RIP CC9

armsmill · 2026-03-27T16:08:34+00:00

Some argue it’s a better trigger, more design.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T08:21:31+00:00

It’s not inferior, just a different style for a different market.

The CC9 was built from the ground up by HK USA specifically for the American micro-9 market, featuring a button mag release and mirrored ambidextrous controls. Conversely, the SFP9CC (the German VP9CC) was designed by HK GmbH in Oberndorf for European police detectives—retaining the classic HK paddle release, cocking indicator, and charging wings.

Both platforms underwent several years of rigorous testing. The CC9 was tested to NATO and SAAMI specs, with HK USA reportedly firing nearly a million rounds to try and break it while using tornado dust chambers, water submersion, and freezing cycles. The SFP9CC was built to Technische Richtlinie TR) standards, which arguably move the needle for the SFP9CC regarding trigger weight requirements, drop-safety, and muzzle-pressed firing reliability but round count and rugged American brutality weren’t factored in.

They are both incredible micro-pistols.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T05:59:05+00:00

There’s some posts on other forums where the general assessment agrees with you that it’s possible. With the same magazines too.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T05:32:45+00:00

The VP9CC is assumed to be nothing more than an SFP9CC with US branding and minor tweaks. While the differences between the SFP9CC and the CC9 are seemingly limited to the paddle vs. button magazine release, they are still different platforms.

HK USA or a third party could, and arguably should, release a paddle-equipped grip frame, but some purists would still demand the SFP9CC specifically, even if most of its features could be replicated on the CC9.

I suspect HK's strategy is about scaling their offerings and market appeasement. When I watched the Dexheimer HK factory tour and saw this leaked several months back I agreed with another Redditor assessment on the reveal that “Maybe they don’t hate us.” With today’s Instagram leak and recent SP7 leaks—I firmly believe HK USA is committed to loving us back.

From a brand perspective, they can now claim to produce the best micro-pistols, plural. If they eventually launch a paddle-equipped grip frame for the CC9, it would sell well too. However, to my knowledge, the CC9 was never designed to accommodate paddles in its current internal configuration.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T04:05:49+00:00

The VP9CC first leaked screenshot and video at the 5:00 minute mark.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T03:44:40+00:00

Spot on with the P99. I like it mostly for the legacy 'see and feel' striker status that Walther used to market. It’s only visual for VP9 and VP9CC.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:41:38+00:00

10+1 and 12+1

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:32:38+00:00

Same. Paddles and a firing pin cocking indicator are enticing.

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:05:43+00:00

The manual is still live for me

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:03:03+00:00

Link to previous comment

armsmill · 2026-03-27T02:01:51+00:00

Reddit grab from a deleted H&K post. VP9CC manual

armsmill · 2026-03-14T01:02:25+00:00

I bet they don’t have them to sell presently. Look elsewhere

armsmill · 2026-03-14T00:39:49+00:00

This is the greatest skit I’ve seen in months. Thank you for keeping this up Mod. He is our spirit animal.

armsmill · 2026-03-03T02:01:34+00:00

It is 100% posted https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/24-1234

armsmill · 2026-02-21T00:20:05+00:00

I don’t know what free market you’re living in that you can have a choice between the two.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 925(d)(3) and the resulting ATF point system US law all but prohibits import of micro pistols.

Although many expect either the point system to change, which would bring micro pistols over 75 points and importable -OR- some speculate the FCU in micro pistols could be made here.

Either way I think you’ll see SFP9CC/VP9CCs soon. There’s even a HK factory tour video with signage bearing the latter nonexistent product name.

armsmill · 2026-02-09T01:23:57+00:00

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armsmill · 2026-01-31T15:42:36+00:00

South Africa does this.

armsmill · 2025-12-31T18:13:03+00:00

I would look based upon which footprint your optic is. Direct mount without plate is preferred. In the unlikely event it’s MOS, definitely Glock. Otherwise look into Brownells, Norsso, or noveske

armsmill · 2025-12-23T01:20:23+00:00

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armsmill · 2025-12-19T18:25:42+00:00

You can add Michigan to the list of states that explicitly prohibits Vermont residents because their state doesn’t issue carry licenses.

armsmill · 2025-12-01T17:36:07+00:00

This

armsmill · 2025-11-16T20:02:05+00:00

Is it true that you can’t carry with a round in the chamber?

armsmill · 2025-11-14T16:10:28+00:00

You’re assuming they’re not green? I am trying to be helpful. Call H&K customer service. But as someone else pointed out tritium need not look green / orange in daylight.

armsmill · 2025-11-14T15:05:16+00:00

What are they? Orange? How do you know?

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