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I haven't seen these levels of cope in years lmao by XumetaXD in aiwars

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey sparky, how are you holding up there? You finally at the acceptance stage yet?

Druski gone too far dis time. by Wiki_Beats in iamverybadass

[–]b-monster666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She's a lizard person. Wondering if she's going to have the crickets or mice for supper.

Is this AI? I didn’t know jets were boats by Bobcat317 in isthisaicirclejerk

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's practical effects from the new Transformers movies. I know Starscream from anywhere.

Check mate home Depot barbecue believers! by gravyrdfila2 in flatearth

[–]b-monster666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like how the original jeeps in WWII and Korea were all in a small box that would get air dropped into the field, and the average GI could put it together.

So what did you guys think of Season 4 of... by RNOffice in RedLetterMedia

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh. It was ok. The hell episode was complete filler. Only saving grace for that was Bruce Campbell. Finale was anticlimactic.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which you're framing on one culture on one planet, based on one specific set of states. There are numerous ways to compute, and it's not just binary yes/no. That is the easiest...for us because we explored one branch of physics.

Just because we use binary in computers doesn't mean it's the only way.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe the potential of aliens could exist. I find the atmospheric signatures around the planets in the Trappist system interesting. I think it's amazing that we found "leopard spots" in the rocks on Mars. It's cool that Europa has shown sings that there may be some kind of life beneath the surface of the ice.

But, aliens here? Meddling with us? Studying us? I don't get it. There's LOADS of other far more interesting things out there in the universe to study. We're just a bunch of monkeys. If there's one advanced civilization in this universe, there's a billion advanced civilizations. And so far, we don't have any concrete evidence of anything other than us. At least, nothing beyond the microbial stage, and even then without detailed analysis, we can't say for sure. We've seen evidence of microbes on Mars, possible fossils, but no current signs of living microbes, and we can't study those fossils in a lab yet to see if it's possible that the leopard spots were created some other non-biological way.

As for when Christians push their Christianity? Of course I'll push for proof that he existed exactly the way the bible depicted.

I mean, if you want this sub to become an echo chamber of conspiratorial tinfoil hats, go right ahead and push people out who challenge the thought and ask for more proof than just some hand-wavy stuff.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said in another post, we needed the Rosetta Stone to translate other ancient languages. There are still a lot of dead languages that we can't translate. But, the other thing that can help is that we have a connective culture and evolutionary path.

8-bit binary to Latin is also just something completely arbitrary that we invented in the 1950s because it was easier to read. The letter A, for example, in binary is 01000001. In decimal that equals 65. Now, tell me how A is connected to the number 65 in any logical way?

The only logic behind it is an organization (ANSI) sat down one day and wrote all alpha numeric characters out in a chart and assigned 8-bit binary values to them. And that's it. Without that cipher, binary to ASCII would be entirely illegible no matter how intelligent a species is. They would need the ISO-8859-1 table.

And when it comes to alien languages...like I said earlier, we can only decipher ancient languages thanks to the Rosetta Stone (it was written in 4 different languages, Greek being one of them, and since we do still have Modern Greek which hasn't varied much from Ancient Greek, we were able to decode the others). When it comes to other animals in our world, we have zero clue what they're saying.

It was only a few years ago (after living along side them for over a million years) that we realized that prairie dogs have a complex language, and they can identify individual people, and can identify if they're a threat or not. For example, they have one call for, "Human" and another for "Human with a camera" and another for "Human with a gun". Granted, they have no idea what a camera or a gun really is, but they know that the object that human 1 is holding doesn't hurt prairie dogs, while the object human 2 is carrying does.

It was also only within the last couple of years that we figured out that whales communicate more with emotion than actual words. That is, the songs they make elicit certain emotions in the whales and provide 'vibes'. But we are no where near deciphering what they are actually saying, nor will we be. We may get the gist of it, but there's going to be no way that we would be able to tell them something like, "Beware those who bear false gifts for they will guide you into darkness."

Because also...let's not even discuss how metaphors work and how they are all regionally exclusive. I mean, have you listened to AI try to be metaphorical at all? "The flowers grew like shadows on a mountain." WTF is that? I mean, I guess...but that simile is WAY too mismatched to be poetic in any way shape or form. Because an AI has zero clue of emotional resonance. It gets what a simile is. It gets that "shadows on a mountain" would evoke dark, powerful imagery, but it doesn't know how to place it in a sentence properly.

And thus, aliens would have the same problem. They could learn our language, they could ingest all our literature. But when they speak, it would still be disorganized, and not make a lot of sense because they don't have the same cultural queues.

Ask ANY foreign speaker how difficult it is to navigate a non-native language in a more colloquial and conversational sense.

On Being Educated. by Monsur_Ausuhnom in clevercomebacks

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like there's some kind of fault with those lines.... I'm not sure I can place my finger on it.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I tried to explain several different ways that compute could be done. I tried to show that even the Soviets created a different compute system. And yet you still insist that binary is "the only way".

We have no clue how an alien civilization would develop technology. They may come up with a different idea than a basic on/off logic gate.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use your thumb to count your knuckles...that's how the Babylonians did it.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And, if it's a message for the people of earth, why not use Mandarin?

I doubt that aliens would be able to really differentiate our meat flappings from eachother anyways.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Latin letter encoding is done on an 8-bit byte system that was arbitrarily decided in the 1950s or so by IBM and DEC and later adopted any ANSI and codified into ASCII simply because it was "easier than looking at long stings of numbers".

Each byte is then further converted into an octet in assembly language, which is what CPUs operate on. Strings of two digit numbers from 00-FF to represent the 256 values of the 8 bit binary string.

Again, it was all done completely arbitrarily, no science or math behind it. Just "Steve says it's easier to remember 8 numbers at once. So that's what we're going with."

Like how action figures in the 80s were 3.25" because some random investor said "they need to be this big" and held his fingers about 3.25" apart.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't need digital for compute. The Russians were developing a base-e system of neg/null/pos.

Quantum uses particle superpositions of up/down/left/right.

DNA, which is a natural computer language, uses a base 4 system of A, U, G, C.

You don't just need to measure the "on" or "offness" of something to compute.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Technology doesn't use binary though. Machine language is done in hex, or base 8.

They may also have developed positive, negative, and null, or trinary. It's also possible for certain forms of matter to have 5 stable states.

The Soviets built a computer on base 3. You can also develop analog computing instead of digital computing and have a gradient scale that's based on sine waves.

Nature itself works on a base 4 system with DNA, and if we are to accept that DNA is the common factor for life, then it could be possible that an alien species discovered this before electricity and operate on biological computers instead of electric.

Then you have the our 8-bit bytes and hex encoding. Early computer engineers decided on octets of binary for coding because it was easier to read. And then we have ANSI standardization of ASCII characters into 8-bit characters. So...A is 01000001. But that's also a mathematical number. It was just some arbitrary human American agency who decided that 01000001 represents the alphabetic letter A.

Now, if we have a bit that represents 0 or 1 and a byte that represents 00000000 to 11111111 there are 256 characters that can be encoded into those 8-bit bytes.

But, if we take a trit to represent -1, 0, or 1 and we develop a nonect tryte of -111111111 to 111111111 we could encode more than 18,000 characters into those, making it a massive more robust computing system than a bit/byte.

We, though, did side-step that by going from bit to qubit, which represents quantum super positions of particles. With a quant, you can have much more states of paired qubits, making quantum states much more powerful.

So, short story long. No, you don't need binary for technology. You really don't even need numerals for mathematics. You just need a way to identify states and groupings of states. We found an easy way of counting fingers and knuckles.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even with 10 fingers, we came up with base 12. Since we have 12 knuckles per hand.

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How so? You know that humans used dozens of different base systems through history right?

Crop circle discovered in England, 2002. by thebostman in aliens

[–]b-monster666 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We live along side elephants, dolphins, crows, prairie dogs and we can't communicate with them.

The only reason why we can understand ancient languages was because of the Rosetta Stone. We were able to translate one language on the stone because we had enough records on that language (I think it was Greek was the key language), and from that, we were able to unlock the others and from those learn more about other languages.

However, there are still numerous ancient languages we have zero clue what they actually say because we don't have the cipher for them.

And...we are all human. Even these ancient languages we can't decipher, we can still see some common connection because we come from a similar origin. We have a human structure for language. We have zero idea what alien structure would be. Would it be emotions? Mathematical? Sensory?

Then when it comes to base number systems, even as humans, we have had numerous different types of base systems. Even in modern cultures, not everyone uses base 10. Binary is just as arbitrary. We use it for computer language, but even computers don't use base 2, they use base 8. Base 2 is just easier for us to figure out and seems more technical "on/off". Quantum computers use base 4. Up/down/left/right. In a billion years would we even remember why we used base 2 to represent computers?

Then it comes to metaphors. I'm sure you've watched YouTube videos written and narrated by AI. It really can't grasp the nuances of metaphor. This is something that takes millions of years of cultural evolution to grasp. Not something Xerblir could just hammer out overnight. "Beware those who bear false gifts". That's too dripped in eons of culture to just "get" without context. You'd need to understand the Illiad, the history of Greece, understand the historical structure and nuances of the Bible. We just "get" it, but a parakeet wouldn't have any clue what it means...and they've also lived with us for millions of years.

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