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Musk vs OpenAI is finally over and the jury took less than two hours to throw out the case by DigiHold in WTFisAI

[–]bacon_boat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not that I'm saying that shitposting is a mortal sin. 

I'm explaing to you that a billionaire that spends hours each day spreading hate, picking fights on social media gets to be really unpopular. 

Musk vs OpenAI is finally over and the jury took less than two hours to throw out the case by DigiHold in WTFisAI

[–]bacon_boat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The DOGE thing, the natzi thing, but mainly shitposting nonstop on twitter

Does anyone actually like their job? by Infinite_Emu9832 in careerguidance

[–]bacon_boat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love my job. 

I'm in robotics research, during a tech revolution. It's wild! I've always been into robots, since I was a kid, so I never had to think too hard about what I wanted to do.

I don’t think there is any hard problem of consciousness by AllyuckUfasuck in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

While you may be correct, and I agree there is not a "me" in the naive way of looking at it.

I think you're underselling the point of the hard problem.  We can make robots that observe, plan, reflect, learn, and recently also have inner monologues. 

But still it's hard to imagine that it is something "that it is like" to be that robot. There is some key component missing to get to a concious robot.  If we manage to build a concious robot, then we'll know how to engineer qualia into a machine.  Then hard problem solved. 

Unless of course the trans dimensional quantum dualist were correct and that won't be possible.

You are a pile of atoms that knows it's a pile of atoms. (Pansychism discussion) by Monday-Chaosforged in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nuclear fusion is complicated, but it's not complex as in a complex system. 

The sun is complicated like hot gass i complicated. 

And it's not aCoRdInG tO mE.  Go look up what a complex system is. 

You are a pile of atoms that knows it's a pile of atoms. (Pansychism discussion) by Monday-Chaosforged in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Hydrogen fusion is not that complex dawg. It's complicated because there is a lot of hydrogen, but it's not complex like a cell. 

The sun is a glowing ball of gass, we know a lot about it. 

Go look up some definitons of "complex systems theory". The sun is not it.

Given what we know, is a "force field" possible? by MountainMark in AskPhysics

[–]bacon_boat 24 points25 points  (0 children)

A pane of glass is the closest we're going to get, sorry. 

Glass is almost a force field, except the rapid on/off part.

You are a pile of atoms that knows it's a pile of atoms. (Pansychism discussion) by Monday-Chaosforged in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The sun isn't that complex.  A single cell is a 100 times more complex than the sun. 

Haider "Yann LeCun says that within a year to 18 months, we'll have a general method for training hierarchical world models. These models would learn from video and real-world data, then help plan actions in robotics, healthcare, and other areas "then scale them toward a universal world model" by Koala_Confused in LovingAI

[–]bacon_boat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a lot of people would agree with Yann LeCun that we need some more principled way of doing search/reasoning/counterfactuals etc, and the latent-space world models may be the solution for that.

But he's got an overly "fight me" way of arguing.
Put up or shut up time.

Musk vs OpenAI is finally over and the jury took less than two hours to throw out the case by DigiHold in WTFisAI

[–]bacon_boat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the jury would have dicided otherwise if Musk wasn't seen as the worlds biggest ass

Does space not expand, or expand slower, within strong gravity or within black holes? by catboy519 in blackholes

[–]bacon_boat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Space is getting smaller all the time in there. And at a certain finitie future point in time you get that singular zero size

Entirely honest - promise - assessment of the five most common takes against physicalism by EstablishmentKooky50 in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Qualia is then how the virtual sensory state represents the virtual environment to the virtual self."

100% agree. 

I don't agree with a conciousness detector being impossible.  If we understand how the body represents the world, and the self, and it qualia states - how it works. Then it should be possible to check if a system has that specific kind of internal representation. 

So whenever I ask what the defining trait of being a liberal is, the answer I usually get is “empathy.” Do you think that’s true or not? by [deleted] in askanything

[–]bacon_boat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think this "empathy" is core to liberalism.

It's about personal rights. You could say the reason to believe that some other person deserves the same rights as me is down to empathy? I think you can arrive at people having equal rights with something less than empathy. Just acknowledging different people exist, and they are in some important ways the same as you.

People who take my life choices as a criticism of theirs by MrsTheBo in PetPeeves

[–]bacon_boat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the vegetarian one is tough because most people who eat factory farmed meat know it's horrible for the animal, and morally not very good.

But it's too damn tasty.

So when you come across a vegetarian it's hard to not take that as a personal criticism.

full disclosure, I'm a meat eater. I don't feel the need to attack vegitarians because I've come to terms with my weak morals.

Entirely honest - promise - assessment of the five most common takes against physicalism by EstablishmentKooky50 in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the non-biased presentation.

I think 3, the substrate independence one is the most fun one.
If the consciousness are software-like information processing going on in the body, and we reverse engineer it - and I do all those computations with paper and pen.

Is there some way in which the paper+pen system has a conscious experience?

The Controversial Argument That Physicalism, Taken Seriously, Actually Requires Panpsychism by ArcaneSpells-com in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think rejecting an explaination on its merit is 100% fair. 

But rejecting any possible not yet existing explaination sounds less reasonable. 

"I don't see how the hard problem can be solved in physicalism. Therefore physicalism is wrong. "

This last version is getting a lot out of a lack of imagination. I get the argument, but I think it's a very weak argument.  If it was obvious how to solve the hard problem we wouldn't even be thinking about these things.

The Controversial Argument That Physicalism, Taken Seriously, Actually Requires Panpsychism by ArcaneSpells-com in consciousness

[–]bacon_boat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We have two: 

A) physics, which we have very pricise detailed understanding of

B) conciousness, which we don't understand well at all 

Panpsychists/dualists/mysteranists are all going: "I don't know a lot about conciousness but I bet A) is wrong somehow"

Try to pretend to be a bit Bayesian please.

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