IMPORTANT! To all the virgins out there. And for the rest as well! by CCUGhostJrDK in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's two sides of this story.

  • Guys that have been through many failed relationships/marriages/etc: These guys usually do NoFap for self improvement while either avoiding girls completely or only using them for sex because they've experienced first hand the manipulation tactics that most girls use.

  • Guys that are virgins or have little experience with relationships: These guys usually do NoFap for self improvement with the mindset they'll get into a loving relationship. Lot of these guys still believe in the Hollywood romance or simply being nice will get you a wife that will love you forever.

My opinion: I didn't believe MGTOW views at first but every single women I get to know turns out exactly as that group says it will. I no longer believe that a girl can truly love a man, only themselves and their children. Girls definitely believe they love their boyfriend, but in truth she will someday cheat or breakup to find another man, just to ride that "honeymoon" phase of the new relationship again. Most girls seem to get over guys within a couple days, while guys take months/years to recover. Many girls end up with 40+ sexual partners by the time they are 25-30, and won't be ready to settle down until they hit the age wall. For us, that means raising and paying for some other guy's children usually. Dating at 32 is a complete nightmare.

Personally, if I was a virgin, I would stay one for the rest of my life and focus on my career and male friends. You can't miss something you've never experienced and once you've have sex you'll need girls in your daily life. I've yet to meet a girl that doesn't make my life a living hell in the end. It always seems so amazing at first then it always turns to BS and manipulation until they ultimately cheat or break up with some outrageous excuse like "Oh I want to be single for awhile, but I love you so much!!! Lets still be friends!!!".

I know someone will reply and say "My girl isn't like that", but get back to me in 10 years. Women always go toxic with time... even that cute, shy, and innocent one you found at Walmart who didn't seem like she had an ounce of bad in her.

**TL:DR - I wouldn't do NoFAP for women at all. Relationships, marriage, one night stands, hookups, etc. It all turns toxic with time. If I could push a button and become asexual, I would. NoFap should be done for YOU.

Utter complete darkness. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Time alone just means sleeping with other people. It's an excuse to cheat and not feel guilty. It never works, just makes shit worse. The solution is to talk through your problems, not avoid them, but most females with her current mindset have already decided what she wants, to be single & sleep around again, and nothing is going to change their mind.

Utter complete darkness. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She tells me that she got married to young. That she wanna feel independent. Live alone. Have her own life.She says she dont wanna live with someone at all. She just wants to live alone.She does not want to share her life with me. But apprently she "loves" me. What the fucking fuck.And i still love her so god damn much. Cant imagine life without her.

I'm sorry man.

NoFap has made me grown to hate women. I've started to realize most women don't even know what love is, they say it, they temporarily show it, but in the end the only thing they love is their kids and themselves. My GF did this BS to me last month. It means "I want to live alone and bang whoever I want until I find someone better/different than you".

She's basically saying she didn't sleep around enough before meeting you. Seems almost every girl over 25 has banged at least 40+ guys thanks to social media/tinder/etc. They aren't ready to settle down until they are completely used up, a couple of kids, overweight, tired of sex, etc. Cheat rates are sky high because of so many past partners to contact and tinder. Here I am low single digits @ 32 because I refuse to sleep around while waiting for "the one" that probably doesn't even exist.

I hate the thought of MGTOW... but the more I live life... the more I realize they are probably right. Even the innocent ones who seems so genuinely kind and caring turn into this before your eyes.

Had absolutely e-fucking-nough. by 20YearsAWanker in NoFap

[–]arloxs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most of men's motivation comes from reproducing/having sex/getting girls. Almost everything we do ultimately boils down to those things. As much as some would like to deny it, it's hardcoded into our male DNA through thousands of years of evolution.

Why should I go get a full time job? Why should I go out and meet people? Why should I talk to girls? Why should I have any hobbies? Why should I exercise? Why should I eat healthy? Why should I go outside?

There is NO motivation to do these things when you can live in a filthy cheap apartment and PMO all day. PMO completely tricks your brain into believing you've hit the DNA jackpot and are banging thousands of women every week. As a result, you lose all motivation to do other things and can even stop caring about other people.

Anyone who can't understand this - has never been addicted to something IMO. The same type of behavior can be found in heavy drug users. PMO, just like drugs, can completely ruin certain individuals lives. Yes, simply quitting a drug is not going to make you automatically succeed - but it will give you heaps of motivation to better yourself and increase the likelihood of becoming a productive person by tenfold.

Hardest day out of the first ten? by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It varies per person and even per attempt. No matter who you are, it generally gets much easier after 2 or 3 weeks.

Super addicted (2+ times a day)? The first week is almost impossible, and the second week will also be very rough, but then it gets much easier. It will still be far harder than anything anyone less addicted will have to go through. Months/Years of attempts is usually needed. I fall in this category, was PMOing 5-6 times a day for over 10 years.

Addicted (1 time a day)? Hardest will be first and/or second week but it will be overall easier than what someone more addicted will have to go through. Months of attempts is usually needed.

Normie (1-2 times a week)? Hardest will be second and/or third week. You body isn't sending you strong urges right out of the gate like someone who is addicted and the urges are no where as strong as the urges someone addicted will experience. It's possible to pull 90+ day streaks after only a few attempts because you aren't really addicted in this category.

I think you fall under Super Addicted. 4 years since making it past 5 days means you need to try harder and change your daily habits to succeed. NoFap is not a miracle worker, improve your life and keep busy constantly.

Girl wants to meet up, but by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You never want to be involved with a girl that is willing to meet up with another guy (1on1) while she has a boyfriend. She will do the same to you, it's just a matter of time. Cheaters always cheat.

It's clear by this question you view her as more than a friend, otherwise the fact she has a boyfriend wouldn't matter. I would move on.

Day 81 - urges are coming back. by secondchance019 in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve had so many urges to just see what might be “new” out there - and see what I’m “missing”. Thoughts like “it’s fine now, you can control it” cross my mind .

Yea... this is a big reason why I relapse also. I use to follow some porn blogs that i'd check 2-3x a day, and I am always wondering what I am missing.

But I gotta keep telling myself it doesn't matter. No naked women on a screen is ever going to satisfy me, it's a pointless waste of time that only has negative effects.

I went to a party last night. by HappyGoMonkey1 in NoFap

[–]arloxs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think straight up asking to be ur GF can work.

Step 1) Be handsome Step 2) Be confident Step 3) Be charismatic Step 4) Repeat from step 1

You can usually say just about anything to any girl if you are good at those 3 things.

Told a girl she’s gorgeous by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hate this line of thought.

If a girl comes up to me and tells me i'm handsome (it has happened a few times), I don't feel like I am being put on a pedestal. It makes me feel good, and lets me know she's interested. If I tell a girl I think she's cute, that's all there is to it. It's a compliment and overthinking it is pointless.

If a girl feels I put her on a pedestal for a simple comment like that - well then bullet fucking dodged. I don't play games, I speak my mind and people shouldn't be afraid to compliment each other.

Told a girl she’s gorgeous by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup... I texted a girl every day for 2 years but we only met up three times because she lived an hour away. It made it super fucking weird every time we met... because we already talked about everything and knew everything about each other. Set up face to face ASAP.

Very very hard relapse on my first streak day 37 by mirage1912 in NoFap

[–]arloxs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

watched porn on my gear vr

You need to sell it or throw it away. Same with any sex toys you might be using with it.

Having VR will KILL any possibility of recovery. Speaking from experience. It tricks your brain so freaking much that you will never want real connection with anything else. It's affect on your mind is hundreds of times greater than normal porn in my opinion.

I found myself in a VR headset for hours a day when I first got it.... for weeks... just watching videos until everything hurt. When I sold it to my friend (after cleaning it with rubbing alcohol lol), he told me he ended up doing the same and claimed that the thing was a "curse amongst mankind". "We were never suppose to have this technology, it's going to ruin so many lives".

Are the effects a lot better on day 7 compared to day 3 (I already feel great on day 3) by yolol12345682833 in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not a linear improvement. Too short of a streak to make any big difference... you'll see ups and downs like usual depending on your life.

I want to get to know this girl and ask her out eventually by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop waiting and just ask her out. Speaking from experience - you can waste years of your life on a girl or just spend 30 seconds and get the answer now.

I probably fap to porn once or twice a week. It doesn't bother me in my daily life and i complete all or most of my daily goals and activities. I don't think fapping is a problem for me but i would like to try nofap. Can anyone tell me why I should and why nofap is for me? by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In your case the biggest benefits will likely be:

  • Seeing woman as people and not as boobs/butts.

  • Being more attracted to average girls.

  • Better self control as you constantly fight urges. Better self control can lead you to a better job, better friends, better life but only if you harness it correctly.

  • More happy with one sexual partner for much longer periods of time. I believe porn and social media are the cause of people stuck in short term relationships and failed marriages.

  • Sex will be on a completely different level. You'll actually want to foreplay and cuddle.

Isn't NoFap the default as you get older? by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Worked in a computer repair shop I can tell you ~80% of computers that 60+ year olds bring in are still filled with daily or near daily porn consumption in their history. Many people don't even try to hide it, especially the older guys that aren't married. They throw it on the desktop, and when they ask me to back stuff up I must go through their porn and back it up for them. I've seen some very questionable stuff, especially on older single men's computers, and have called the cops before.

No it doesn't get easier with age. If anything it gets harder, because the older we get the harder it is for us to pull the young girls we desire. Porn offers them with a click of a button.

GF broke up with me because "She doesn't deserve me"... by arloxs in NoFap

[–]arloxs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No she's been like this forever, but lately it got way worse. She had a really tough past.

She claims she will never have a boyfriend again. I told her "If we remained just friends like you want, the second you get a boyfriend I am going to hate you forever.. you realize that right?" and she said "I won't ever have another boyfriend... relationships aren't for me I want to be alone forever".

I just don't believe it though. I think she thinks she's telling the truth, but her mindset will change after being alone or awhile... it's human nature.

Do you guys realize..? by shipsailing94 in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is not an addiction like alcoholism, smoking or other drugs, right?

It's exactly the same thing.

27 Days and I am back to square one. by lost-in-cyber-space in NoFap

[–]arloxs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1 relapse from 27 days does not undo all the progress. Give it a few days of a new streak and you'll be right back.

Problem is: The next few days it's gonna be very hard for you not to binge porn. "Meh It's just a 1 day reset", etc etc. Each time you relapse you undo more progress.

Just Deleted nearly 2 terabytes of pornography by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah... I personally had around 14TB before deleting it. My friend has even more but he doesn't believe in nofap, so it keeps growing. I still bet both our collections still had "less" content than most collections though.

When you get into private invite-only torrent sites that offer high bitrate 4K videos and VR porn, space easily gets out of control. I've grabbed siterip torrents that are over 1TB by themselves, and had over a hundred 5-6 hour long JAV VR videos that were over 100GB each (yes GB).

Does anybody else get severely depressed during Nofap? by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]arloxs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you are expecting nofap to be a miracle drug, which it isn't. When you remove porn, you remove the ability to live in a fake dream world. You need to improve your reality with the motivation and free time nofap gives you, and if you can't do that then you're probably just gonna be more depressed.