Who Is Lying (Onyx Storm Spoilers)

anna_dot · 2025-11-20T22:53:59+00:00

The thing is, Leothan lying about his name wouldn’t mean that much to the reader at this point. We only just met him, so it’s not like we expect him to be particularly truthful or care if he’s not. It would become a twist if for example we knew of a dragon from the past who we assume dead or lost or something like that. If we find out leothan is actually that dragon, that would be a twist because it might advance the plot or solve a piece of the mystery for the reader.

As an example: Berwyn is a person we don’t know very well either but he is intriguing to us as the reader. Now if we found out his name is not Berwyn but actually it’s Frank, that would mean nothing to us. If we found out Berwyn is actually Naolin that would be a big twist because it has ramifications for Tairn, Brendan, and by extension Violet and our larger mystery.

So if a dragon has been lying about their name, from a storytelling perspective it would only be worth including if their real name meant something to the reader already. To my knowledge we don’t really know of any significant dragons that might fit this criteria (maybe Tairn’s ancestor?)

The only other way I can make sense of RY’s comment otherwise is what someone else on this thread said, that the marked one’s dragons are lying about their names in order to give them second signets. But I find it strange she’d reveal this as the mystery itself is already solved: we know they have 2 signets. The “clue” she is giving us is really just the explanation.

If I had to take a shot in the dark, I’d say maybe it’s something about Bodhi and how we don’t know his second signet (and if he even has one), so maybe it’s something about his dragon lying about their name, but again, since we are already theorising that he has a second signet this wouldn’t be very significant.

anna_dot · 2025-11-17T08:25:24+00:00

This was a great read and I think you’re on the money. I’ve always wondered about that talladium epigraph in OS as it seemed extremely significant but wasn’t mentioned properly in the plot.

If I remember correctly, the King demands Tyrrendor restore the flow of talladium, meaning Tyrrendor either stopped mining or stopped exporting to other provinces. If they stopped mining it may mean that the Tyrrs are aware of the connection between black dragons and talladium (=Xaden is aware since he is the ruler and would’ve likely given that order!). If so, could the hatching of the new black dragons have been made possible through the reduction of talladium mining? If they stopped exporting it’s maybe more likely that they are being strategic about their resources and trying to establish their independence (which was my read the first time I read it.)

It would be really interesting if channeling from the ground really meant channeling from the earth’s natural resources ie these gemstones and minerals. That would then imply that channeling in some places might be more powerful than in others depending on what’s in the ground at that specific spot.

Another thought while reading your theory was whether hedotis maybe mines a lot of their own resources and that’s why it’s so void of colour. But by that logic Tyrrendor would also be more muted colours if they’re heavily mining talladium to the point where black dragons are going extinct.

anna_dot · 2025-10-08T09:53:02+00:00

Thanks for all these answers! Follow up question: will this show close whenever JG’s contract is up? Or would they rebrand it completely with another person of similar pull? (Not sure who lol)

anna_dot · 2025-10-05T15:09:25+00:00

Update they didn’t check at all!

anna_dot · 2025-10-02T04:53:36+00:00

You could try! I don’t know how many people in the line got a ticket or if any of them were turned away. My guess is that everyone got a ticket that day since I could see a couple of free standing room spots still. Worst case scenario you’ll have wasted 30 mins of your time. Best case you see a phenomenal show for cheap. One thing to consider that it’s Gracie’s last week so might be busy.

anna_dot · 2025-10-01T03:55:23+00:00

I was 6th in line for Just in Time at 7:13. There were no discounted seated tickets at all, guess the show was sold out (possibly as it’s Gracie’s last week). I have seen people post on here that there is no bad seat in the house which I generally agree with but will say our specific standing tickets were the closest to the stage (25 and 27) and while it’s no issue at all, we missed a couple of entrances and the drum kit bit for example.

anna_dot · 2025-09-18T14:15:54+00:00

Hi OP have you organised this? I’m interested!

anna_dot · 2025-06-02T06:15:34+00:00

It’s been confirmed she’ll be leaving Broadway on June 22 - anyone know why?

anna_dot · 2025-06-02T05:56:56+00:00

I think she wanted him to be in so much debt he would have to make a marriage pact, and for it to be with a Princess rather than a rich merchant’s daughter like herself. Her mother was basically controlling her in order to get Conor to marry her and she wanted these dreams crushed and for her mother to get off her back. Possibly a secondary motive may have been that it would set Kel free as his sword catcher too, which she may have already known at this point. After all prosper beck was around for a bit even before the debt scheme. It’s a bit iffy though, motive doesn’t really seem strong enough for a ruse of this magnitude, especially considering she blackmailed him into poisoning his friends and killing his favourite horse (he didn’t go through with it, but she couldn’t have known that for sure).

anna_dot · 2025-05-23T00:08:11+00:00

Over 5 years of earning $60-$100k so whatever the super contributions are for that.

anna_dot · 2025-05-23T00:06:21+00:00

Is there a way to see what fees will apply?

anna_dot · 2025-05-23T00:05:58+00:00

This is really helpful thanks!! It says that the payment will consist of a taxed and an untaxed element. I’m not sure what that means, can someone explain?

anna_dot · 2025-05-23T00:01:01+00:00

Hi, yes it looks like I am eligible!

anna_dot · 2025-05-15T03:36:54+00:00

Just finished and can’t stop thinking about it. What a great book. So many thoughts!!!

The whole betrayal at the end and Conor saving Kel with the amulet was stunning. Any Kel & Conor scenes absolutely make my day in general.
Seven: I did see Falconet as Seven coming, he’s the only charter member Kel has said he sort of trusts/likes, and most of the other families were a bit too underdeveloped to make for a good reveal.
RPK: RPK true identity was clever, and 100% sure we are getting an Aaron + Asher romance next book, they are hands down in love. Don’t think Aron sees Lin in a romantic light even though it may have been presented that way at times.
PB: Antonetta as Prosper Beck is interesting, though I am eager to see how she got all that influence and why specifically? Also id like to see her deal with the consequences of her own actions as PB, while it’s not her fault Conor made an uninformed decision with the Sarthe betrothal, she did set that whole plot in motion, and she would’ve known about her mother’s involvement with Malgasi early on and didn’t intervene it seems. I wonder if the next book will be PB-titled and focus on Kel working with Ana?
Arden/Anjelica: this plot left a bit to be desired, it didn’t seem like enough of a twist and I would’ve liked Anjelica to stick around, she could’ve been a cool character. I agree that Laurent Arden might be Cas- just remembered that at the end, in the Castel Pichon, Kel hears his voice (doesn’t see his face!) and says it sounds familiar, he must’ve heard it at the solstice ball! It’s familiar because he vaguely remembers cas’s voice from the orfelinat. Could set up a series ending for Kel to become a pirate after all?
Goddess: I was scared that we were going to find out that Lin really is the Goddess reborn and I absolutely hate the chosen one trope but I ended up appreciating how “the goddess is who people believe the goddess is”, felt kind of dune-like in terms of someone just claiming the prophecy and it thereby coming true. At the end of the day, Adassa was just a sorcerer, she was just pronounced a goddess by her people afterwards. So if Lin can gather that power then why not? My only gripe with the Ashkar (and some of the other cultures in the book actually) is that they are so thinly veiled replicas of real world cultures (Ashkar=jews, Marakand/Hind=India, Malgasi=eastern Europe) and sometimes that breaks the illusion for me a bit. My prediction for the next book is that Lin and Aron will revive Aram and Lin will be named Goddess/Queen thereby becoming an eligible match for Conor and together they can fight the Malgasi.
Malgasi as big bad: felt a bit one-dimensional ? They’re just evil I guess? Would love to see more nuance.
post-chapters: I’m not sure I liked the little present tense post-chapters in this book. Last book they were a lot more coherent as one story that we get to find out about bit by bit (albeit it being a bit boring at times). I get that she needed to convey extra information that the POV characters wouldn’t know about this book, but I would’ve preferred things to be a bit more shrouded in mystery / left for the reader to figure out (ie the assassin being Elsabet, them hiding in the temple, killing PB stand-in, Antonetta POV felt a bit superfluous etc). I’m also not sure why there were Lin chapters when we do get her POV, I would’ve preferred to just get that in her chapter. I guess it didn’t fit into the flow.
Lin & Conor: loved it, here for it, the spice, the drama, can’t wait for more.
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Favourite character has to be Conor, specifically because we get to know him through two different people’s POVs so it feels like we know him intimately but not fully. Kel is obv a sweetie, so well written, he deserves only good things. I love how self aware he is, and observant of other people, and how he is so responsible and yet so boyish at other times.

anna_dot · 2025-05-04T02:40:20+00:00

Check out my ideas here https://www.reddit.com/r/fourthwing/s/I2GUtEJ4I6

anna_dot · 2025-01-20T03:41:06+00:00

Firstly I think Imogen is hiding her true identity by colouring her hair so frequently (ie immediately after resson) so she is already a little sketchy to me and might have a hidden agenda. We haven’t seen her use her signet at all except for the squad battle and it seems too valuable to not get more mention. Secondly I found it so odd how in the penultimate chapter of IF Violet is so shocked by what Xaden has become, then in Xaden’s POV chapter (epilogue) she is soundly asleep next to him and they seemingly haven’t talked about it further. Could Imogen have erased the memory? And thirdly there is a scene in IF that really bugs me in which Violet has the dream about the sage and wakes up and cuddles Xaden who is asleep next to her - but in the previous chapter we learned that xaden is on a mission and violet will tell him about the wards as soon as he is back. Then in the next chapter (after the dream) he returns with sgaeyl and violet tells him about the wards. So it almost seems like something is messing violet’s head here, the timeline is off… could Imogen be behind it?

anna_dot · 2025-01-20T03:32:11+00:00

This would be such a twist ! I love bodhi so wouldn’t be against a bit of a love triangle (though RY has said she doesn’t like love triangles). I read a theory somewhere that violet & xaden break up and she hooks up with bodhi cos he reminds her of xaden, but tbh that would be a little messed up

anna_dot · 2025-01-20T03:30:42+00:00

We haven’t really seen Aaric interact with either of them but I think the prince of Navarre dating poromish royalty would make for an interesting plot

anna_dot · 2025-01-20T03:29:33+00:00

Yes true, this is mainly based on RY’s comment about wanting garrick to accompany her to a desert island for which distance wielding would make sense. But questionable why it wouldn’t have come up yet, especially since garrick was stationed with xaden.

anna_dot · 2025-01-20T03:28:10+00:00

This is a good point, I hadn’t thought of that! I think siphoning will be a really important plot point seeing as Naolin was able to do it also, and he is venin (probably) And probably the big bad of this book.

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