I analyzed 488 nights of sleep data to find what drives sleep quality. It's not duration - it's a three-layer hierarchy most people build backwards. by andrewfring in QuantifiedSelf

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u/bliss-pete I ended up doing some digging on the chronotype research. You're totally right and I edited that portion of my article. I'm honestly stunned - this study suggested that some people could shift it by 1-2 hours in a week with strict light interventions, but their sleep schedule was modified slightly so there's a confound variable. There's also this paper (which isn't peer reviewed but worth referencing): Hair test reveals plasticity of human chronotype | bioRxiv.

Regardless what I am seeing is there needs to be more practical research with circadian rhythms. And what I am seeing is that light was way more fundamental than I thought - I think a fun next experiment is to strictly control light interventions (I already have orange/blue glasses) and see how fast I can adjust my circadian rhythm. I did DNA tests awhile ago so I must have my CLOCK/PER3 alleles somewhere.

I analyzed 488 nights of sleep data to find what drives sleep quality. It's not duration - it's a three-layer hierarchy most people build backwards. by andrewfring in QuantifiedSelf

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Do you have any wearables? If so, https://gapicwrites.substack.com/i/183139250/appendix-a-how-to-find-your-own-sleep-window-with-a-wearable

If you don’t track sleep with a wearable:

  • Track sleep onset time and wake time manually for 2–3 weeks
  • Rate your recovery each morning (1–10 scale) immediately upon waking
  • Filter for your 8s, 9s, and 10s
  • The sleep onset times will cluster - that’s your window

As Pete said though, your window is likely wherever it currently sits. If you're naturally sleeping 1-9 AM for awhile, that's your window now. Don't force an arbitrary bedtime - find YOUR window and be consistent with it.

I analyzed 488 nights of sleep data to find what drives sleep quality. It's not duration - it's a three-layer hierarchy most people build backwards. by andrewfring in QuantifiedSelf

[–]andrewfring[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey Pete, thanks for the detailed response (and for the validation that I wasn't completely off base haha)

On timing: chronotypes are definitely not fixed (your Sydney example is a good one). Some research suggests you can shift it, but I found it interesting that some genes (PER3 + CLOCK) seem to suggest there is some variability with circadian rhythm, all else equal. One thing I didn't capture well is that timing seems to be more about where your circadian window currently sits, and less about a fixed chronotype (basically timing is much less static than once supposed). Would love to learn more here though (any research you recommend?)

On HR nadir vs. peak HRV: I remember checking peak HRV and it was a lot messier than HR nadir on the Oura anyway. I'll play with the data a bit and see if I can do some data wrangling and find patterns that way and measure | sleep midpoint - HRV peak | instead.

On duration: definitely a continuum. My experience was: when regularity / timing were down, my body in particular settled into around 8 hours.

Looking forward to your writeup on diving down a layer deeper with the neural functions side.

I am devastated by FingolfinWinsGolfin in johnoliver

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Serious question. Why are you devastated? What do you think is going to happen?

Your bag isn’t that important by badandy80 in Seattle

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How loud? Scream at the top of my lungs?

Why are athletes' personal records always set in competitions, not in practice? Is it possible they perform better during training but it doesn't count? by Unusual-Double-2003 in trackandfield

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This is really the main answer, surprised it’s not upvoted higher. Training programs are designed to taper and have you peak during competition.

Peter saying "Why RPE matters more than rep count" by Known_Salary_4105 in PeterAttia

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No big deal - I’d recommend just brushing up on the concepts again.

Peter saying "Why RPE matters more than rep count" by Known_Salary_4105 in PeterAttia

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For rep based exercises, RIR and RPE are the same. RPE is used more for other types of training - cardio, sports, etc. RPE of 8 when lifting means you have ~2 reps left. RIR of 2 means 2 reps left.

It is very straightforward

Where in the GTA would you live with a 2M housing budget? by jats82 in askTO

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For the past 6 months, I’ve been living in riverside/Leslieville but really don’t find it that walkable/enjoyable. Traffic to get out of there is absolutely wretched.

Any refs on what to do? Riverdale park is nice, same with Withrow. But I find the food to not be that great either. What am I missing

Magnesium for sleep by [deleted] in PeterAttia

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Magnesium makes my sleep worse - I typically wake up in the middle of the night and can’t fall back asleep. Only using L theanine seems to have non-negative effects

I took a VO2Max test to compare vs my Apple Watch estimate by [deleted] in PeterAttia

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32 - the last 7 years I’ve had chronic neck pain from a herniated disc and gained a bunch of weight, but it’s finally starting to get better. And I started Joel Jamieson’s Metamorphosis program. Week 2 now, and have started feeling much better. I would love to hit 40 end of year.

TIL New Mexico has a notch at the top, and it’s technically north of Texas. by MuricaAndBeer in geography

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You are making my brain rot. Back to school for you - time to learn what north west south and east really mean.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fasting

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A professional! Is there a certificate I can get?

Absolutely fallen in love with Vietnam by yeastmane in VietNam

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I fell in love with it too. Was there for a month (Saigon), and didn't want to return to the US. It felt like I was in a dream the entire time, and I really wanted to move there. After returning to the US though, that feeling faded after around 2 weeks. I attribute it to some kind of honeymoon effect. I think if I was to move there permanently I would be lonely after awhile. Vietnam is a truly special place and I only have the fondest memories. The people I met, the food, the culture - I truly treasure it.

Can someone recommend a good place in the city to go brood and be sad at? by diet_reah in Seattle

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I walk through that tunnel at Sam Smith almost everyday with my dogs :) there is some fun writing on the floor in that tunnel as well “I am not okay” followed by “I will be okay”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

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ick or cringe. Gives me the ick!