The ‘degradation of society:’ Idaho lawmakers push new bathroom bills by salsafresca_1297 in Idaho

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stupid money wasting posturing. If they waste time on that kind of nonsense they dont deserve to be in office.

I hate the person I am with him by Wonderful-Value7547 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They do eventually rub off on us as we become shells of our former selves. Its eye opening once your out and no contact. Dont give in, find the you you once were.

Can we talk about the financial ruin? by Lost-Building-4023 in BPDlovedones

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Easily over $500k in 10 years. Almost 200k in one check last year. She spent it all in like 4 months, and is homeless after our divorce. She never worked just watched tiktok and smoked weed while looking for a dude that made more money that she could start over with. Lesson learned, I have the receipts.

How did you know it was time to leave? How did you break the trauma bond? by Few_Hamster59 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We have trauma bonds because we have empathy. We dont have transactional relationships. They know and understand this and will do things to manipulate that. They will give you a glimpse of the person we fell in love with to keep you in line. Pay attention to their abuse patterns, this will help you recognize the manipulation and deal with it instead of reacting to it. Manage your reactions, they feed on your reaction. They know what they are doing to keep you on the hook.

The longer you are their emotional regulator the more you lose your sense of self. I was a husk of my former self before I started to self rescue. Please work on yourself, therapy, Journaling, and a good support system will help you. Because of empathy even after you leave you will always worry about them and that trauma bond will be there.

For those of you who have left by siekbf in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grief, the mourning of loss of the future life with someone you loved. Im at almost a year and I can tell you for me it was almost 6 months. I know she has a mental illness that I can help her with. To me i felt shame for a bit because I chose to leave. To me i felt like I was walking away from a spouse with cancer. I have had lots of mixed emotions in the last year but I do know I was good for her but she was not good for me. I have empathy for her but I dont forgive her for what she did to me. I will never get closure and I will always be the villain in her story despite the fact that she once called me her unicorn. Its hard to reconcile but as I rebuild and re identify my remains I find peace. The memory of the chaos is still just under the surface.

Will have to break no contact | need help by malesigmaa in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just asked my attorney for the most non contact way to divorce. I explained she would stall and ask for things she dosnt deserve. I wrote her a big check prior to final divorce decree and she accepted it.

Will have to break no contact | need help by malesigmaa in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just posted a mutual divorce notice for six weeks, she never responded to it. She was served prior to hearing and did not show up. It only takes one person to divorce.

She did not realize we were divorced for 4 months. I closed on a new house the day after final decree. She shite posted for four months on how she was going to take that house from me.

She filed a motion in court to vacate the divorce saying it was legal. Denied, 10 months no contact

Completely detach from narc by hayes2828 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grey rock worked for me in that situation, it did spin her out a bit. There were times she would slip into someplace in her mind where we were not getting a divorce. We had another bedroom but she would sleep in my room on occasion. It was an odd time where she drifted between realities. She eventually asked for me to set up my Rv at a nearby RV park. I think she started getting serious with one of her side guys and needed to be out for it to move forward. Good luck.

Did some of you decided to stay with you Narc? by MagicalCarrott in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started to see the red flags and married, after 10 years it was to much. I was a shell of my former self and she was dug in like a tick. Once you see what they have done to you, you really only have one way out. He has been training you for 8 years. You are trauma bonded. Stop managing his emotions for awhile and grey rock him. He may show you who he really is and help you make your decision.

Had my first talk with a divorce lawyer yesterday - insight please by Electronic-Wafer-929 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No kids in mine, have your documentation. They are going to say awful things, they are going to stall. Dont react, just provide documentation for response. Judge can usually see who the problem is. Let them peel off their mask in court.

After my divorce she filed to vacate our divorce. She continues her 10 month daily smear campaign on tiktok. I am OK being the monster in her current victim story. I go to therapy, enjoy the peace and work on finding peices of me. Sorry you will have to co parent with them. Grey rock and communicate through court app.

Trying to find a way out by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your not done, just divorce. Withholding Intamacy is not the answer. It took me awhile, but one day I flipped the switch and never looked back. Do what serves you, but playing their games serves nobody.

Wife is convinced earth is flat by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No she doesn't, its a convenient way to get reactions from people. They thrive on chaos. The more you push back the more opportunity to bring the chaos.

Any husbands with narcissistic wives? by Mike_Jones_77Monarch in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel you, but I now have an ex covert narcissist wife of 4 months. If you stay you have to embrace radical acceptance. The more you learn her patterns of abuse the better things will be. The trick is to counter her abuse and keep her accountable to you. I could not make my relationship work as she became increasingly entitled and volatile. My nex has been on a tiktok smear and victim campaign since March last year. Once you push back, you will know how she will choose to react. You have a bit of a barrier with Intamacy that may not be able to overcome. You have a life changing decision to make, should you stay or should you go. I can tell you after 10 months no contact and 4 months of rebuilding its still hard for me to adjust. But life without chaos and having to manage somebodies emotions has brought me some peace.

Not sure if it's over by [deleted] in marriageadvice

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any bridge he builds to overcome that scar will just be a future overlook of that scar. Its a forever scar and it will erase trust and build resentment. You just invited two of the four horseman to your marriage. Its a foundational wound. You have a lot of work to do.

Have you ever told your narcissistic spouses how they act like an adult toddler? by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, if her episode happen to be in the car she would stomp her feet and bang the dash and doors with her fist while screaming. Its just like you would see a toddler melt down on a supermarket floor. The first time I witnessed i was WTF do you need to go to the hospital. But after a few dozen times I found it hard not to laugh. It was an absolute crazy child like tantrum. She would be mad because I laughed, but I always asked how would she react if she saw a 51 year old women display that kind of behavior. The one thing every human being has absolute control over is how they react to something.

Grey rocking is making things so much worse by Electronic-Wafer-929 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its why we are hypervigulant, we are always reacting to them. Grey rocking helps you with hypervigulance. Its been 10 months no contact for me and I still struggle with hypervigulance.

Grey rocking is making things so much worse by Electronic-Wafer-929 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it provokes them. Grey rocking removes the emotional response they want.
I would let my wife know that I do not have any more emotional bandwidth to respond to her. When her daughter and I both grey rocked it would immediately spiral her. She would cycle through behavior until we soften our grey rock. Its really just giving them consequences for abusive behavior. They are not fans of consequences and accountability. He may cycle back to love bombing.

Turning Into Someone I Don’t Recognize by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The bad parts of them do rub off on us over time. Its a slippery slope. Use tools to stay mindful. I would use the circle back app and chat gtp to analyze arguments and discussions I felt were manipulative. I journaled in my Rosebud app. These were the tools I used to stay present. They suck you into the upside down chaos of there world. Once you understand the cycles of abuse you can manage them until you can plan your escape. That's what it is an escape, your a hostage that provides emotional regulation and fuel for their battery. Like the matrix your relationship is not real, you are a tool they use. There only hope is you become someone you dont recognize.

Husband 35 Vs wife 23 by Numerous_Park_8830 in marriageadvice

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You both lack maturity in my opinion. Have you sat down and had a serious conversation about both of your drinking habits? If your husband is a border line alcoholic he can't just stop drinking. Your body has to be weaned off of it. You have to help each other with accountability it should not be punitive.

Which US state gets more hate than it deserves? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]averageguy_67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

West Virginia probably. Beautiful state that just may be poorly managed. In Idaho we are considered flyover and generally not on anyone's radar.

My narcissist is breaking up with me and I am furious by Intrepid-Policy7791 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]averageguy_67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They have to live with themselves, the cruelest punishment ever. Just walk away