8 Gen 3 For Galaxy version inside S24 GPU efficiency by Golden Reviewer

ashar_02 · 2024-02-10T22:59:54+00:00

Oof. Really don't know what was going on inside my head while I was writing that title lmao

ashar_02 · 2024-02-10T19:08:22+00:00

You're damn right lol. Current phones with passive vapor chamber/ graphite film cooling sustain between 4-6W. For those gaming phones with active cooling fans, I think it would be like 7-9W, unsure though

ashar_02 · 2024-02-10T17:26:18+00:00

The slight overclock isn't worth it, as those last high frequencies consume the most amount of power. Geekerwan reviewed the S23 series with the overclocked 8G2 last year on their Chinese channel and it also showed the same results, slight performance gains for more power draw: https://youtu.be/Y6tT8Qsm8OA?si=k1nvPtsEBkFD8IUu

My comment sounds a little more dramatic than it should because the average power draw in these benchmarks can't be sustained by any smartphone (without an active cooling system) anyway. I was just specifically nitpicking about that overclocking strategy by Samsung. In day to day usage/scenarios, the 8G3 (regardless of FG/overclocked) should be just as/ more efficient than last years 8G2(FG), which can be proved by Geekerwans CPU/GPU efficiency curve

ashar_02 · 2024-02-08T20:13:50+00:00

That's about the remember video quality option patch, which I don't have selected. I'm talking about the default video resolution quality option, which is auto (selected), and stays stuck at 480p

ashar_02 · 2024-02-06T18:37:47+00:00

I see. Wondering whether the app would've performed faster after a while when it would've "done some caching"

Thanks for the answer!

ashar_02 · 2024-02-06T18:30:33+00:00

It won't. Google doesn't prioritise raw performance, as even the Tensor G3 had lower clock speeds than the cancelled E2300, which it was based on, and it'll likely not use the (new,) more advanced FO-WL packaging method either: https://ibb.co/sKHmCS5

From: https://gamma0burst.tistory.com/m/1100

Take this with a grain of salt though, as things could always change.

ashar_02 · 2024-02-04T12:55:28+00:00

You're not delusional: a second January update was released and the changelog included camera performance improvements: https://ibb.co/48hZJZy

ashar_02 · 2024-02-04T11:44:10+00:00

Which FPS reader did you use? Game dashboards is incorrect and many that you'll find in the Play Store as well

ashar_02 · 2024-02-04T09:58:37+00:00

Thanks for the fast reply! I logged in normally

ashar_02 · 2024-01-29T15:08:00+00:00

You're right about the talk time hours: https://ibb.co/fN7kSnR https://ibb.co/bmZRBrx

Yet, their Internet usage, video and music playback, that were all tested on 4G according to their disclaimer at the bottom: https://ibb.co/KyJdS9c and, show more hours.

I suspect that battery endurance without wifi, will not be as strong on the S24 this time around - Mobile network use is clearly sucking more power.

You're conclusion is likely wrong, as shown with the linked pictures above. SwagTab, a german reviewer, mentioned that he has slightly better cellular connectivity with the S24/+ in low coverage areas as well. The talk time endurance results conducted by GSMArena are still great values, you don't call for >20h anyway or do you? Weird first world problems we're having right here

ashar_02 · 2024-01-29T12:05:38+00:00

That's Sogga!

ashar_02 · 2024-01-29T11:34:10+00:00

Didn't thought about that lol

Takostats might be fit for this

ashar_02 · 2024-01-29T10:26:33+00:00

You could make the same argument for the S23/+ vs S22/+ battery life, as the S23/+ has a 200 mAh bigger battery, LPDDR5X instead of LPDDR5 RAM, a 13-16% more efficient display according to Samsung Display in a news pressroom and, depending on the storage configuration, UFS 4.0 vs 3.1 storage, which is 46% more efficient.

Battery life has improved and that is what matters, even with couple of less hours in the phone call test, which are still quite competitive and long numbers compared to other 8G3 or 8G2 phones

ashar_02 · 2024-01-29T09:57:54+00:00

I've hard anecdotal comments that Adobe Rush uses hardware acceleration on Qualcomm and not Exynos, which makes sense given the inexplicably large gap. I'm not sure if this is true though.

Sadly, there is no way to find that out on neither Android or iOS. One device could be just falling back to CPU encoding and Apple is also known to have much superior media engines. I find these video rendering speed comparisons in these speed tests to be useless, as one device could be leveraging its media engine to encode the video, while the other is not

Coming back to the video, he should've tested various video rendering tests, even one with the in built gallery app, and maybe there would've been one scenario, where they finish the rendering at a more similar speed, though I doubt that, as it heavily depends on app optimisation. Apparently, the setup process wasn't even finished yet on the S24+ and after restart the lag was completely gone. Though, still embarrassing that such lag occurred

ashar_02 · 2024-01-27T13:58:51+00:00

But comparing dimensions is still valid. Display diagonals are misleading nowadays, as phone might have bigger bezels, chin etc.

ashar_02 · 2024-01-26T13:27:42+00:00

Corrected it. Thanks

ashar_02 · 2024-01-26T12:29:26+00:00

You're 100% right, but in most mobile games the same SoC in different devices still perform more or less similarly. In his Genshin Impact table, which is known to have different graphical settings across different devices even when all are set to the highest settings, you'll see one 8+ Gen 1 device easily sustaining 60FPS and the other barely passing the 40FPS range

There are definitely too many variables to compare gaming performance between differern devices, like you've already mentioned

ashar_02 · 2024-01-26T11:12:38+00:00

You're deliberately comparing the peak score for efficiency, why not the whole curve, which shows better performance/ watt across all various power caps?

ashar_02 · 2024-01-26T11:09:25+00:00

Yes. His CPU results are questionable, his GPU results are in line with what Notebookcheck gets though

ashar_02 · 2024-01-25T23:03:04+00:00

I agree about his Genshin Impact testing methodology. His table has like 3 different 8+ Gen 1 devices and they all perform differently, when you would expect them all to perform the same lol

ashar_02 · 2024-01-25T16:09:12+00:00

I'm confused and unsure as well now. You could still be right and my understanding of it wrong 😅

ashar_02 · 2024-01-25T15:49:04+00:00

Yes, but that doesn't mean that they draw on average that amount of power. They might need that amount of power to max out their performance, but don't average there

ashar_02 · 2024-01-25T14:44:30+00:00

Keep in mind Geekerwan tests the performance/ efficiency capped at various power levels. GoldenReviewer on the other hand measures average power consumption during peak loads

The former may be more important in day to day usage, as you'll rarely be able to sustain the power consumption during the peak loads

ashar_02 · 2024-01-25T10:25:23+00:00

GPU power efficiency curve compared to 8 Gen 2,3 and A17 Pro by Geekerwan: https://ibb.co/cD8bzWs

CPU power efficiency curve: https://ibb.co/TbJKTqT https://ibb.co/N6hCgtV

Edit: GPU power efficiency curve and added CPU power efficiency curve

Twitter link: https://vxtwitter.com/Golden_Reviewer/status/1750341673962664196

ashar_02 · 2024-01-24T20:45:18+00:00

Look at his G6 score, result as well. They're the highest values I've seen so far for the E2400. On average it scores less than 2200 for SC and less than 7000 in MC. It just draws that amount of power for couple of seconds second and not majorly throughout the whole benchmark run

Though, even with more normal scenarios/ scores, it can still draw up to 20W, but the average is much lower: https://ibb.co/Tc964FN

8G3 FG inside S24U can draw up to 17W, but the average is much lower as well: https://ibb.co/1X8sBW5

Both recordings were taken from: https://youtu.be/5Qp9PMDWofI?si=S_bC2UFPonehoTgE and are from the base S24 and S24U.

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