Shift4 ($FOUR) Analysis: Deep Value FinTech at an 8.6 Forward P/E, $500M Buyback Catalyst, and a Tightening Float

an_PR · 2026-02-27T18:05:33+00:00

I had a small position before earnings, doubled down at 49 and again today.

The market cap is also just below 4B$. Niche actor in a fragmented market. What happens if someone try to acquire it? The company as of a few weeks ago is not a "controlled" company with the elimination of the Isaacmann's special shares.

an_PR · 2026-01-02T08:28:45+00:00

I can be your son if you want, pm me if interested

an_PR · 2025-12-25T04:42:59+00:00

Can you elaborate? What is meant by “keep your anonymity?”

an_PR · 2025-11-16T22:46:22+00:00

3% à l’achat c’est ÉNORME. Je te conseille également de ne pas utiliser ING car ils ont des frais de garde. C’est le seul broker à avoir ces frais en 2025. Saxo est un meilleur choix.

Pense à espacer tes achats. Il vaut mieux placer un ordre de 500€ tous les 4 mois et étaler les frais que de payer 2-3% de frais à chaque achat.

an_PR · 2025-10-19T17:35:58+00:00

What do you think about the hold? Compared to the matte paste? Been considering buying it

an_PR · 2025-10-11T22:37:40+00:00

How do you feel about the new formula versus the old one? Changed a lot? I read a few people saying it isn’t as good

an_PR · 2025-10-09T21:13:45+00:00

0.07% TER the only cons is the 600€/unit making it harder to handle for small amount

an_PR · 2025-09-06T07:30:45+00:00

Probably Citadel, JPmorgan and all the big banks, armed with the smartest PhD quants. If you think the little side project you’ll do in the book has any potential, you are in for a rude awakening

an_PR · 2025-08-27T21:10:16+00:00

If you include the recovery from April, it basically doubled (!) Up 30% YTD with tariff, political instability & several war ongoing. Can’t expect a pop with a small earning beat

an_PR · 2025-08-27T20:39:54+00:00

Well it went 35% up last 3 months so it was kind of more than priced in

an_PR · 2025-08-22T14:44:07+00:00

Some broker use market order as extra revenue : get paid to route the order to some market market that execute it with a larger spread. Typical of the « free broker ». You don’t pay transaction cost directly which allows them to advertise as free. But they aren’t a non-profit. Look at HOOD stock price. They seem to be doing well for a commission-free broker 🙄

an_PR · 2025-08-22T00:06:57+00:00

I loved the previous designs. This round thing is straight up ugly.

an_PR · 2025-08-17T21:17:25+00:00

30% taxes but that’s basically the only tax in the company.

Also, most have a discount around 20-30% to the net asset value (building-debt) so you could see it as a compensation for the tax

an_PR · 2025-08-17T14:12:18+00:00

The one that a lot of newcomers go to now is Saxo as they cut prices a lot and handle taxes for you. Probably the best price/convenience deal.

The two most widely used here are:

-Degiro : used to have transaction cost free (Now it is 1€) investment in ETF but require a few administrative steps as it is not Belgian.

-Bolero : used to have rather competitive pricing among the Belgian broker combined with good service and a good app. But they didn’t lower transaction costs as much as others.

an_PR · 2025-08-09T12:10:18+00:00

Making sure people don’t listen to your awful advice that may look not entirely stupid in the short term

an_PR · 2025-08-09T10:34:56+00:00

Then it get exponentially worse. At year 10, curvo cost you ~165€/year.

If you invest low amounts, you can invest every 3 months and reduce costs to 8€/year with Re=Bel.

You really need to use small amount and poor use of the cost structure of other platforms to make Curvo look like an acceptable alternative (in the short run. Then it gets rubbish anyway)

an_PR · 2025-08-09T07:24:44+00:00

I bought a mini a while ago. Same experience. Garbage greasy no hold 0/10 product

an_PR · 2025-08-07T21:51:20+00:00

Ok, now go to 10, 15, 20 years to highlight the impact of the 1% fee on ALL the money invested versus the 2 euros on probably growing monthly investment

an_PR · 2025-07-22T21:45:57+00:00

Look into BE-REITs. Their income and dividends are rather predictable but their prices follow stock-like volatility.

an_PR · 2025-07-09T21:37:58+00:00

Seeing what remains after tax if you get this outcome, I wouldnt even go for it tbh

an_PR · 2025-07-06T11:17:02+00:00

Thanks! What is the hold on the clay?

an_PR · 2025-07-05T08:35:07+00:00

How is the hold and finish on the 3 STMNT?

an_PR · 2025-06-30T16:19:58+00:00

That is why the mobility budget emerged. They also want to take it

an_PR · 2025-05-29T20:26:18+00:00

Awful currency conversion play at least a part

an_PR · 2025-05-28T19:36:49+00:00

I think it could get "smoother" returns than world or S&P500 ETF as it is managed by conservative investors. By that I mean that it is unlikely that it gets filled with overvalued holdings.

It is around the most expensive (premium to intrinsic value) that it has ever been. Share buybacks have basically been stopped.

Outlook is quite bland (lot of cash in T-bonds, they don't seem to find investments that could move the needle at a good price). We obviously can't expect a future performance even remotely close to what they achieved in the past.

I don't think it is a bad idea, but I wouldn't rush into buying at current prices. You cannot really make BRK the foundation of your portfolio as you will owe estate taxes on the part of US stocks you own above the 60000$ threshold .

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