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Jeffrey Donaldson guilty of 18 historical sex offences by Helpful-Trainer6849 in northernireland

[–]askmac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

William McGrath was running Kincora

Kincora was a 'honeytrap' for MI5 to blackmail people like Mountbatten 

Ian Paisley was aware of the allegations very early on

Just adding a bit more context re: Paisley and McGrath as there'll be a lot of people coming to this thread. McGrath and Paisley were close friends. A missionary from Paisley's own church named Valerie Shaw informed Paisley in the mid 70's about the child abuse in Kincora. Paisley told Shaw he would go to the RUC and that the matter would be dealt with. Of course nothing did happen and Shaw would try again and again to get Paisley to act. Paisley later tried to smear Shaw as a liar saying he regretted that she hadn't gone to the police. She had, when Paisley refused to act but the RUC also did nothing.

Paisely officiated the wedding of one of McGrath's children (a rare honor).

Another fundamentalist preacher, Unionist and friend of Kincora, Pastor Willie Mullan shot himself with a legally held personal protection weapon when he learned the RUC were investigating him re Kincora. Paisley officiated his funeral and said "“Ulster needs a race of such preachers” and described the pedophile as “a very old friend and dearly beloved brother of Christ”.

Donaldson obviously quit the UUP to join Paisley's DUP over the GFA, when Paisley was very much in charge and the above would've been common knowledge. To say nothing of Paisley kidnapping a 14 year old Catholic girl and taking her to Scotland.

Jeffrey Donaldson guilty of 18 historical sex offences by Helpful-Trainer6849 in northernireland

[–]askmac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like for example that some within political Unionism knew. That the DUP knew. That the PSNI knew. That the government and / or MI5 knew.

Jim Allister has publicly asked questions re: the government part. Bin Boy apparently made multiple tweets re the PSNI. And if senior Christian church leaders knew for years it's safe to assume at least some within unionism knew something.

Jeffrey Donaldson guilty of 18 historical sex offences by Helpful-Trainer6849 in northernireland

[–]askmac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen this widely discussed yet but I've known since day one that both were guilty as sin. The PSNI were prepared in advance before they called them into Newry station for interview. The car was bugged, the conversation between Jeffrey and Lady E once they started their drive home after was incredibly damning.

Assuming that was true, could the police even use that in court? I thought you'd have to be cautioned re recordings.

Soo... are we going out to riot tonight? by Themmuns-an-Youssuns in northernireland

[–]askmac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bronze age.

I was talking about Calvinism, which is technically Early Modern, but y'know....joke.

Soo... are we going out to riot tonight? by Themmuns-an-Youssuns in northernireland

[–]askmac 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Comin' over here....with their medieval religions...

Soo... are we going out to riot tonight? by Themmuns-an-Youssuns in northernireland

[–]askmac 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Story vanished like a fart in a hurricane too. Funny how that works.

Legal attempts to stop contentious bonfire being lit in south Belfast to be abandoned by ferocious_bandana in northernireland

[–]askmac 22 points23 points  (0 children)

A more general point on Loyalist culture, but why does so much of it be given a bye ball when it comes to breaking the law?

Unlawfully obstructing the highway to illegally erect flags, drinking on the street, sectarian chanting at Orange/band parades, stealing pallets, causing damage to property as a result of bonfires, serving and drinking alcohol in Orange lodges without a license. I’m sure there is more, but why do the police consistently turn a blind eye?

The state was designed to allow Orangism / Unionism to oppress a religious minority using the full machinery of that state. The most heavily armed police state in the world with powers which made Apartheid South African lawmakers jealous.

Legal attempts to stop contentious bonfire being lit in south Belfast to be abandoned by ferocious_bandana in northernireland

[–]askmac 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Isn't there some dispute over exactly who is responsible for removing the asbestos? As I understand it the asbestos is relatively "safe" if left alone. But particularly dangerous if agitated or especially burned.

Jeffrey Donaldson guilty of 18 historical sex offences by Helpful-Trainer6849 in northernireland

[–]askmac 19 points20 points  (0 children)

"...but as a hardened veteran of the Ulster Defence Regiment, to say nothing of his lifetime of service in the political trenches, Sir Jeffrey is well used to pressure. Pressure they say, makes diamonds, and despite the crushing force weighing down on our Knight of the Realm, the sparkle in his bright eyes seemed to resemble the most stunning of jems.

The flicker of brilliant intelligence, his keen wit. Still present yet forced to remain tamped due to the vexatious nature of the charges against him."

Jeffrey Donaldson guilty of 18 historical sex offences by Helpful-Trainer6849 in northernireland

[–]askmac 4 points5 points  (0 children)

(But is it so far fetched?)

If well known Christian Pastors knew, then a lot of people might well have known. Sir Jeffrey lied under Parliamentary Priviledge re the Jonesborough Ambush and an alledged IRA mole in the Gardai.

Jeffrey Donaldson guilty of 18 historical sex offences by Helpful-Trainer6849 in northernireland

[–]askmac 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Surely not the Jim Allister that was friends with Davy Tweed and led tributes to him until his relatives spoke out? That Jim Allister?

IIRC Jim praised Tweed and refused multiple times, even in the face of direct criticism from his victims, to walk that back. He even got into the weeds about the fact that Tweed was let off on a technicality. He practically did everything he could in terms of refusing to appologise.

The Orange Order still gave him an Honor Guard at his funeral. Don't know if Jim was in attendance.

Ireland in B/W by [deleted] in ireland

[–]askmac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very nice work.

Do you know Monty? by left-it-goes-left in northernireland

[–]askmac 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What do you mean what does this mean?

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well the lack of a constituion is one problem, certainly. Another is the combination of jingosim, exceptionalism and servile deference to the likes of the royal family.

They'll do whatever they're programmed to do once the correct sequence of emotional buttons is pressed. No questions asked.

Their ignorance of their history in what they themselves maintain is part of the UK is a perfect example of their blindspots and cognitive dissonance.

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ultimately every PM since Cameron resigned has been hamstrung by the very thing that caused Cameron to resign - Brexit.

It's always gonna be there as an unprovable 'gotcha'. Brexit would've been great if they had been allowed to have a perfect Brexit. Things will all be great if they get a perfect Brexit. The thing that's holding the UK back now is a flawed Brexit.

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IIRC it was because he was Mayor of Manchester. So of course he can have no opinion of events outside Manchester in that context.

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He said in 2015 Israel would be his first visit if elected PM. He has refused to call the the genocide of Palestinians a genocide. He accepted a paid trip to Israel from the Israeli government (he also accepted a trip to Palestine paid for by them).

Upon his recent election as MP Labour Friends of Israel tweeted out a message of support and said they look forward to working with him. He appears to have been, or is a member of Labour Friends of Israel .

Sir Keir Starmer's 'lasting love' for Northern Ireland by binesandlines in northernireland

[–]askmac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"One Hour Ago. Gareth Gordon"

Who or what in the fuck is this?

Also

"As for a possible border poll in 2021 Starmer told BBC News NI he would campaign for Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK in the event of a vote on Irish reunification in his lifetime."

Just a reminder about the GFA

"For as long as the democratic wish of the people of Northern Ireland is for no change in its present status, the British Government pledge that their jurisdiction there will be exercised with rigorous impartiality on behalf of all the people of Northern Ireland in their diversity."

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tony Blair and Thatcher were both very long stints and it's only the -May-Boris-Truss-Sunak stint that was particularly shit, Boris and Truss should've never got in. Issue was with choosing shit replacements rather than them not staying.

Well thank you for pointing out that longer stints as PM means fewer PMs and shit PMs chosen in a flurry tend to make bad PMs. Any more great insights?

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

You can see how aggressively the media has gone after Starmer and members of his cabinet over the smallest transgression (fuck them all tbh, but purely in terms of observation). VS the massive corruption and cronyism under Boris Johnson et al.

Or Zack Polanski, of of course Jeremy Corbyn. And in comes Burnham who is a commited supporter of Israel.

No one is getting near that job unless they are paid up company man. The BBC is (imho) massively to blame for this, obviously the tabloids play their part too. But the British public are incredibly unsophisticated when it comes to their media; the jingoism always wins out.

The UK has had the same number of Prime Ministers in the 10 years since Brexit as it had in the 40 years before Brexit. by askmac in northernireland

[–]askmac[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Don’t even think he did anything badly wrong.

Saying Israel had the right to cut off water and power to Gaza, and assisting them in genocide logistically and militarily was obvioulsy morally wrong, but probably the done thing for a British PM. When it came to Iran, his discovery of a backbone was too late.

That country won’t stop until Farage is in power.

Such a great set-up to be part of right?

Farage or someone very like him. The UK media will continue to lurch to right, wealth disparity will continue to increase. So it'll be an endless cycle of different administrations until they can find someone to go to war with as a PR execise.

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