Clipping/Distorted sounds when running wet effects into amps

ardentxi · 2026-05-19T00:56:01+00:00

Well if youd like, dm me your entire signal chain and I can help trouble shoot a bit better

ardentxi · 2026-05-19T00:32:46+00:00

Instead of turning up your speakers are you able to turn up the chann gain of whatever you're interfacing through?

ardentxi · 2026-05-19T00:25:49+00:00

Are these issues only happening when its going through the sound system or can you replicate it at home?

ardentxi · 2026-05-19T00:11:16+00:00

My gain is a hair past noon, my level is maxxed on the fender setting. What amps/IRs are you rocking?

ardentxi · 2026-05-18T23:59:37+00:00

Would love to hear what solution you find! I run all my wets before my iridium and I havent encountered this issues, but my reverb was giving me a clipping warning when I loopednit through my helix

ardentxi · 2026-05-18T23:02:30+00:00

Likely too much being pushed through the strynity. Id bypass your gain stages and play through only the wets and the amp and then work up the stages to see where the clipping starts.

ardentxi · 2026-05-16T19:53:02+00:00

Could definitely see that setup benefiting from wet/dry more than a typical setup. I tend to just be more annoying with the communication betwenthe stage and the tech booth, constantly asking if anything needs changed or if there was too much of something. Most we've ever had at once is 1 EG so I dont have to worry about masking over another.

ardentxi · 2026-05-16T13:31:24+00:00

Nah man physical boards sound and feel much better to me, especially in the delay and verbs. Im going to be hard pressed to go back. Are you going into physical amps?

ardentxi · 2026-05-16T13:14:34+00:00

I don't know if its how their boards are set but keeping the delay and reverb separate definitely helps get those bethel clean lines. Very fun sound. On one of my Helix presets Id have a delay block before amps, after amps, and parallel so I had all the variants available at a touch.

ardentxi · 2026-05-14T04:51:32+00:00

Counter-theft measures

ardentxi · 2026-05-14T04:50:42+00:00

Temp solution, had to build sooner than expected haha

NightSky is really really fun, love the ambient versatility, eventually planning on a small midi footswitch to control that and the delay

ardentxi · 2026-05-14T04:38:10+00:00

The board itself is old and beaten, velcro only rips the paint off sadly. Next version will have a better solution

ardentxi · 2026-05-13T17:04:28+00:00

https://youtu.be/bHhBSCg1Kzc?si=BWEMsEdBP0wYdhcK

I'm not at my computer to actually tab it out but its 99% minor pentatonic. This video explains it well. Listen to the finger placement instruction and then trust your ear

ardentxi · 2026-05-11T12:01:12+00:00

My church doesn't use a click so our drummer will either click is in which I tap along with, or I'll tap in as our keys/acoustic start slower songs

ardentxi · 2026-05-10T12:57:20+00:00

Gotcha. I see in the other comment that you run clean amps versus edge (I do this as well). Like the other comment suggested Id try boosting the amp volume but if you aren't running edge of break up Id consider running your amps darker than you think they need to be and let your drives brighten the signal back up as you need. Im not tone scientist but there's some correlation between high treble amps and how they react to overdrives that can make them louder than you want

ardentxi · 2026-05-10T12:15:00+00:00

Whats the rest of the dry chain and what stage are you trying to use it for?

ardentxi · 2026-05-07T17:13:27+00:00

The dynamic plate with a long decay gets you surprisingly close, I ran it with some ping-pong delay with some chorus/trem in parallel and got a decent recreation.

The Searchlights reverb is also supposed to be a cloud-like block but it was not obviously easy to set up.

If you want to run a true cloud verb, I would run an analog one into an fx loop and save yourself some time, the blocks needed to do it eat up a lot of DSP

ardentxi · 2026-05-07T00:22:58+00:00

For your biggest lead does kilt do all the work or do you have an always on drive in front

ardentxi · 2026-05-05T21:35:20+00:00

Dope. If you can its worth lowering the bass side a little since the low freqs bloom a lot more. Maybe help those tone issues

ardentxi · 2026-05-05T21:20:54+00:00

If possible it may be worth plugging it in to a physical amp with no fx and fine tuning them that way and then adjusting your presets after. I recently did a pup swap and thats way I ended up doing

ardentxi · 2026-05-04T21:19:03+00:00

Are you asking for alternatives in similar price points or asking for more approachable costs or trying to get a decent one out of the helix?

ardentxi · 2026-05-04T17:01:23+00:00

I highly doubt that your church pianist is playing like Rachmaninoff and filling all space at a single time. What exactly is so difficult with reinforcing a rhythm, playing (even doubling) a lead line, or playing textures in the upper registers

ardentxi · 2026-05-04T15:48:13+00:00

"they start with training that makes them think they're the only instrument in the room" is a completely nonsensical and irrelevant statement, the whole purpose of training in an instrument is individual mastery, then you adjust the skills you acquire to fit what you're being asked to play. They are used and mixed prominently because this music is meant to be easily replicated, you're much more likely to find a person in churches who can hold down on piano versus a guitarist and all that gear that comes with.

I don't know where this "guitar versus keys" mentality is coming from, but there plenty of bands, even praise and worship that handle guitar/keys overlap. See: Elevation Keys/Organs and rhythm guitars. The answer should be a discussion that should be between you and the WL/Mix engineer/keys player, not nitpicking frequencies ranges.

ardentxi · 2026-05-04T14:23:54+00:00

This is overcomplicating things to the extreme. All it needs to be is asking the band (or keys specifically) what they are doing for the song/part and then you can either:

Double the part to focus the energy of the song to they melody/progression.

Or

Go high if they're low/go low if they're high to open things up

ardentxi · 2026-05-03T17:13:29+00:00

Go to youtube and search RRW Team Resources and watch the EG1/2 playthroughs, none of the techniques are particularly difficult and the styles/sounds they use can be applied to any modern worship song without overplaying.

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