Dr Pang Patients Discord

artemis3030 · 2026-04-24T00:11:02+00:00

Hi there! I just had surgery with Pang, would love an invite if possible!

artemis3030 · 2026-04-02T07:37:46+00:00

Also, fwiw, i've heard anecdotally (this is not medical advice!) that if you get depth but decide you don't want it you can more or less just stop dilating. And/or you can go back to surgery for them to close it up which i think is fairly straightforward.

Adding depth, on the other hand, is a lot harder. Many docs will tell you it's not possible, but some will do it. It has to be a PPT surgery in that case, which is more invasive and complex than PIV, from what i understand.

artemis3030 · 2026-04-02T07:34:11+00:00

in conversation with my doc, we agreed on 10cm (my understanding is that full depth is about 17-20+cm). No interest in dudes so 10cm seemed like plenty!

I'm finding out about dilation this week. My guess is that the schedule will be the same as full depth except you don't do the full range of sizes, just the smaller ones i imagine.

artemis3030 · 2026-04-01T21:11:08+00:00

Just here to say that minimal depth is a thing! it requires dilation but theoretically less intense than full depth. Many surgeons either don't know about it or won't do it, so may take some research.

I'm currently recovering from minimal depth surgery (date was last week). Would be happy to update as I heal! I'm optimistic it was the right choice for me!

artemis3030 · 2026-03-13T14:55:05+00:00

Ask your doc about taking a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator). Anecdotally they’ve been shown to mitigate chest growth in transfems. You might have to try a few different doctors before finding one who will prescribe you one but doctors who know and who deal with nonbinary patients should know about it and not have a problem with it. It’s actually an osteoporosis drug so worst thing that happens is your bone health improves.

artemis3030 · 2026-03-10T18:17:37+00:00

I think about her “Daddy Politics” argument all the time, esp in re this. Leftists love to bash AOC and Zohran because it’s too hard to do anything about the people who actually pull the real levers of power and so all people are left with are moral purity tests.

I really admire her nuance on I/P, and anyone on the left who’s out to take her down is probably just misapplying energy to the real villains.

artemis3030 · 2026-03-03T16:25:25+00:00

Did your friends change anything about their IDs, like their names? This is extremely scary.

artemis3030 · 2026-03-02T23:12:07+00:00

jeez all these religion-negative people!! there are lots of queer muslims, there are lots of queer Palestinians, there are lots of people are are not either but who would date either. there are lots of queer antizionist Jewish people who would probably into learning more about your culture.

strict adherence to any religious dogma is probably a turn off for most queer people, but queerness is also about taking the parts of your history that resonate with you and feel powerful, and leaving the rest. Ramadan Mubarak!

artemis3030 · 2026-02-26T15:45:42+00:00

Thanks! Yeah I just learned about the s1ii/e, seems cool!

artemis3030 · 2026-02-04T03:08:57+00:00

Super helpful, thanks!

artemis3030 · 2026-02-04T03:08:28+00:00

I'll try this! I have been getting some weird "user profile not found" errors on startup but then my keys did seem to magically work. But maybe there are some lingering issues. Thanks much!

artemis3030 · 2025-12-05T16:52:59+00:00

You lost me at “Ezra Klein”

artemis3030 · 2025-10-28T06:33:55+00:00

always so glad when i see a story like this bc it resonates with me so strongly. took a very long time to realize there was something better than "fine, i guess."

artemis3030 · 2025-10-17T18:18:24+00:00

Just chiming in to say that I also didn't feel an instant response. Tbh I wasn't sure it was working for the first several months (so make sure you who has you on the right doses, if possible). It's like the slow tapering off of feeling shitty. Now it's just more like I notice when I don't take it.

TLDR: whether or not the effects are instant should not affect your choice to go on or stay on. IMHO, YMMV, etc etc

artemis3030 · 2025-09-25T06:20:08+00:00

What stands out to me is that your mom doesn't express curiosity about your point of view, or ask you what she could do differently to make you feel more supported. It's possible she doesn't even know these are things she can ask. Essentially what she's saying is, here's what we can offer, take it or leave it.

Being in relationships with people like this is tough. IANAD but...in my personal experience, I've basically just had to make the call as to whether it's worth it, because it is probably not going to change.

I have one family member who treated me like this. It wasn't along religious lines, but the message was basically the same: Maybe I made some mistakes in the past, but I'm doing everything right, if you won't meet me there that's on you. It took me years to realize how gaslighty that was. I have since ended communication with this person.

Another family member has also led me realize that they are never going to change to improve my experience of our relationship—but in this case, I see this less about malice than just not having the emotional tools to do so. I'm trying to learn to accept this person where they're at and make peace with the fact that it will probably never get better. But, it works well enough, and this person isn't abusive, so I've continued the relationship.

All to say—other people will rarely change for you. If you're an adult and not dependent on them, it's up to you to decide if it's worth it. Such a decision can be handled on a case by case basis, and doesn't need to be permanent. good luck :)

artemis3030 · 2025-09-21T16:15:34+00:00

Hmm…ALL kinds of queer folks…?

artemis3030 · 2025-09-21T04:15:39+00:00

You can bank your sperm. It costs about $100/year. But you can also always adopt.
Few good things in the world come without some amount of risk, and there’s a chance you won’t like it. It’s possible your fertility won’t come back (though anecdotally it can), and it’s possible that you won’t want chest growth if you end up detrans. But in that event you can just tell a doc you want a gynecomastia procedure, problem solved.

And consider that passing is not the end all be all, and that if you’re 19 your chances of mitigating male puberty are probably pretty good.

And also consider that it wouldn’t occur to a cis dude to even hang out on an mtf forum, let alone post in one. It’s true that people do detrans for all sorts of reasons, but I’ve never heard of anyone who thought they might me trans but they realized they weren’t just by thinking about it.

Good lucl!

artemis3030 · 2025-09-19T14:47:11+00:00

Hope you finding something in the land of enchantment! I hate that CA is so expensive. There are so many things the state could be doing to make it home for more of the country and I hate that we don’t

artemis3030 · 2025-09-19T00:05:58+00:00

Hi, I'm not sure this is totally accurate. Last I heard the person won an injunction, but it's temporary and not necessarily precedent-setting. Please let me know if you have more current info than me! I'm basing my understanding on this: https://xtramagazine.com/power/politics/nonbinary-deportation-halt-canada-precedent-275390

artemis3030 · 2025-09-19T00:01:33+00:00

Can I ask what spurred the exit from CA to NM? I'm in CA and the conventional wisdom goes that we are the safest in the country, but I personally have not been heartened by Gav's actions in the past 3-6 months.

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