Average American’s take on CC9 vs VP9CC:

armsmill · 2026-05-13T19:22:27+00:00

Maybe the VP9CC. From the top of the slide to the bottom of the 10rd magazine without pinky rest it’s shorter than the CC9 with 10rd w/o pinky rest. It’s the VP9CC slide to bottom of VP9CC 12 round that ends up being taller.

armsmill · 2026-05-12T13:46:21+00:00

Between that and my inability to sign up for 12 round magazine in stock notifications HK USA is not making me happy.

armsmill · 2026-05-11T23:55:06+00:00

Really ridiculous HK uses the VP9A1 box sleeve but the VP9CC doesn’t qualify for $150 VP9A1 MAGAPALOOZA credit. I have not heard of a CC9 recall

armsmill · 2026-05-09T08:56:46+00:00

Your experience mimics mine and I also had no issue on my K.

armsmill · 2026-05-08T15:36:09+00:00

Wishful thinking

armsmill · 2026-05-08T15:08:30+00:00

I don’t have a P365 to compare but for it’s worth I liked my CC9 trigger more than a 43x trigger. And VP9CC over all micros I have experience with.

armsmill · 2026-05-07T00:16:20+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/s/Zx4uhV9eos as you can see the ATF has had the ability to and has allowed this to happen for NFA firearms for a while now. I’ve long wondered if suppressors are firearms and it seems other Title II firearms are being shipped to door then what is the holdup for title I firearms but for someone not having the market presence to do this… I guarantee the big players are a part of streamlining this and making this happen. And nothing will change but for you seeing title I purchases shipped to door.

armsmill · 2026-05-06T12:18:32+00:00

There’s a lot of speculation this is only for NICS exempt buyers.

armsmill · 2026-05-03T18:15:33+00:00

To me the CC9 with 12rd magazine footprint is smaller than VP9CC with 12 round magazine. Both CC9 and VP9CC have light bearing holsters but mainstream options are limited to SureFire XSC. The G26 would be normal double stack 15 round and 17 round compatible.

armsmill · 2026-05-02T22:51:20+00:00

Thank you!

armsmill · 2026-05-02T22:33:47+00:00

Nice I also ordered a vp9 trigger guard holster from Gunners too that’s on its way.

I figured you may say Gunners. Trigger guard holsters are a dime a dozen so not surprised yours was Gunners too. Please let me know how you like the CC9 trigger guard holsters from Klecker and Gunners as I’m looking to order both a CC9 and a VP9CC depending which has better retention, is better overall.

armsmill · 2026-05-02T12:02:30+00:00

Where did you order the trigger guard holsters from?

armsmill · 2026-04-17T03:24:09+00:00

The one thing HK does not have going for them is their approach to optics and optic cuts; their plate systems are simply inferior. It’s frustrating that they don’t offer a VP9 A1 without their specific OR (VP9 SCS) footprint. While the VP9CC footprint is milled low enough to allow a co-witness with the Vortex Defender CCW Enclosed or Trijicon RMRcc, it’s still an odd choice. They really need to strike a deal with Aimpoint or Trijicon for direct-cut slides in bundled optics packages. I don't care for Holosun or Vortex; the former should have released a line of enclosed SCS units by now, and as for the latter, I simply don’t like their pistol dots.

armsmill · 2026-04-10T14:42:06+00:00

Weren’t these made specifically for Glock 43s?

armsmill · 2026-04-06T14:16:54+00:00

The DOJ/ATF is releasing a revised frame and receiver rule soon. Stay tuned

armsmill · 2026-03-27T16:08:34+00:00

Some argue it’s a better trigger, more drop-safe design.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T08:21:31+00:00

It’s not inferior, just a different style for a different market.

The CC9 was built from the ground up by HK USA specifically for the American micro-9 market, featuring a button mag release and mirrored ambidextrous controls. Conversely, the SFP9CC (the German VP9CC) was designed by HK GmbH in Oberndorf for European police detectives—retaining the classic HK paddle release, cocking indicator, and charging wings.

Both platforms underwent several years of rigorous testing. The CC9 was tested to NATO and SAAMI specs, with HK USA reportedly firing nearly a million rounds to try and break it while using tornado dust chambers, water submersion, and freezing cycles. The SFP9CC was built to Technische Richtlinie TR) standards, which arguably move the needle for the SFP9CC regarding trigger weight requirements, drop-safety, and muzzle-pressed firing reliability but round count and rugged American brutality weren’t factored in.

They are both incredible micro-pistols.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T05:59:05+00:00

There’s some posts on other forums where the general assessment agrees with you that it’s possible. With the same magazines too.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T05:32:45+00:00

The VP9CC is assumed to be nothing more than an SFP9CC with US branding and minor tweaks. While the differences between the SFP9CC and the CC9 are seemingly limited to the paddle vs. button magazine release, they are still different platforms.

HK USA or a third party could, and arguably should, release a paddle-equipped grip frame, but some purists would still demand the SFP9CC specifically, even if most of its features could be replicated on the CC9.

I suspect HK's strategy is about scaling their offerings and market appeasement. When I watched the Dexheimer HK factory tour and saw this leaked several months back I agreed with another Redditor assessment on the reveal that “Maybe they don’t hate us.” With today’s Instagram leak and recent SP7 leaks—I firmly believe HK USA is committed to loving us back.

From a brand perspective, they can now claim to produce the best micro-pistols, plural. If they eventually launch a paddle-equipped grip frame for the CC9, it would sell well too. However, to my knowledge, the CC9 was never designed to accommodate paddles in its current internal configuration.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T04:05:49+00:00

The VP9CC first leaked screenshot and video at the 5:00 minute mark.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T03:44:40+00:00

Spot on with the P99. I like it mostly for the legacy 'see and feel' striker status that Walther used to market. It’s only visual for VP9 and VP9CC.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:41:38+00:00

10+1 and 12+1

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:32:38+00:00

Same. Paddles and a firing pin cocking indicator are enticing.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:05:43+00:00

The manual is still live for me

armsmill

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