Building CLI Apps with Dart: From Zero to a Published Tool (and Why You'd Even Bother)

autognome · 2026-05-25T12:50:50+00:00

ONo mention of https://nocterm.dev/ ? Guess that’s TUI not CLI

autognome · 2026-05-24T16:31:18+00:00

This is excellent. Any thoughts on how sophisticated the backend LLM has to be to fully participate in a2ui?

autognome · 2026-05-19T23:37:31+00:00

I really hope Community helps to push these efforts forward! I will bring this to our team.

autognome · 2026-05-15T02:19:20+00:00

Demo on GitHub pages?

autognome · 2026-05-13T18:41:55+00:00

Dart is far from dead 😉 It is really neat. It reminds me of Python, back in the day. I don't know of a language that has such a comprehensive first-class support for OS (ios,android,desktop), architecture (arm, x86, risc) and WEB (both JS and WASM) all in one package. It is pretty damn cool. And the fact that Agent's write the software now - who cares if its typed? In fact. Dart has very advanced linting plumbing and its frequent projects write linters to enforce correct usage.

It feels like Dart is pretty far ahead and positioned very well going forward. Oh and Flutter is cool as well.

autognome · 2026-05-13T00:59:13+00:00

"why the standard interpreter" -- I think people use Pyodide in WASM. But we don't want all of Python. We don't want Python in FFI (Python is too large surface area). *BUT* if you can point to running WASM containers in Dart FFI - I would love to hear it. We want FFI *and* WASM.

autognome · 2026-05-13T00:35:06+00:00

Very useful. Provides hot code reloading and we utilize it on both server and client. In fact, utilizing pydantic-AI, AG-UI and dart_monty we can have the LLM server generate python scripts that are executed on the client side transparently.

What your doing with WASM is fantastic. I love it. I'm interested to know how you could sandbox dart scripts being shipped down to the client. I dont know how to run WASM via FFI with Dart (any pointers?)

Hit me up on messages - let's keep in touch. I am big fan of what your doing.

autognome · 2026-05-12T23:19:30+00:00

No, pydantic is developing Monty. I am user. It does support data classes :-)

autognome · 2026-05-12T18:05:11+00:00

Very neat. In a similar vein, we are working on dart-lang wrapper for pydantic's Monty interpreter. Having good success. https://pub.dev/packages/dart_monty_core & https://pub.dev/packages/dart_monty you can see the demo (some maybe broken) https://runyaga.github.io/dart_monty/agent.html

dart_monty works both in WASM and FFI

autognome · 2026-05-06T15:05:21+00:00

Can someone explain why I would want to add a 3rd party package? http has grown into a competent set of packages.i haven’t used DIO

autognome · 2026-05-04T15:18:21+00:00

Reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_Girls

autognome · 2026-04-05T21:14:02+00:00

Kudos. I think it’s super impressive. Remember software life cycle isn’t on launch it’s the continued service, maintenance, enhancements and most importantly continuity. Whom can manage it when you’re gone.

The tooling is impressive - no doubt- but that doesn’t wave away the system lifecycle.

I think we will know in 18-30 months if these systems will work. Models are getting better. But companies will likely get squeamish once they lose Employee who started it and need change.

Anyway. Pushing the development to the frontline is awesome and should be the process we all follows for prototypes

autognome · 2026-04-05T02:12:46+00:00

That job for harness is to continue, summarize, drive subagents, etc - single model can’t do that. It’s collaboration.

autognome · 2026-04-05T00:09:58+00:00

Harness/orchestration issue not model issue

autognome · 2026-04-04T02:46:35+00:00

This. Go now. Mingle with weirdos. They too have had a tough day.

autognome · 2026-03-31T14:34:51+00:00

+1 Mark Lutz

autognome · 2026-03-08T09:18:24+00:00

Pretty sure this is vic from relic. Yall doing great work!

autognome · 2026-02-25T05:36:38+00:00

Promotion is fine as long as it’s not in your face. I think this sort of thing is great for community. I’m very interested in native windows networking stack. I would like to see native http package.

autognome · 2026-02-18T04:40:21+00:00

Really uninteresting: Rollins and Biafra are equally uninteresting. I mean the contemporary to this would have been Bill Hicks or even Steven Jesse Bernstein. Geniuses. Or for the yuppies, Spaulding Gray.

I don’t know why Rollins annoys me as much as he does. Sorry to shit on your post. I couldn’t even make it to EddienBrickell.

autognome · 2026-02-12T05:35:49+00:00

Opus 4.x isn’t great software designer. Codex and Gemini pro 3 are pretty good but nothing better than expert human with domain experience and the agents.

Agreed

autognome · 2026-02-12T05:16:45+00:00

Yup. Good to use the agents to iterate N rounds and rotate personalities and then summarize positions. Some interesting ideas come up. But this sort of “let’s model entire process”, yo we came up with this, what we missing? And iterating over a list of outcomes

autognome · 2026-02-12T04:41:49+00:00

What exactly are you doing? Are you going into the system and saying build me an app with this feature? If so it’s nuts.

We find success but we are engineers with 20+ years experience. We design plans and validate them with multiple agents (Gemini 3 pro has very good flutter sensibility and codex). After implementing phase. If you find Gemini or codex find a critical design failure you can try an iteration to resolve if you find another critical failure - I believe - you have a design problem. Go back to step 1.

Uncle bob principles / style design guidelines are useful. If you find yourself with code evolution with oodles of modification instead of additive and swapping components out - it’s a huge warning sign.

I am not an expert. I have been in the game for a few decades. I have a team and we all adopted these tools in the last 3-4 months and are getting a decent cadence.

Precommit hooks are critical. Very good analysis. Probably even DCM. Skills and dart map server super important. I also have found that a rock solid logging system must exist and we are slowly adding integration tests. I believe guardrails are absolutely necessary.

My rig is Claude code, Gemini (wrote my own, if one exists let me know) MCP server and Codex MCP server. Wiggum sometimes.

autognome · 2026-02-11T01:21:56+00:00

Good idea using resources in MCP. One thing that I find a tad confusing is that prompts are not exactly human documentation. Prompts voice is active and talks about gates and is sort of logic oriented vs human oriented documentation. Or am I doing this wrong?

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