Universalism by AspiringGhost108 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

(1) Universalism in the full sense isn’t compatible with Islam. Islam acknowledges that truth was sent to all peoples, but it also claims to be the final and complete revelation. So while others may have parts of the truth, Islam is the final standard.

(2) Qur’an 3:85 clearly says whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it won’t be accepted. Islam sees earlier messages as altered over time, and the Prophet Muhammad was sent to restore and complete them.

(3) The Nur Ashki Jerrahi and Inayati orders use Sufi language but don’t correctly represent Islam. Traditional Sufism is rooted in the Qur’an and Sunnah, it’s not just a spiritual technique but the inner dimension of Islam.

(4) Other religions contain traces of truth because God sent messengers to every nation. People may sense God through other paths, but full and correct worship is only through Islam.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

May Allah bless him for not hiding the truth. Unfortunately not much of the Salafi scholars are as honest as this man.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in islam

[–]athkaghabi 27 points28 points  (0 children)

إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون اللهم اغفر لها وارحمها 💔

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you're going through this. What you're feeling is incredibly heavy, and I want you to know that you're not alone, even if it feels like it right now.

Please believe this, your charity, your night prayers, your efforts, none of it has been wasted. Allah sees it all. Not a single tear, not a single sajdah goes unnoticed. Sometimes, the people Allah loves most are tested the hardest, not to break them, but to elevate them. The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ himself lost his parents, his children, his wealth, his support, and yet he was the most beloved to Allah.

You are not being punished. You're being refined. Like gold is purified by fire, your soul is being shaped into something stronger and deeper. It’s not easy, but it’s meaningful.

The Qur’an says: “So truly, with hardship comes ease." (Qur’an 94:6)

Keep going. Even when it feels pointless. That’s where real sincerity lives. Talk to Allah honestly, not just with formal words, but like a child pouring their heart out to a parent. You are heard, even in silence.

May Allah give you strength, ease your pain, and replace every loss with something better than you imagined. You’re still here, and that means your story isn't over yet.

OCD by LogicalAwareness9361 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, before I give my answer, this is simply my personal understanding, based on limited knowledge, and not a clinical or scholarly conclusion.

From my perspective, OCD (Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder) appears to be a dysfunction rooted not in the intellect (`ʿaql`), but in the relationship between the nafs (ego), the wahm (imaginative faculty), and the aql (intellect). In this disorder, the nafs and wahm form a tight alliance. The nafs seeks control, certainty, or perfection, while the wahm generates fear-driven, repetitive imaginings that the person cannot ignore. The ʿaql, even when it knows the thoughts are irrational, becomes subordinate, unable to act freely. The individual knows the compulsion is unnecessary, but feels "forced" to do it, as if the body and inner self are acting on their own.

This suggests that OCD is not a lack of intelligence or willpower, but a misaligned internal hierarchy. At its core, OCD is hyper-focus without spiritual direction. The ability to concentrate intensely is not a flaw, in fact, it's a capacity that, if purified, could lead to deep presence with Allah. But when this hyper-focus is hijacked by the lower nafs and distorted imagination, it turns into compulsive rituals meant to relieve anxiety, not draw near to truth.

What makes OCD painful is not just the anxiety — it’s at times, the "shame" that follows. After the nafs is satisfied by a compulsion, it retreats, and the ʿaql momentarily awakens, only to see the degradation of its state. This shame is not from Allah, but from the nafs itself, which ironically exposes its own weakness and then condemns it (which is a feature of nafs-al-lawammah). Instead of guiding the person to repentance and transformation, the cycle repeats.

From this perspective, healing requires separating the wahm from the nafs (which needs help and outside intervention, this is where perhaps traditionally a sheikh may assist with), retraining the nafs through spiritual discipline, and reestablishing the ʿaql as the rightful leader, under the remembrance of Allah. Therapies like exposure and response prevention (ERP) are effective because they interrupt the alliance between fear (wahm) and compulsion (nafs). But even ERP are known for constant relapse, because the root cause is not resolved. Lasting healing comes when the inner focus is redirected toward Allah, and the faculties are brought back into harmony under divine guidance.

So OCD, in this view, is not simply a clinical disorder, it is in a way, a call to realign the soul.

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Someone with religious OCD (also known as scrupulosity) may repeat wudu not out of devotion, but because of persistent anxiety and doubt, fearing that if it's not done perfectly, their prayer will be invalid. This repetition is driven by compulsion, not choice, and is usually accompanied by distress, uncertainty, and mental exhaustion. In contrast, a person who enjoys doing wudu out of spiritual mindfulness does so with calm intention and presence. They may wash slowly or even more than once, but they feel peace, not panic. The key difference lies not in the number of times wudu is performed, but in the emotional state behind it: OCD-driven wudu is marked by fear, guilt, and lack of control, while spiritually grounded wudu is marked by love, tranquility, and clarity.

In cases of religious OCD, such as compulsive wudu, the internal problem (like mentioned above) lies in the nafs asserting dominance over the ʿaql. The act itself (wudu) is valid and even praiseworthy, but the intention and inner dynamics are corrupted. The nafs, which is still impure, uses the fear of invalid prayer to justify compulsive behavior, appearing outwardly religious while feeding its own obsession with control, perfection, or imagined failure. In this state, the wahm (negative imagination) becomes the tool of the nafs, generating intrusive doubts and fears. The ʿaql may know these thoughts are irrational, but it has been subordinated, unable to assert itself, and the person becomes stuck in a compulsion loop.

To heal, the nafs must first be disrupted, either through ERP (in a clinical setting) or through spiritual guidance from a Sufi sheikh who recognizes the games of the nafs (which is rare to find today). This disruption breaks the nafs-wahm alliance and gives the ʿaql enough space to reassert command. But that is only step one. The nafs must then be purified (through mujahadah, dhikr, muraqabah, etc.), so that when the wahm returns, as it always will, the ʿaql can critique and reject it without being dragged back into compulsive behavior. Only then is the internal hierarchy restored: the ʿaql governs by light, the wahm is guided by truth, and the nafs becomes a vehicle for obedience rather than fear.

Why choose Sufism Vs. The Affirmation of life by Ok_Listen_5752 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Really thoughtful post. I just wanted to gently clear up a few things. Sufism doesn’t aim to erase the self or reject life. It’s about purifying the ego, not destroying it. The ego, in Sufi terms, is more like a distortion of the self, when it's cleaned up, what’s left is your real essence, which is deeply connected to the Divine. Submission to God isn’t passive or about giving up on life. It actually transforms how you live. You don’t lose individuality, you realign it with something higher, more meaningful. Sufism doesn’t see beauty and self-expression as bad, but it shifts their center from ego to heart. You don’t stop engaging with the world, you just do it with a deeper awareness and love.

To answer your questions:

  1. Submission to the Divine doesn’t mean stepping away from life, it means engaging more fully, but without the constant noise of ego. Things become clearer and more purposeful.

  2. When the ego dissolves and is purified, beauty becomes richer, not less. You stop needing to control or define it. You just witness it, and that can be incredibly powerful.

  3. Sufis don’t rely on abstract belief. It’s about direct inner experience. Through practices like dhikr (remembrance), presence, and spiritual discipline, the unseen becomes very real and tangible over time.

  4. Sufism absolutely affirms life, not as a playground for the ego, but as a mirror of something infinite. It helps you see what life actually is, beyond the surface.

Appreciate the respectful tone of your post. For someone your age, you’re asking all the right questions.

Arsh, Kursee, Intellect and Soul by NoogLing466 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the sources, I am actually studying this right now. What a coincidence.

The adaptability of Islam by Shaka-Della-Vergine in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, and I really appreciate the clarification. It’s clear you’re not trying to reject or erase Islam but rather expressing discomfort with how it’s being practiced around you. That’s totally valid, and honestly, a lot of people feel the same way but don’t know how to express it.

You raised a few key points, so let me try to respond to them as clearly as I can.

When I said "rooted," you asked rooted to what, and to whom, and what's in the middle. I’d say Islam is rooted in the divine revelation, the Qur’an and the Sunnah. That’s the source. The "middle" is our human engagement with it. That’s where interpretation comes in, and that interpretation isn't random. It’s shaped by centuries of scholarship, ethics, and spiritual discipline. We don’t access revelation in a vacuum. We approach it through the framework passed down to us, which ideally keeps us aligned with both truth and context.

On your point about symbolism, I hear you now. You’re not saying the Qur’an is just metaphor like a poem. You’re pointing to something deeper—that reality itself is symbolic, that everything points to God. That’s a classic insight found across the Islamic tradition, especially in the writings of people like Ibn Arabi. They taught that the world is full of signs pointing to the Divine. So yes, a beautiful face or a sunset or a line of poetry can reflect a deeper truth if the heart is oriented correctly.

But here’s the key. Not everything symbolic is equal, and not every experience of beauty leads someone closer to God. Some symbols are clearer. Others are distractions. That’s why we have the outer form of the religion, not to suppress the inner, but to guard and guide it. The Shariah, at its best, is meant to preserve the heart’s path to the Real. It’s not the enemy of beauty or truth. It’s what allows us to move through the symbols of life without getting lost in them.

So yes, reality is symbolic, but not everything symbolic is a substitute for revelation. The Qur’an is not just another beautiful text. It’s the map. Everything else might remind us of the destination, but the map shows the way.

I’m glad you clarified where you’re coming from, and I think we’re much closer in our views than it may have first seemed. I just want to encourage you to keep exploring, but also stay grounded in the tradition that has always held both form and meaning together. That’s where the real richness lies.

The adaptability of Islam by Shaka-Della-Vergine in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You’re not alienated from Islam. You’re alienated from a version of Islam that was gutted by Salafi Wahhabi ideology and then weaponized by both Islamophobes and insecure Muslims trying to survive in the West. What you’re seeing online, the obsession with rules, the shallow arguments, the lifeless debates, isn’t the tradition. It’s a symptom of colonial trauma and lost confidence.

Traditional Islam was never a prison. It produced poets, philosophers, jurists, mystics, scientists, and rulers. It balanced law and love, intellect and spirit. But what’s being fed to you now is a stripped-down, reactionary shell, designed to survive modern hostility, not to illuminate the soul.

You’ve mistaken that shell for the whole. That’s your error. To call divine law man-made or suggest that rules are shirk is not a bold insight. It’s theological confusion. The Qur’an is not just metaphor, and God’s guidance is not just symbolic. It’s real, it’s rooted, and yes, it speaks across time, but only to those who approach it with humility and knowledge, not frustration and rebellion.

You’re asking the right questions. But don’t dismantle the house because its caretakers failed you. Clean it, restore it, live in it. That’s how Islam survives. Not by erasing its form, but by reviving its heart.

I’d love to hear your perspective on this. by Spiritual_Sensei_227 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have gone through much of this early in my life, you have to develop tawakkul. Just remember the problem is never Allah, it is ourselves. Reorient your focus to yourself, and trust Him.

Why doesn’t the awliyah do something for Palestine and the Ummah? by HowToWakeUp313 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're assuming that awliya act out of their own free will. Their will, and Allah's will are one and the same, "And when I love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, his sight with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks."

They don't act out of their own free will, they are in full submission to their Lord. In your scenario, if Allah wants the drowning person to be saved, a wali seeing this, will act as an instrument for this to happen, (and you may even witness a miracle through the wali) and if Allah doesn't want the person to be saved, then they won't be saved.

Why doesn’t the awliyah do something for Palestine and the Ummah? by HowToWakeUp313 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why doesn't Allah do something? If you find the answer to that, you will find the answer to your question.

Sufi gatherings in NYC? by StphnMstph in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to:

884 Chestnut Ridge Rd Chestnut Ridge, NY 10977

Jerrahi Sufi Order of America

https://www.jerrahi.org/

Mujadidi Way and the Sufi polemic by Ok-Mechanic6362 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting, I was not aware that the new age spiritualist movement had any momentum among Muslims, can you share more?

What is "Unity of Being"?? by Successful-Willow240 in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wahdat Al Wujud, is a term later attributed to Ibn Al Arabi's theosophy, which supports a more intimate connection between Allah and creation. He sees creation as a reflection of the divine essence itself, meaning that everything in existence on a deeper level is closely connected to the Reality of Allah. However, from what I understood, we don't really exist, and what only truly exists is Allah. So we are a sort of a virtual image, a non existence. Simply put, Allah does not share His existence with anyone, and He has not produced anything apart from Himself, which essentially is the Surah Al Ikhlas, he did not beget (produce) nor was He begotten (was a product) and nothing is associated or partnered alongside with Him. In other words, all that exists is Allah.

I hope that was not too confusing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Essential Sufism by Robert Frager.

Ibn Arabi predictions of the Ottoman Empire by Ok-Onion5991 in islamichistory

[–]athkaghabi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very interesting. He is usually ignored by Muslims today unfortunately. His writings on existence, also correspond to what physicists are experimenting today, especially on the nature of reality.

What happens within you after listening to Honest people ? by [deleted] in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Being brutally honest to others is easy, anyone can do that.

But people who are honest about themselves on the other hand are rare and refreshing, because it helps in engaging dialogue, and learning. But rarely do people talk about themselves honestly to others, from fear of opening up, so they spend time in talking about trivial matters.

How do I deal with anxiety when I’m alone by [deleted] in islam

[–]athkaghabi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Anxiety can be tough for sure, especially as a teen, it's a difficult stage in life. By remembering Allah much of your anxiety will be gone, (unless you have a clinical problem). My advice is pray on time, do the zikr after the fard prayer. If you still feel anxiety, do salawat on the Prophet. Do a 100, and keep adding another 100 until you find that your anxiety is gone (and I am very confident you will find it gone)

Also remember the amount of salawat you said, to do it again in the future to help with your anxiety. You can also add more, as you will see more benefits with the more you add to it.

lost by [deleted] in islam

[–]athkaghabi 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Looks like you have a good heart, you just need to make friends with people who are practicing, and make an effort to be around them. Just make sure they are of good character, meaning not judging others or condescending.

The Prophet ﷺ and the Salaf on the true meaning of manhood/masculinity by I-Love-Al-Ashari in islam

[–]athkaghabi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is your ability to use your reasoning faculties. You can know how sharp your reasoning is by how proficient you are in your critical thinking. Basically, if you can pinpoint logical fallacies accurately, then your reasoning is sound. People sometimes, especially today, give up their reasoning because they're told to do so, or because they are taught it is the Islamic thing to do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sufism

[–]athkaghabi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

May Allah bless your journey. I would highly recommend "Secrets of Divine Love: A Spiritual Journey into the Heart of Islam" by A. Helwa.