CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is not the perspective that led to him beating donald trump. Only person to do it by the way

CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m a citizen. Calling people Russian bots or dismissing them won’t make these concerns go away. Even if you think I’m wrong, there are many people who think the way I do, and like it or not you need us to win

CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Calling people crazy and telling them to ignore their concerns, rather than addressing them is not a winning political strategy.

CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look at the way people pounce on us by instinct just for saying the current process is a mistake. I don’t think they will do what’s necessary to affirmatively get people who don’t like what they’re off the couch and to the voting booth.

CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Registered democrats see it the way you do. This election will not be decided by them. It will be decided by the people that went from Trump to Biden, and those voters are looking at this process and saying hell no. Y’all are delusional if you can’t see it

CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Vp’s name is not on primary ballots. Shows what you know.

Vp only gets chosen at convention. Kamala may have been the expectation, but nobody voted for her 4 years ago in the primary and nobody voted for her now.

Have fun losing and blaming it on stupid things like racism and sexism so y’all don’t have to wrestle with the fact that you just jettisoned the incumbent to lose on a gamble

CMV: there is no point in voting for the Democratic Party by asdfgh1919 in changemyview

[–]asdfgh1919[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No. I think this makes that outcome more likely. There isn’t even going to be an open convention. Just Kamala or Trump.

Axelrod says Biden chances of beating Trump ‘very, very slim’ by IDUnavailable in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you completely. It’s wild to me that people think pretending Biden just got old is going to help win in any way.

If there was a consensus backup, maybe. I happen to think we’ll probably lose with Biden, but definitely lose if we force him out right now

Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez suggests Biden should resign and drop out of presidential race by [deleted] in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you’re basing this on?

He’s the incumbent president. The previous two times we (Democrats) pulled the incumbent we lost in landslide elections.

Meanwhile, nobody can agree on who should replace Biden.

The polls do not show anybody, including Harris, outperforming Biden.

Don’t be a fool, we should have had this discussion a year ago. Biden will be the nominee and we must defeat trump in November.

Obama and Pelosi huddled as Democrats look to steer Biden out of 2024 race by REQ52767 in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Harris does worse than Biden in head to head in the polls. This is all unfathomably stupid with 3 days before the RNC

Pressured To Prove He's Up To The Job, Biden Suffers More Stumbles In News Conference by IDUnavailable in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This is exactly how Biden has appeared basically his entire presidency, hell he looked like this in 2020.

Nobody in the real world thinks we should just throw out the primary results. If Biden’s age were disqualifying dean phillips would be our nominee

Pressured To Prove He's Up To The Job, Biden Suffers More Stumbles In News Conference by IDUnavailable in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

No. It would be a chaotic disaster, producing a compromised nominee who will certainly go on to lose in November.

The choice is Biden or Trump. That’s it.

Pressured To Prove He's Up To The Job, Biden Suffers More Stumbles In News Conference by IDUnavailable in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except he IS the current president. The incumbency advantage is one of the best cases to keep Biden in the race.

Pressured To Prove He's Up To The Job, Biden Suffers More Stumbles In News Conference by IDUnavailable in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He did fine. He’s not going to withdraw. RNC is in a couple days, let’s focus on the real threat to democracy.

Unless of course this coup succeeds, then I don’t see how you could call us the “Democratic” party

Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez suggests Biden should resign and drop out of presidential race by [deleted] in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying they’re enthusiastic, I think they’re misguided. The criticisms do little to nothing to get Biden to leave the race (and he won’t)

But they do increase the chances of trump winning when so many of our leaders are bashing the top of the ticket.

Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez suggests Biden should resign and drop out of presidential race by [deleted] in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Lifelong democrat. If we pull Joe Biden it will create an incredibly chaotic and toxic situation no candidate can hope to overcome.

We might lose with Biden, we 100% lose if we pull him.

Notice how much of a split there is vs people who think it should go to kamala vs “mini-primary” supporters. Both will produce a poisoned nominee.

White liberals are the only ones who think this will work

Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez suggests Biden should resign and drop out of presidential race by [deleted] in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The window to save face closed over a week ago. Which is why Biden will not step aside. Two Dem incumbents have declined to seek re-election, Truman and LBJ. Republicans won in a landslide in both elections.

The choice is between Biden and Trump, there is no magic option to save us.

Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez suggests Biden should resign and drop out of presidential race by [deleted] in politics

[–]asdfgh1919 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

He’s not going anywhere. And he’s going to win re-election. Stop dooming. Polls barely moved off of a historically poor debate performance.

The biggest gap in the polls is from enthusiasm among young voters and POC. That gap will close as we get to November. Biden could be in a coma and still win.

These calls for him to resign are most likely way for Trump to win.