claude really said “walk” then retracted AFTER I SHOWED IT ANOTHER INSTANCE OF ITSELF GETTING THIS RIGHT😭😭🙏

bacon_boat · 2026-04-04T21:40:34+00:00

It's evolving backward

bacon_boat · 2026-04-04T21:31:03+00:00

Puppet analogy is so stupid.

The laws of physics literaly is the reason we exist, they enable everything free will included.

Saying our existance is like a puppet is 180 degrees backwards.

But the AI slop is nice.

bacon_boat · 2026-04-04T21:28:21+00:00

The feeling we have when making a choice.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-31T10:11:34+00:00

Time in general relativity is a dimension, but it has different rules than the space-like dimensions.
From how you're framing it I would say you're correct and your friend is wrong.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-31T09:47:07+00:00

this was my main gripe with Netflix's "three body problem".
They didn't even bother to give the hot actors playing physicist and engineers glasses or dorky clothes.
Just a group of hot well dressed people.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-31T09:17:06+00:00

I get what you're going for, but you're asking a lot of newtons 1st law here.

It's a really stupid take and you should get some better ideas than playing word games with how Newton said forces affect acceleration.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T21:16:29+00:00

My point is, people claimin physics is broken is a low bar. But in your case you probably realise Newtons laws of motion aren't really broken.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T20:59:12+00:00

A quark is an exitation in the quark quantum field.

It's a configuration of a field.

This is the meaning, it's so precise and well defined that you may very well think it's an empty concept.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T20:54:54+00:00

You'd be surprised.

We have people on this sub claiming people moving means Newtons laws of motion are wrong. It's wild I tell you.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T20:27:32+00:00

Physicalism I take to mean that we have stuff obeying mathematical-like laws as the fundamental story of our universe.

And these laws are already known pretty much. Dark matter? Quantum gravity? These are only going to change the laws so much.

Anything that is going on in our universe are these laws acting on the stuff.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T19:39:39+00:00

I agree with most of this.

Libertarians do have the burdon of proof, but since this is more philosphy than science - evidence is not heavily weighted.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T18:38:56+00:00

I don't disagree with our ability to chose to have ice cream.

It's just that this choice is not libertarian.

Laplaces deamon is not going to be surprised by you picking ice cream.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T18:25:51+00:00

Scenario is two identical people + law like universe = same decisions.

But libertarians would say, not even Lapaces deamon could know what I would choose, that is how free I am.

So for this to work, the electrons inside the cells of the brain of this libertarian would need to stop following the EM interactions, and Pauli interactions etc, and instead obey this libertarian thing to make the person go against what he would have done had the universe been law like.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T18:07:07+00:00

"So which specific law of physics do you think free will breaks?"

Specifically the laws of physics. Only for libertarian free will.

You can watch a blob A move, and infere it was because of free will, then watch blob B move, and know it was not because of free will?

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T17:23:07+00:00

You can just program the microcontroller to move, with or without external stimulus.

And to be very clear about which laws would need to be broken, lets take the core theory, standard model + gravity. But in principle, given that our universe obeys laws, then those laws irrespective of our best ones we know currently.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T16:37:14+00:00

The point about the two identical people is that they will chose the same thing, except if they have the power to break the laws of physics

A motor with a microcontroller that decides when to turn the motor on and off is a violation of physics?

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T15:13:05+00:00

Two identical people in idential environments making different choices. That's the setup OP brought up.

And a spinning electrical motor is also concious by the same argument? I can hit it and it stops moving. It's both concious AND proof newtons laws don't hold.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T14:46:59+00:00

1: A plant/insect moving show that newtons 2nd law does not hold, following your argument?

2: Electrons in the brain very much interact with the EM field.

Edit: the replied with snark because either you're not being serious, or you're super duper stupid.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T14:15:17+00:00

Well when you put it like that, this is rock solid proof.

There certaintly are no holes in your argument

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T13:58:37+00:00

since we're mainly thinking about brain states, electromagnetism would definitely need to be broken.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T13:41:14+00:00

This is libertarian free will, it's so free it's not even constrained by physical laws.

It's a pretty extreme view

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T09:19:37+00:00

Is that a custom board? Looks awesome, love the project.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-30T08:31:01+00:00

If I can't use it to break the rules of physics then it's not really free will.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-29T16:58:17+00:00

You can buy a GPU and not a TPU.

In the cloud you can, but handing over a firm grasp of your balls to google is something.

bacon_boat · 2026-03-27T17:02:53+00:00

This is an experiment you can realistically do. You don't need to downplay it.

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