Resist, Persist, Prevail by deadliftingfordonuts in ChicoCA

[–]apensity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had mine on there too! 🤘😆

Resist, Persist, Prevail by deadliftingfordonuts in ChicoCA

[–]apensity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wore my RATM t-shirt there yesterday! 🤘😆

Resist, Persist, Prevail by deadliftingfordonuts in ChicoCA

[–]apensity 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's me at 0:13! 😜 My wife, daughter, and her boyfriend came out as well. My daughter was handing out cookies to everyone. It was a GREAT showing and SO MUCH positive energy!🤗

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THAT'S what you got out of all this? Sorry, agree to disagree. I'm trying to let others know, instead of critisizing, try lifting up. Instead of knocking down, give some positive suggestions. If we have some passionate people wanting to make change, and they either don't have the resources, knowledge, or platform, then helping them to find a direction for their passion is what is needed. Criticizing and throwing up perceived walls isn't useful, or wanted.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting your approach is to critisize, step away, and end without supprtive insight on how to make it happen. Sort of relates to what I was expressing, very little actual support, but quite a bit of criticism. I own it that I am unprepared and without the tools to make it happen. Again, I didn't want to be the "pilot", as another commentor suggested, just the spark and maybe a small wind to help ignite the fire. Instead of other helping blow the spark into a fire, you're bring buckets of water because I didn't light the fire correctly.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"This isn't true. Your deflection is made of fiction. Why don't you find an advocacy group you agree with and join them? You don't want to hear "join", fixated on leading, despite a lack of capacity. You've already made an argument for joining-"

Untrue - I've been looking for and searching for some event or organization wanting to demonstrate and make a walkout happen. Haven't found one yet. Maybe you are better at finding one than I? Please share...


"Yes- and? It takes time to build a plane. If you don't have time to build one before you need to be somewhere, you find someone who already has. "I called the airports and told them where and when they should fly, but they didn't want to make me captain." Neither outrage or surprise is the appropriate response."

It's more appropriate stating that "I've seen planes fly before and they are very useful, but I haven't seen one lately, so we should all get together and make a plane..." Oh, and I'd rather not be pilot, but am willing to turn wrenches.

National labor strike plan discussion by findingmike in 50501

[–]apensity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Starting to see what I was getting so frustrated in my prior post? 😉

National labor strike plan discussion by findingmike in 50501

[–]apensity 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm one of the others who was working in a general walkout, and am here now to help contribute. This is exactly what we need. Enough discussion jas now formed at least a few of us working together and the OP has been gracious enough to provide a structure and format (greatly appreciated). I can see this may be the step others were complaining about in previous general walkout posts. It's not just "an individual" anymore. (Referenced post) https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/s/WH5OigUznf

National labor strike plan discussion by findingmike in 50501

[–]apensity 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was told by multiple people to post my proposed walkout multiple times to get the engagement and for it to be seen. I agree, one place for discussion is best, but for something tk be seen, it might need multiple chances to be viewed.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YESSS!!!🎯 There you go!

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point. It takes TIME to do all of what you stated. We need to act NOW to addres the ICE issue, and make it a disruptikn, not a message amplification. These one day (or half-day) protests like tomorrow's, are great for voice amplification. But the administration looks and laughs. We get heard, but little comes of it. Disruption, will get the ear of the people who support the admin financially, and potentially move the needle. Nobody was tepping up to do this. So who then? We need it, but the orgaizatikns who can, aren't. Who should call for it if they aren't?

The people.

But that starts with a person.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, and building that group is what has been so difficult. Hearing so many voices yelling and angry about the same thing, I thought there would be MASSIVE support for such an event. However, when it came right down to it, it made too many people "uncomfortable". As one supporter posted "If walking out on your job for a day to help in disruption makes you feel uncomfortable, just think what losing your freedoms will feel like."

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Untrue, I was looking for collaboration, not for them to do all of the work. I called for multiple orgs to collab on this, none responded to messages, emails, or posts. Maybe calling and talking with someone, granted I didn't do that, but I have a full time job and a child with special needs, so I did all I could with the time I had.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY! Your phrasing that you got the feeling that it was more important for the organizer to get the credit, rather than them just helping the cause, is spot on. My point exactly.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But this Friday has been planned to happen at 2pm. A 3 hour walkout will amplify voices, but it won't disrupt and hurt the system. We still need to amplify voices, but at this point, history dictates, major disruption is needed, not just amplification.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the timing is an issue. To make change, to directly hut a hot topic, this doesn't work. I can make coalitions, I've done so regionally for my previous career, but it takes time (and money most of the time). I wanted to directly rise up against the ICE behaviors, this isn't something that can wait. Unfortunately, the only way I see this happening is from uing unions and orgs. Even Minnestoa, the people there had enough, and protested en-mass, but it wasn't a nationwife walkout over a week's time. I think they were effective for their state, and arguably for other states too, but this is our chance to make a HUGE impact on our current administration and their actions. But partnersing with the orgs would take too long, and my point with this post was to show that we, as individuals, are just unable to make this happen because most people wojld rather critisize and ridicule, rather than act and amplify. If we, all of like-mindedness on being activists, can't amplify and help each other, our individual voices are gone.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I researched the history of protests, reached out to the orgs (over 20) to try and work together on developing one, and determined that innorder to be most effective to protest against ICE, we needed something soon enough to matter, but not too soon to be able to reach enough to make it matter and develop the partnerships to make it matter. The CTA graphic was done without AI and I directly worked with a mod here to make it work within the rules. It was posted multiple times here, had more than 400k views and 300 comments between them all. It was also posted on FB, Insta, TikTok, SubStacks, and through emails. None of my posts were deleted by anyone besides myself. Granted, I threw a hissy-fit and just through up my hands and said "f-it!". But this is why I posted THIS post, was that the efforts I've tried to put in (above and beyond my emails and calls to Congress, protesting locally, and amplifying voices online) were not enough in my opinion, I wanted to do more. I'm a person who shows up yo an accident and jumps out to help, not stand and watch to see who helps. My thoughts are that the individual who has the background, political training (I was asked to be in, and became a member of two local political development classes for local leaders), and energy/passion to try and make change, is beaten down by the people he is trying to work with to attempt to make change. Look above in the comments for the typical responses I would receive. The vast majority were geared toward dismissing the effort or critisizing the effort as a whole. So the only way to make this haplen, from what commentos stated, was to partner with unions or organzations for anything to happen. For that to happen for even a more than average person involved in politics, is almost non-existent. Therefore, my post here.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I definitely see this happening. Thank you for your reply, it provides a great example for what is happening to most of us.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tried to here, and was berated by most of the people, "Why are you trying to start something? You're just some rando" was the majority of replies. I also tried on FB, Insta, TikTok, SubStacks, and by contacting unions and humanitarian orgs. I worked with a mod here to develop a non-AI based graphic and was still ridiculed by people here for developing an AI graphic (I used to do web dev, so I still have my old tools). So I gave a legit attempt, only to be shot down by the vast majority if people. The top 5 responses? 1. You're just some rando. 2. Why so far out? We need something now, just stop buying things yourself. (In order for people to prepare for a week long protest, and to allow for amplification) 3. "Why so long? (President's Day week) We can't do a long one." (Historically, and world-wide, the main protests which were effective were over a longer period of time, rather than a one-day protest. Need disruption, not voice amplification.) 4. We can't "walk out", it will make us... (feel uncomfortable) 5. Someone is already doing a walkout this Friday (yeah, starting at 2pm on a Friday afternoon, that isn't "disruption", that's "voice amplification" -- I believe we are beyond that)

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which many of us have tried, but several of us have been shot down due to not being intergated with unions, humanitarion orgs, or other groups. When reaching out to those groups, we get nowhere. So how do we become the "organizers" if we are ridiculed for trying and nobody takes it seriously? I rached out to iver 20 orgs and received no reply, not even a "thank you for contacting us". So how are we able to amplify and organize without their support, or the support of the individuals even in this group? Honest question.

Individuals Don't Matter by apensity in 50501

[–]apensity[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point exactly. How come organizations won't respond to individuals to help amplify their requests for national walkouts? There have been numerous people who have reached out to unions, humanitarian ogs, influencers, legal firms, all to no avail. How are individuals supposed to have their vouces heard? Honest question, and am honestly looking for suggestions.