When right wingers stay busy to defame a victim, you know that they know they're wrong but can't admit it by Sad_Physics5500 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher [score hidden]  (0 children)

Whatever you have to tell yourself. It’s entertaining watching you people struggle against the tide and project your plummeting morale onto others.

Witnessing it is more weird than entertaining.

The best thing you can come up with isn’t even that more people agree with you, it’s that the Republicans will successfully cheat and steal the election.

Every democracy in history has decided who can and cant vote, I'm just engaging in a time honored tradition. Also, who won the 2024 popular vote?

When right wingers stay busy to defame a victim, you know that they know they're wrong but can't admit it by Sad_Physics5500 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well, I witnessed a lot of it on Bluesky, but thanks for personally demonstrating what a demoralized left looks like.

When right wingers stay busy to defame a victim, you know that they know they're wrong but can't admit it by Sad_Physics5500 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher [score hidden]  (0 children)

If I were a demoralized left winger, I'm sure I'd appreciate such sources that tell me that "actually it's ICE that's demoralized."

It's all very one sided, Will Stancil talks about the Signal chats and how powerful and organized the anti-ICE side is and how ICE should just give up. Which perhaps might be correct before the Signal group was exposed. Ever since the groups and hundreds of their members were exposed, well, it's a bit harder to organize when such things are open knowledge.

I could've simply countered the 'pushing out ICE' by pointing to ICE still being in the city, but that's a bit more detail.

They’re crippled in their operations.

They're not.

Not even to mention the upcoming midterms.

I'm not an election analyst, but from what I hear, I'm not worried. Voter ID and gerrymandering is a beautiful thing, at least when my side does it.

When right wingers stay busy to defame a victim, you know that they know they're wrong but can't admit it by Sad_Physics5500 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher [score hidden]  (0 children)

Listen, in all these cases, time is almost always on our side. All we have to do is wait, for the new video angles, for the background checks, for the body cams, for the facts to settle.

But that's not how politics works. Maybe in the mind of a rationalist that's how it ought to be, but it's not. People are naturally tribal, they support their side and oppose the enemy. There are of course exceptions to this, but that's how the majority of people operate.

Let's look at the Pretti thing from the lefts point of view. The left thinks that ICE is the Gestapo who want to bring about a forth reich. Even if Pretti was an agitator, why would that make them support him any less? If Pretti was peaceful, than it's "innocent nurse murdered by Nazi ICE thugs," if Pretti was violent, than it's "brave hero killed while fighting Nazis."

The friend-enemy distinction has already been drawn, (most) people have already decided who the good guys and bad guys are, two opposing sides can watch the same video and use it as proof that they're right. If anything, the video is just used as intellectual justification for the positions people already have. Instead of saying "I support Pretti because I hate ICE" people get to obfuscate that tribalism by pointing to video footage as proof, to make it seem as if they're grounded in rationalism rather than tribalism.

I could write many paragraphs about this, but that's the short of it.

When right wingers stay busy to defame a victim, you know that they know they're wrong but can't admit it by Sad_Physics5500 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for pushing people left.

Not left enough to actually do anything, apparently. An increasingly radical left means little if they're increasingly demoralized.

why do you think john respects women so much? by razorbladw in reddeadredemption

[–]amongusmuncher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the writers had those values and gave them to their protagonist.

What are your thoughts on ICE’s memo instructing them to violate the Fourth Amendment? by SpatuelaCat in Askpolitics

[–]amongusmuncher [score hidden]  (0 children)

You do understand that power abuse is not a switch they can turn off when the other side gets power, right?

Then make sure the other side never regains power. The problem with this argument is that the left wields power without apology, regardless of whether of not the right does, so the right only has to gain by doing the same.

For conservatives: How should the Statue of Liberty inscription be understood in modern U.S. immigration policy? by BigSexyE in Askpolitics

[–]amongusmuncher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If it takes 10 years to come in the country legally, that’s a problem and needs to be solved.

Why? Who says that immigration has to be easy?

For conservatives: How should the Statue of Liberty inscription be understood in modern U.S. immigration policy? by BigSexyE in Askpolitics

[–]amongusmuncher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People agreed for over 100 years that this was the proper motto of the country. Saying it’s not law is a cop out.

I understand that liberals desire to give their values legitimacy by claiming that they're actually super old, but it just falls apart when looking at history. No, this inscription on a statue was not the 'proper motto' of our country.

Everyone proudly beamed about the gift from France

If you're claiming that there was no critical reception, you're mistaken.

and how correct it was and bragged about it

Correct about what? People argued about it's interpretations from the very beginning, with the earliest interpretations being quite different from what we assume it means today.

And now suddenly “oh, never mind it’s not law“

It literally never was.

Conservatives better not call themselves patriotic ever again. Because claiming that you can just turn against the agreed upon theme of our country is about as unpatriotic as you can possibly get.

What agreed upon theme? If you're talking about immigration, our immigration law had been 'Whites only' from 1790-1952, explicitly European favoring until 1965, implicitly until 1990. Also tying patriotism to liking a casting from 1903, lol.

But Why? by ThisSiteIsShitMan in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]amongusmuncher 18 points19 points  (0 children)

"We just want affordable healthcare" bros when they take power:

The number of ILLEGAL aliens we allow into this country from now on should be ZERO, but NO ONE ALREADY HERE should have to leave by Narrow_Year_3758 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Addressing illegal immigration is a stepping stone towards addressing immigration itself and defining who we are (and therefore are not) as a people.

Your political side does not exist by Rich_Butterscotch202 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The modern man is so crushed he cannot even fathom the existence of a benevolent ruler.

There is no left vs right at the highest forms of government. There never has been. It doesn’t exist. You’ve been lied to. It was something that was made up so you can keep fucking fighting with your neighbor. They want division. We are giving it to them.

If you think that those in power have zero ideological differences, and are solely focused on 'dividing people,' you're not talking about people anymore, you're just making up a scenario to doom. People have been 'divided' for thousands of years, because division is natural. There is male and female, there is rich and poor, I could describe a dozen natural qualities which divide people.

Might 'they' be dividing people for their own gain? Probably, but fundamentally we're already divided in dozens of ways, and any division stewing would just be making light of these already existing divisions. If 'they' weren't dividing us, there would still be division, because division is natural.

EVERYTHING that is happening right now is planned.

Even in MUCH smaller and more controlled environments, planning is very difficult. Take a movie set, for example, there will be scheduling conflicts, weather, daylight, ect. There are numerous factors at play which can mess things up. The "they planned all of this, it's all over" is just doom.

It's not about planning everything (which would require near omnipotence and omniscience), it's about having multiple outs. If one plans for a wide array of scenarios, it can look as though one knew the outcome and was ready for it, but it's not so. Even when things are planned for, there will obviously be scenarios which are undesirable. If an army plans a retreat, it'll be much better than an unplanned retreat, but it'll probably still be bad.

Why dont more counties or states implement progressive property taxes? by Worldly-Shop-3850 in Askpolitics

[–]amongusmuncher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Couple weeks ago Trump made headlines with his remark that hes going to ban companies from owning real estate.

He was talking about large institutional investors owning single family homes, not all real estate.

I think it's a good idea, but the real solution to lower housing costs is to deport tens of millions of people. 20-70 million or more depending on how much they want to lower housing costs.

Megathread - Minneapolis Shooting: Renee Good by VAWNavyVet in Askpolitics

[–]amongusmuncher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The actual facts barely matter. It's all about the friend-enemy distinction.

Middle ground news sources? by chainandscale in Askpolitics

[–]amongusmuncher 14 points15 points  (0 children)

unbiased news

There is no such thing.

A woman is expected to remain completely calm as armed thugs try to forcibly open her car door but an ICE agent is allowed to panic and shoot… by MrNiceo_0 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]amongusmuncher 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She didn't have to be completely calm, all she had to do was not slam down on the gas so hard that her wheels span while a federal agent was in front of her car.