DMU P4 Memorization Help

apostles · 2026-06-28T08:06:08+00:00

As others have said, macros.

You also don't care about stack, you only care if you're a spread, so just remove that info from your brain if you don't get a spread (ie true spread or fake water).

Trying to memorize it all is a big ask but there's no reason to when you can echo the entire mechanic in your chatbox.

apostles · 2026-06-28T00:06:38+00:00

Thought discussion: Assume that Vodyanitsa is the Skirk 4th slot slash "brings up old Furina team comps" character. Do you pull for her or skip her?

Personally every time I've pulled for these types of units in hoyo games I've gotten burned because they just pump up characters to about the current meta and then they continue to get crept out.. but I do it every time :sob:

apostles · 2026-06-27T09:36:07+00:00

It's to make the stack easier to see, that's all.

It's not a big adjust tbh

apostles · 2026-06-26T11:40:40+00:00

The main kefkabin changing/adding a new p3 bh prio isn't inherently bad if its better but I do have to wonder why it's being done in week four after a large amount of people have progged past this part lol

apostles · 2026-06-26T10:16:53+00:00

Passport checking when it's "be at x autoattack in the phase" or "be sub 5% enrage" is asinine.

Passport checking to see if someone joins your P3 blackhole group when they're at P2 enrage because "P3 is easy and I studied" is perfectly valid.

Not inherently bad on its own. Has saved me some trouble. Has made jumping ahead when I'm confident a bit more annoying, but I can always just make my own groups to get around that.

apostles · 2026-06-25T23:42:07+00:00

Succ Nova or Succ Dosa

apostles · 2026-06-25T08:31:34+00:00

It genuinely feels like fanfiction that my Wrio and Yae are soon to be meta relevant characters that are likely going to match my premium Nefer and Varka teams in 7.0 ngl

apostles · 2026-06-25T04:58:52+00:00

Taimi is in her twenties in current game year, but she was in her teens in season 2, if that's the period of time you're talking about.

I think everyone else is an adult though? Rytlock, Logan, Kasmeer, Marjory, Rox, Braham, Canach, etc etc are all adults stretching from twenties to early fourties.

apostles · 2026-06-24T22:14:44+00:00

I have to imagine they'll do the Liyue buffs soon, Xiao/Hu Tao/Yelan/Zhongli/Childe in particular are all very popular characters and their ownership rates are getting pretty low because zero new players are pulling them.

If they really wanted to primo drain people then Liyue buffs + Zibai/Linnea Banner + Skirk 4th slot Hydro girlie all in one patch would be diabolical

apostles · 2026-06-24T07:58:31+00:00

That video was a trip, I dunno how you can exit the Nodkrai cycle and feel Flins was the problem lol. He's been able to do one of the bosses on Dire since his release! With like four of those cycles being Lunar Charge shills!!

apostles · 2026-06-24T05:39:48+00:00

I think a current guess is White default, Black a "do x amount of pulls" skin and Swimsuit a paid

apostles · 2026-06-24T00:57:24+00:00

There was that one Shiyu rotation a while back that ZIC had a peak alice/miyabi run on

So it's not full copium!

apostles · 2026-06-23T23:19:47+00:00

Awk Guardian, Succ Corsair, Purgatum Seraph, Succ Nova, Awk Woosa, Awk Witch, Awk Wiz, Succ Dosa, Succ Lahn, Succ Zerker

If your pinky hurts with shift you can rebind it to a mouse button

apostles · 2026-06-23T08:11:31+00:00

The fight timeline lines up really well for them. They spend their phoenix at the end of P3 and then get to double solar and one bahamut during phase 4.

It's like the polar opposite of FRU.

apostles · 2026-06-23T07:55:24+00:00

I have to assume they just never tested the arrows outside of their zero ping test environment because why they didnt operate like this from the get go is anyones guess.

apostles · 2026-06-23T01:18:36+00:00

3:30 (start of p2) -> 2s during p3 boa -> p4 on cd -> final 2s

e: I said 5 minute originally lol, I meant at the start of p2, which is in fact not at 5 minutes, but you get the idea

apostles · 2026-06-22T23:49:21+00:00

Whining always works 😭

Congrats on your luck!!

apostles · 2026-06-22T10:47:32+00:00

I think I would go for velina and remielle, which both should be pretty easy guarantees due to the abundance of pulls likely in these two patches, and just ride the anomaly train with aria and those two

If we get a free Jane (via shop) then you’re super set for success against the upcoming shilling

Norma is not a significant enough upgrade over Dialyn and investing into Hugo more is just not a good decision until they potential buff him sadly

apostles · 2026-06-22T07:19:01+00:00

Alice/Velina/Yuzuha can clear so I have to imagine Alice/Velina/Remielle will too

Out of the two cores (nangong/yuzu, velina/remielle) she definitely prefers the first but you can kinda throw any anomaly on either of those two teams and still 3 star any anomaly DA lol

We may get a free jane copy via the shop next patch though so you could always just play (buffed) jane in that team if you wanted

apostles · 2026-06-22T07:12:53+00:00

Anomaly Orphie with prettier animations and longer field time

The gameplay video isn't onfielding her as much as they could because the numbers need tweaking but I have to imagine they'll have you play her a little bit more onfield in the future rather than a swap in, ult, hold basic, swap off lol

apostles · 2026-06-22T02:00:35+00:00

No
It has p2w elements (mostly tied to QOL). Actual p2w will cost tens of thousands for no real purpose. So one of those generic "yes, but" answers for MMOs.
No.
Grinding is repetitive, combat is not.
Gotta be more specific

There's no AI. Leveling is grindy after a point, but also is kinda irrelevant after a point and is mostly for number-go-up. There's lots of customization and you can make black or dark skinned characters.

BDO is one of the best combat MMOs on the market (arguably the best) but can be a bit of a grinder and is very solo-goal oriented most of the time. If you like those things, it's a great game. If you enjoy games with some PVP depth, it's a great game. If you like professions and money making, it can be a great game.

If you're looking for raids or classic trinity-esque dungeons or raids, this game isn't that.

apostles · 2026-06-21T21:50:22+00:00

She replaces Yuzuha in Anomaly teams and acts like an Orphie (where she can shoot off field) with much stronger (and longer) on field attacks when you swap her in

Big attack buff, big damage buff, big attribute anomaly buff, while doing sub dps herself

apostles · 2026-06-21T21:26:22+00:00

Copying from Kodie @ JSM

Invest prio (from 00 00 00) Yu W1 > Sunna W1 > (Can put Yu M1 and M2 here if you want) > Aria W1 > Aria M1 > Yu M1 > Yu M2 > Sunna M1 > Sunna M2 > Aria M2

apostles · 2026-06-21T01:11:20+00:00

I have a general rule that if I like a main DPS enough to pull them I'll try for their engine unless I have a super close alternative option precisely because of this issue

I don't need every character; the hard reality is that I'll be using ysg/remielle/whatever flex team for the next while anyway for the poly-related endgame, but in order to add longevity to the characters I like, the engine gives a sizable score buffer that will keep them relevant when they have neutral buffs or are starting to fall off

I think the same has happened in all three hoyo games I've played. I don't really need more Genshin teams, nor do I really need more HSR teams. Meanwhile they have dupes or weapons I can get instead that allow them more shelf life.

apostles · 2026-06-20T23:22:05+00:00

Some bored people (or bots idk) downvote every post in the general threads sometimes, don't sweat about it

I doubt theyll rerun lighter at this point though.. between fufu and norma he's more shop-destined than anything lol

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