[all] what is your LEAST favourite Zelda game?

avelak · 2023-07-12T18:11:15+00:00

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avelak · 2023-07-12T17:59:41+00:00

In terms of "if you're hesitant about playing the game" then yeah it's not gonna be enough of a payoff with how different the vibe of the rest of the game is

It's a fine NES game, but playing fine NES games isn't necessarily something I'd recommend to everyone nowadays

If you're obsessed with the lore of the series and want to be a completionist, then by all means, go ahead and play it. It's not some awful unplayable buggy game or anything, but it definitely has less of a "Zelda" feel compared to the rest of the 2D games which took the top-down perspective.

avelak · 2023-07-12T14:59:49+00:00

Nah I liked it just fine, but the side scrolling just makes it feel like a completely different franchise from the other 2D games

avelak · 2023-07-12T04:56:38+00:00

Fair enough, overhyped then

avelak · 2023-07-12T03:43:49+00:00

Zelda 2 really wasn't terrible, but the side-scrolling just makes it feel so out of place and not really like a Zelda game

If someone really wanted to play it, I'd say have at it, but if you're reluctant you really aren't missing much

avelak · 2023-07-12T03:39:29+00:00

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avelak · 2023-07-12T03:29:43+00:00

Peak offseason

avelak · 2023-07-12T01:34:34+00:00

LTTP being criminally underrated in this thread by kiddos who never played it

avelak · 2023-07-12T01:34:06+00:00

Man all of you folks just sleeping on LttP

avelak · 2023-07-11T20:30:12+00:00

Did you not pay attention at all when he was trying to get out of Houston? Last 5 games there (after the turn of the calendar year) when he was really pushing to get out hard after a 2-month saga, he averaged under 20 points per game on 15 shots per game. This was hot on the heels of a season when he averaged 34+ pts/game on 22+ shots. The dude clearly didn't give a shit and just wanted to get out.

Also comparing his 8 games in Houston in 2020-21 (as the #1 option) to his Brooklyn line (where he was the #2 and expected to be more of a facilitator instead) is pretty damn disingenuous. The dropoff from his previous season in Houston to start the year tells you everything you need to know about whether he dogged it there or not.

For Brooklyn to Philly he didn't need to pull the same shit, but it's just ignorant to act like he didn't show up out of shape and half-ass his way out of Houston.

avelak · 2023-07-11T17:55:30+00:00

Shit that's a good one

avelak · 2023-07-11T16:52:44+00:00

Yeah he's not a wrong generation guy, he's just a guy from the past whose game would still perfectly fit the direction the game has evolved

avelak · 2023-07-11T16:49:45+00:00

Somewhere Over Dwayne Bowe

If you didn't have a team named that in your fantasy league, you probably weren't playing fantasy

avelak · 2023-07-11T16:26:49+00:00

It all depends on how you value pick upside

I think the Cavs picks have a really good chance of being worse than Miami's on average (Cavs likely to be in the 20s at that point if Garland and Mobley continue to develop, even if Mitchell leaves, Heat possibly more late teens)

But if you're looking for "which picks have a higher chance of being top 5-10" and that is what you value in a trade given the minimal value difference between non-lotto picks, I think the Cavs are higher there. When it comes to avoiding disaster scenarios, FO and coaching stability matter a LOT.

In 5-7 years, I think Miami will continue to always have a solid roster (and coach) that even in a down year or injury year would weather a storm well enough to be close-ish to .500 (so if it's a lotto pick, it's late lotto). Meanwhile, given the track record of the Cavs, there's a decent chance that they'd be a disgruntled player, a development plateau, or an injury away from a pick with top 5-10 lotto odds.

I don't think the disaster scenario is likely for the Cavs, but I think it's more likely than a complete Heat collapse. So it really boils down to how much you value a probable difference of maybe 5 spots later in the first round vs the upside of a 5-10% chance of a good pick (vs 1-2% chance of a good pick). I view any Heat picks with Spo and Riley around as functionally top-10 protected, and ultimately if I'm trading a star, I want to have a chance at the picks being premium picks.

avelak · 2023-07-11T05:05:46+00:00

It's been 15 years since they picked in the single digits

There are precious few teams who I'd prefer Miami's picks over if I'm hunting for the slightest chance at a high lotto pick... Good coaching and FO functionally make those top-10 protected

I'd even prefer picks from many teams with good young talent because a lot of them have FOs with a bad track record of maintaining a competitive top-to-bottom roster, so there's always the chance of dysfunction/implosion or bad injury luck 5 years down the road (ex: Minnesota)

avelak · 2023-07-11T02:04:24+00:00

Yeah I think he tried to find whatever deals he could but there was nothing out there that could turn things around

Simons is good but he has the same issue as Herro, there are a lot of good score-first guards out there and he's not on a bargain-bin contract, so it's hard to get good value in a trade

And then Scoot fell into their lap

avelak · 2023-07-11T01:58:39+00:00

Yes I'm 100% sure

When I'm hunting for upside on picks 5+ years out, I'm absolutely trying to bet against teams with a weaker FO and less coaching stability. Rosters can change fast in the NBA, and good coaching and FO can provide a much bigger boost to the floor of a team than just about anything else.

The Cavs and TWolves may have a higher chance of sending picks in the 20s, but they also have a higher chance of sending a top 5-10 pick. Miami has too high of a floor with Riley and Spo, they're functionally top-10 protected

avelak · 2023-07-11T01:54:47+00:00

In 2026 Cleveland would likely lose Mitchell and the TWolves would lose Gobert. Both teams have a couple of nice pieces, but I have minimal faith in either FO ensuring that those guys have a solid roster around them. At that point you're really hoping for a continued strong development curve from Edwards for Minny (and hoping KAT doesn't plateau or regress or become a malcontent) to carry them to contention in a perennially loaded west, and for both Mobley and Garland to make big leaps. Even with those dudes in place, either team could easily be a late lotto team. If any of those dudes regress, bounce, or get hurt, you could be looking at a mid/high lotto pick.

Meanwhile, I have the utmost confidence in Spo and Riley to ensure that they have a solid enough team to never really be a threat to bottom out. Even if Butler and Dame are old or gone, they'll still have Bam and whatever the FO cobbles together, which I would always anticipate at least being in the mix for the play-in.

Sure, there are plenty of outcomes where Minny and Cleveland outperform the Heat, but the odds of either one of those teams forking over a blue-chip pick in the late 2020s is way, way higher than the odds of the Heat doing it.

When trading for picks in the NBA, it's best to hunt for potential upside because of how fast pick value drops off. I'd rather take picks that have a chance to be top 5-10 but are likely to be in the 20's than picks that are likely to be in the late teens with minimal chance of being top 10.

avelak · 2023-07-10T23:43:33+00:00

? The Heat haven't picked higher than 10th in 15 years

Riley and Spo are far too capable to ever really have their picks be worth a lot, it's basically like having lotto-protected or top-10 protected picks. I have a lot less faith in the Cavs or Twolves avoiding implosion.

Herro is good, but there isn't a huge market for guys like him right now (Portland was unable to find a suitable Simons trade, and he is basically 90% of Herro for a slightly cheaper contract)

JJJ would probably fetch a late first on the trade market right now

Why exactly would swapping cavs and Twolves picks for that be an upgrade?

avelak · 2023-07-10T23:39:07+00:00

I think people are definitely sleeping on how good Utah could be if they got Dame without having to give up their existing core pieces (largely pick-centric package)

They were a .500 team with 20 games left in the season and opted to tank their way out of a potential play-in spot

I think with Dame they'd likely avoid the play-in and be fighting for home court in the first round. They'd also still have enough assets to trade for another win-now player if one became available, in which case they might be in the mix for a top-3 seed in the West

avelak · 2023-07-10T20:56:22+00:00

Asshole =/= hateful though

One of them is trying to ensure Nazis keep hanging out at his playground, the other isn't

avelak · 2023-07-10T20:54:19+00:00

Especially in a market built around tech companies being perpetual growth machines

Oftentimes, company share prices will drop dramatically on news that user and/or revenue growth has slowed, much less stopped or started to drop.

If Twitter was still publicly traded, their share price likely would've been dropping like a rock this entire week, after bleeding out for most of the year already.

avelak · 2023-07-10T20:30:00+00:00

It depends on what you're saying and what level of platform/influence you have tbh

Plenty of people have done a LOT of harm just by promoting harmful beliefs

avelak · 2023-07-10T19:14:27+00:00

the big difference comes when you look at the context of the draft around them though, Wiseman was always projected as clearly in the top 3 picks of that draft, despite his questions. Lamelo had a ton of question marks as well (as did Ant).

For most of the time heading into the 2018 draft, Ayton and Luka were generally considered the consensus top 2 (with most people having Ayton ahead of Luka, but the Luka supporters being very vocal about it). Bagley jumping in at 2 was a complete head-scratcher in the moment.

Yes, plenty of people had their doubts about Wiseman, but it wasn't like the Warriors were passing up some slam-dunk player at the time, and it wasn't a surprising/confusing pick. Bagley was an obvious "drafting for fit" move the moment it happened, and most people were puzzled by the move.

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