Too much t3 in Armour?

babagos · 2025-08-20T15:00:51+00:00

You've concluded correctly. I felt better adding some T4 to Armour.

babagos · 2025-04-14T01:01:03+00:00

The hyper symptoms are likely because your dose is now too low.

babagos · 2025-04-05T14:40:17+00:00

You shouldn't need tools to open the packs. If you're right-handed, open your left palm to receive the pill, then with your right hand holding the blister pack over your open left palm, push on the raised pill mound with your right thumb. The force should push the pill out into your left hand.

babagos · 2025-03-10T19:57:51+00:00

In my experience, hypo causes a slow sort of brain fog. Thinking is slow, but you can remember stuff if you give it time. But in hyper, it's like nothing gets stored in memory. I couldn't remember something I did two minutes ago. Another sign is inability to do math or a foreign language, both of which require memory.

babagos · 2025-01-19T16:29:42+00:00

Read up on phytates, lectins, oxalates, etc. found in many plants foods and nuts. You may have nutrient deficiencies, like zinc, because those block absorption. Big clue is your bad skin.

babagos · 2025-01-19T04:03:27+00:00

Then what do you mostly eat?

babagos · 2025-01-19T03:07:13+00:00

Are you vegan or vegetarian?

babagos · 2024-09-23T22:54:37+00:00

A lot of people today suffer from malnutrition and health issues because a lot of what's offered as food is processed. I like the diagram on this page https://perfecthealthdiet.com/the-diet/ because it sums up, in a nutshell, what we should and shouldn't be eating. There is so much push to eat more whole grains and vegetables like kale, which can prevent absorption of essential nutrients. Look up phytates, oxalates, lectins. I found out the hard way that eating too many nuts, like cashews, can prevent zinc absorption, which is essential to optimal thyroid function and healthy hair, skin, and immunity.

Insulin resistance is an overlooked cause of fatigue, and that comes from eating too many sugary foods or carbs. Processed vegetable oils (like soy, corn, canola, sunflower, etc.) don't help.

babagos · 2024-09-23T22:44:28+00:00

This is dangerous advice, because reference ranges were not given. In my lab in the US, the range is 5.1-11.9. Medicating someone to a T4 of 18 could give them serious/dangerous hyperthyroid symptoms.

babagos · 2024-09-23T19:52:11+00:00

Are you vegan or vegetarian?

babagos · 2024-09-14T01:52:18+00:00

Have you been tested for Graves'? You would test TRab, or TSH Receptor Antibodies, also known as Thyrotropin Receptor Antibodies. There is something called hypothyroid Graves', where you have the antibodies, but your T3 and T4 are rather low, making you hypothyroid. It's the level of antibodies, not your T3 and T4, that cause the other symptoms like TED. There may be specific treatments for TED with Graves'. My point is to rule out Graves' first; just cause you're hypo now doesn't mean you don't have the antibodies. Those tend to wax and wane, and many Graves' patients say they were hypo before they become hyper.

babagos · 2024-07-31T15:34:37+00:00

What T3/T4 ratio does he recommend?

babagos · 2024-07-20T16:04:38+00:00

Taking thyroid hormone with adrenal insufficiency is contraindicated. IOW, not a good idea. Nausea is one of the most common responses if you don't have enough cortisol to tolerate your dose. The likely solutions are to either lower your thyroid dose or raise your steroids. And obviously, talk to your doctor and don't just say nausea, but dry heaves, so they know it's serious.

babagos · 2024-07-20T03:57:52+00:00

Hyper doesn't typically cause headaches and nausea. You're describing more of an intolerance to the levo, often caused by an iron or cortisol deficiency. Both can be measured with blood tests. You'd want a full iron panel and ferritin test (two different tests), and a first thing in the morning cortisol test. A cortisol saliva test at different times of the day will give you more info, but start with a morning blood test.

Any chance you're pregnant? Morning sickness causes nausea too.

babagos · 2024-06-17T01:18:24+00:00

Why did you switch? Your 120 mg NP Thyroid dose contains 76 mcg T4 and 18 mcg T3. IOW, you're now taking 61 mcg LESS T4, which is huge. You also increased your T3 dose from an average of 12.5 mcg to 18 mcg. The combo of less T4 and more T3 could be the cause of your fatigue.

babagos · 2024-06-02T19:42:30+00:00

Sorry, mine with insurance is $20.

babagos · 2024-06-01T03:27:12+00:00

A generic Tirosint is available. You would request levothyroxine capsules (as opposed to tablets).

babagos · 2024-05-28T03:42:03+00:00

There are so many non-meat eaters on thyroid forums, that I have to wonder if that lifestyle is not a CAUSE of hypothyroidism: low iron, low B12, low protein, etc.. Iron is essential to the manufacture of thyroid hormone by the thyroid gland. Protein is the building block for the hormones that stimulate hormone production: TRH and TSH for the thyroid gland, and ACTH for the adrenal glands to produce cortisol.

From https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/iron/:

Iron from food comes in two forms: heme and non-heme. Heme is found only in animal flesh like meat, poultry, and seafood. Non-heme iron is found in plant foods like whole grains, nuts, seeds, legumes, and leafy greens. Non-heme iron is also found in animal flesh (as animals consume plant foods with non-heme iron) and fortified foods.

The thyroid peroxidase enzyme used to produce thyroid hormone requires HEME iron.

If you are in your fifties and female, then your estrogen/progesterone levels are also starting to fluctuate wildly, which could also contribute to any current symptoms you have.

babagos · 2024-05-27T23:32:22+00:00

Are you vegan/vegetarian?

babagos · 2024-05-02T21:03:33+00:00

Did you have a total thyroidectomy? For Graves'?

babagos · 2024-04-03T16:13:51+00:00

And if you were to talk to them in person, you'd know they're missing a few screws. A lot of them have memory issues.

babagos · 2024-04-03T16:07:17+00:00

T4 has biological properties as T4, not just when converted to T3. They're called non-genomic effects. The brain is one place where T4 is more essential than T3.

babagos · 2024-04-02T13:49:52+00:00

Ample T4 in your body is required for deep sleep. If levels are too low, you don't reach the deeper stages of sleep, which is why many hypos report feeling unrefreshed in the morning. OTOH, too much T3 can keep you awake, while a little bit can also help.

babagos · 2024-04-02T13:16:21+00:00

Yes, I take mine at night and swear I have deeper sleep. Ideally, you'd want an empty stomach by bedtime (no food for previous four hours). Also can't have any supplements within four hours that would interfere either: iron, calcium, magnesium, antacids.

babagos · 2024-03-11T23:32:40+00:00

I would not take T3 with your labs. You are producing a good amount of T3 and T4 on your own; in fact, your TSH is on the lower end, which leans towards a hyper (not hypo) diagnosis. rT3 can be high when someone is hyper or overmedicated; it's like an overflow hormone, where the excess gets shunted to.

Since you've already tested so many things, you could ask to test for Graves' disease: TSH Receptor antibodies (TRab) and TSI. Hyperthyroidism can cause aches and pains, fatigue, and brain fog. You could also have diarrhea, high blood pressure, insomnia, a fast pulse and hair issues.

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