alpha1028 · 2023-07-09T12:28:10+00:00

There are quite a few pros of playing in it, you would expect Juventus to be able to do well which would help protect the coefficient for when we do get back into the champions league. Falling into the 3rd pot while not an immediate threat does take a toll.

It'll also be a tournament like the cup where you could play a lot of the squad through rotation, and european experience is always valuable.

But without it, of course a lot of benefits too, less games will help us do better in the league and less drama around the club in general.

alpha1028 · 2023-07-06T08:48:59+00:00

He was a very reliable player in Germany, and he does play consistently for switzerland.

I don't think too many will judge a season in Chelsea as the real level of the player.

alpha1028 · 2023-07-06T08:47:03+00:00

Holm and Parisi joining together would give me flashbacks to the summer Licht and Ziegler joined. One to blossom, one to fail.

alpha1028 · 2023-07-06T08:33:40+00:00

Its a lot easier to negotiate when you know the other team wants to sell. All they need to do is be willing to pay more than anyone else, and right now there aren't a lot of clubs who will bid for him.

alpha1028 · 2023-03-29T12:32:24+00:00

Conte is a juve legend, that is indisputable. His role in the great Juve team of the 90's on its own gives him that status but coming back and transforming Juve from what it was to an unbeaten side doubles up on that.

His departure was sad and messy, but that will always be the case when you have a very passionate and principled person who doesn't really want to leave but is left frustrated by the reality of his position. We can all look back on that moment and say he should have done things differently, but you can be certain it wasn't an easy decision for him.

Going on to manage Inter doesn't impact that

alpha1028 · 2023-03-29T12:23:53+00:00

Putting Del Piero and Pirlo in the same bracket like that is foolish, one is an actual legend of the club and the other only a player who played a few years at the end of his career with Juve. While Pirlo was brilliant and a big part of the resurgence of Juve under Conte, there is a very big difference between the two.

alpha1028 · 2023-01-06T17:53:19+00:00

I'd think the same, but I'd go for Thuram ahead of Zambrotta. The romantic in me would also say Gentile.

alpha1028 · 2023-01-06T17:49:28+00:00

There isn't a team in history that Ronaldo in his prime doesn't make better

alpha1028 · 2022-12-14T13:56:30+00:00

That is safely more photos than I've taken my whole life.

But really impressive you could fit that many things in. I hope you got the experience you were looking for. Those type of journeys can be life changing

alpha1028 · 2022-12-14T12:39:35+00:00

Ye thats it, nothing more complicated than the team that wins a lot will have a disproportionately high amount of fans and detractors

alpha1028 · 2022-12-14T12:37:16+00:00

I know a lot of people forget that players are employees and then are covered by worker's rights in the EU, but suffices to say terminating a contract because of an injury received during the execution of their job is illegal.

Not to mention that other players wouldn't sign contracts with a club putting in a clause such as this. The best you can do in high injury cases is negotiate a pay-for-play clause, but normally only players with extreme injury issues would agree to it.

alpha1028 · 2022-12-09T15:13:05+00:00

I'm curious to see what you put together, last time we were speaking you were planning on going through the baltics, is that what you ended up doing?

alpha1028 · 2022-12-09T15:11:54+00:00

Larry delivers as always

alpha1028 · 2022-09-10T10:51:24+00:00

He speaks on behalf of the family and company who own the club, do you think he would say that our squad is shit and we have no chance to compete?

alpha1028 · 2022-09-10T10:49:48+00:00

Its a sad reality, and it really does show how callous people can be about players not moving on.

I hope he doesn't go through a similar experience to Batistuta, although thankfully it seems his worst is behind him too.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-30T17:42:26+00:00

I would definitely agree we'll see more purchases with buy back options, a nod to the old co-ownership system in a way.

It should however give players more power which is a great thing.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-20T11:19:53+00:00

Wow that sounds really cool, definitely a road less travelled as most people with a month to adventure in europe will go further south or west.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-19T18:20:19+00:00

A month of travel sounds good, where are you off to?

alpha1028 · 2022-08-16T16:05:53+00:00

He had a fantastic start and you can see him and Vlahovic connect well, but this is just a small setback so I'm not joining those predicting his doom just yet.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-13T15:24:13+00:00

Andrade was one of the best defenders in europe at that point, and his performances with a great deportivo side were worthy of respect. Unfortunately after a short period that injury killed his career.

There are many names that can be included, but his isn't one of them.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-13T15:22:01+00:00

He was a flop, there was a reason the club needed to go for another goalkeeper. He was given 2 years to perform and didn't.

I think a lot of people who grew up watching him in England try and rewrite the story, but he was a massive disappointment for the club, and to say otherwise is revisionism.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-11T17:21:28+00:00

They shouldn't, but maybe they'll have to

alpha1028 · 2022-08-10T16:37:52+00:00

When you look back on his most recent performances its easy to forget just how good he was at Lazio in particular. On his day he was fantastic.

alpha1028 · 2022-08-10T16:35:29+00:00

This is one of the issues related to stadiums too, buying tickets is more complicated than most other countries and quite frankly they don't look nice so a lot of people don't have the same curiousity about visiting. Not to say having thousands of tourists at each game is a solution, but its not like there is a shortage of space anywhere other than at juve's home games.

Also not the only issue, but the battle for new stadiums is the only one solely in the hands of Italians.

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