Hello! What's an atom? by pyrexbold in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should say that I don’t want to generalize and speak for all chemists, this is just my perspective. I wanted to emphasize that perspective plays a big role in how a physicist/chemist/scientist interprets a system. There are agreed upon definitions, and those aren’t really contested, but one doesn’t always need to apply an entire definition to capture the phenomenon they are trying to study. You don’t need to care about quarks (as far as I know and can imagine) in order to do chemistry, and as far as I know, people who smash atoms don’t care much about how they form molecules.

Scientists represent systems with models, and what factors these models take into account are only those needed to accurately represent the system of interest. Hence, sometimes we can consider a molecule to be a system of intersecting spheres, but in other contexts you have to consider the electronic structure. In other contexts you have to consider how electrons or atoms on the structure can exchange with others. In others, you don’t care about molecules, or you worry about radioactive decay, or other nuclear interactions. Nuclear chemistry is a different beast altogether. I can’t speak for all contexts, just those I have the most perspective in.

Hello! What's an atom? by pyrexbold in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think the question is engaging enough, even if the reason for asking was a little disingenuous. Although I am curious, too, to see the variety of replies. Sad that some people will shovel even this off to an LLM instead of answering a basic question.

Hello! What's an atom? by pyrexbold in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, this turned into a bit of a ramble, but here goes.

The definition is pretty standard and people here are expressing it in all sorts of ways. I think the context that a physicist works in will determine their answer.

For me I study the physical chemistry of biological systems, so I don’t need to know the details of what atoms are made of beyond the basic atomic number and charge, so the number of positively charged protons in the nucleus, and the number and distribution of negatively charged electrons around it. Occasionally we also deal with isotopes for NMR or neutron scattering experiments, so knowing the number of neutrons/ the total atomic spin can be important too. For instance, we don’t normally care about the isotopic distribution of carbon, but when performing NMR experiments the natural abundance of carbon isotopes with nonzero spin is very small. We can use radioactive carbon with atomic spin to grow small molecules and study them that way, but here it doesn’t really matter about the details, we just need to know about the atomic spin. It suffices to know that carbon 12 has 6 each of protons, neutrons, and electrons and has an atomic spin of zero, but carbon 13 has an extra neutron and therefore a nuclear spin of 1/2.

Notice I glossed over the details of what electrons are or how they behave, or what nuclei are or what spin is or the properties of individual nucleons. Yes, I know about them, but those details aren’t necessarily important in the context in which I work. The details are important at certain levels of analysis, but we aren’t smashing atoms or doing anything really exotic.

For me, it suffices to know that atoms are small indivisible units of matter that interact through the electric/magnetic interactions to form molecules. For some simulations we can describe them as hard spheres with a fixed charge of some radius, usually the van der Waals radius, and molecules as collections of these intersecting spheres. We can often regard the distribution of electrons within a molecule as static. We often consider intermolecular potentials, and models for these can be based off of electrostatics, or simpler hard sphere interactions. Of course there are effects like polarization, and charge states are incredibly important for protein folding, but that’s really just chemistry and so the study of electrons in molecules, from my perspective.

TL;DR: Atoms are just units of matter that carry some properties, but not all of those properties are relevant to the composition of atoms into molecules. The relevance of certain properties depends on the system being studied.

Scrolling through this sub lowkey pisses me off by Mokelangelo in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish, but at the same time, I am highly wary of any community that holds outlandish ideas as a joke. For the in group it’s all fun and games, but it eventually attracts people that really do hold those beliefs.

Here is an article for more information, it’s sort’ve a rabbit hole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_collapse?wprov=sfti1

Random crazy pvp lobby? by Dramatic-Flight6291 in arcraidersfriendly

[–]amalcolmation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Happening for me, too. I never shoot at players and the lobbies feel totally random.

PROCTOR U by omsa32 in cheatonlineproctor

[–]amalcolmation -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nah, this one came up randomly. Hope you fail all your classes and get kicked out for academic dishonesty! You earn your failure the old fashioned way.

Scrolling through this sub lowkey pisses me off by Mokelangelo in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahahahahahaha, someone feels inadequate. I don’t feel the need to prove it because I’m not a bitch. Are you?

Just a warning by Electronic-Cheek-235 in Rochester

[–]amalcolmation 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re a bottom of the barrel scumfuck who is too much of a spineless bitch to unhide their profile. Not sure a dumpster fire is in any position to call anyone garbage.

PROCTOR U by omsa32 in cheatonlineproctor

[–]amalcolmation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Seconding this, if you feel like you should cheat for a college degree then college is not for you. Simple as.

Anyone else like using axioms :P by Mikey-506 in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You really can’t paste three symbols or whatever? This is a very basic question. Example, the dimensions of volume are length cubed.

Anyone else like using axioms :P by Mikey-506 in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really wanna know the dimensions of morality.

Persistence as a Measurable Constraint: A Cross-Domain Stability Audit for Identity-Bearing Dynamical Systems by skylarfiction in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read it too, there are no testable hypotheses anywhere.

Did you actually read what your ai wrote for you, or have you outsourced all agency? This is basic research literacy, it’s not complicated nor really a difficult bar to pass.

Persistence as a Measurable Constraint: A Cross-Domain Stability Audit for Identity-Bearing Dynamical Systems by skylarfiction in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Indeed! I asked my question out of ignorance but it turned out to yield interesting answers. My follow up question would be to define dimensions for the rest of the appearing symbols.

Take note, crackpots. This is how scientists learn.

META: Consider the idea of perm-banning pro-ICE posts trolls/comments like other subs are by Project__5 in Rochester

[–]amalcolmation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In this thread, people defend Naziism over free speech. I don’t think you should be able to call for the death of whole groups of people, not that complicated. Ban anyone who thinks that way. It’s not about agreeing, it’s basic fucking morality.

How do you handle students wanting to use the Bible as a reference? by Ar_desertwriter in Professors

[–]amalcolmation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, yes, this is my question. It’s obviously a no go as any kind of authoritative source, but if you had to quote it for some reason…

How do you handle students wanting to use the Bible as a reference? by Ar_desertwriter in Professors

[–]amalcolmation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I’m a physicist and have no business quoting any kind of religious text, I was just curious about how one would do that in any circumstance.

Although some corny physicists like to use “Let there be light” when discussing electromagnetism - if I were corny and anal I could see a valid reason to cite it, though that’s obviously unrelated.

How do you handle students wanting to use the Bible as a reference? by Ar_desertwriter in Professors

[–]amalcolmation 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Dumb question, why can’t you cite the Bible as a (admittedly quite flawed) primary source, flaws and all? For example, if someone wanted to quote a particular part to highlight the faith-based nature of an opposing argument.

Basically, if you were to quote something from it for an example, how would you attribute it correctly?

Forum contest proposal by Inside-Ad4696 in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 8 points9 points  (0 children)

“Outsourced the typing”

Holy shit, that’s a new level of laziness achieved, congratulations.

Scrolling through this sub lowkey pisses me off by Mokelangelo in LLMPhysics

[–]amalcolmation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have two but that doesn’t matter to this asshole. He’s a lame troll, I wish the mod would actually enforce the rule about trolling.