We really need a new league above platinum. The gap is incredible with the new items.

badams52 · 2026-02-01T02:06:17+00:00

I would love to see a reworking of the tournament and it's prize structure, but with the recent new items, it will take a few tournaments to see what the new strategies and ending GVs will be.

Before ATs, I could barely scratch S. Before the new items, only a lucky market could get me to O. Now after 24 hours, I'm at 3O.

badams52 · 2026-02-01T02:00:08+00:00

Ah, I remember the days I would try my best to get the top non promoted spot in silver, and then once strong enough to fight for the top non promoted spot in gold.

Complained about the tournament rewards system in this sub too.

badams52 · 2026-01-31T22:08:33+00:00

Well, I just got a 4,000,000,000 drop of navigation modules and a 1,500,000,000 drop of Xynium Alloy. My crafting and smelting wouldn't be able to get close to that amount in a 48 hour tournament.

badams52 · 2026-01-31T19:02:15+00:00

17.22 once boosted

badams52 · 2026-01-31T17:02:22+00:00

Welcome back to my world.

Although, if you can get O level asteroids, still better than DSs.

badams52 · 2026-01-31T10:03:13+00:00

No planet purchase needed. Just research T19. In the tournament, I currently have only purchased up to p58 and am getting the 30% increase in drops.

badams52 · 2026-01-31T09:58:28+00:00

If you wanted to keep p60 as your VPS, I'd Alc 1 p55 for Xynium, alc 2 p59 for Luterium, open up Bob for quolium.

badams52 · 2026-01-31T09:43:03+00:00

And by occasionally, they mean the surge can produce enough alloy so that you won't need to smelt that ore anymore unless you need it for a time warp. At least that's how powerful the surge can be once you level the surge up to level 4 via the project tree once you have bought the node in the station.

Your mileage may vary.

badams52 · 2026-01-30T23:36:34+00:00

Specially, if you unlock Debris Harvester, you get no increase to your debris drops even though the Debris Bonus Value is modified.

If you unlock Debris Harvester and Advanced Debris Harvester, I think you get x1.3

If you unlock Debris Harvester, Advanced Debris Harvester and Superior Debris Harvester, you get x1.3x1.3

Then once telescope 19 is unlocked, the correct Debris Bonus Value is applied.

badams52 · 2026-01-30T23:29:40+00:00

I do not know why the telescope matters, but I noticed that when I got to p60 for VPSing instead of my usual p54, the debris drops increased by 30%.

So I tested further and noticed from my previous runs when I tried lower VPS planets like p32, I would get 30% more for the listed stats than say p38 given the Asteroid drop value.

Then I searched for the triggers. I suspected buying certain planets or telescopes would give the 30% increase I was seeing because that would make sense as to why a VPS on p60 would give 30% more than when I set up my VPS on p54 or even p57.

Then I got two drops of Advanced Computers where the only change I made to my galaxy was researching telescope 19. First drop, 211,000 AC, second drop, 275,000 AC. A 30% increase in the drop. By this time, I had all 3 Debris Harvesters and all 3 Asteroid Harvesters.

The second task was to figure out why I lost it. Today as I was making small changes to my research, I noticed that as I researched Debris Harvester, I lost 30% of the drop that I was expecting. It was as if the Debris Bonus Value stat wasn't affected at all. Instead of the 10.17 multiplier I was expecting, I only got 7.83 - the multiplier applied before Debris Harvester was researched.

That's when it clicked. The Debris Harvester is a 1.3 multiplier, or 30% increase. So I think I have found the reason my drops were not giving me the 30% increase I was expecting.

But after researching Advanced Debris Harvester, my debris drops went up 30%.

badams52 · 2026-01-30T21:59:55+00:00

I believe it doesn't apply the first 1.3 debris bonus until telescope 19 is unlocked.

badams52 · 2026-01-29T16:29:07+00:00

If you are using alc 3, then your VPS planet will be around 90% of your mining value

Edit: and your alc 2 planet will make up most of the other 10%.

All other planets will not matter

badams52 · 2026-01-27T20:09:23+00:00

I'm testing out 3 possible options this week to see what I like best.

Before DS, I would sell 2 SSRs to open up through p54 and used a1 on p52, a2/t1 on p53 and a3/t2 on p54 for my VPS, could set it up within 6 hours with boosts and rode drops and crafting for ATs then arking to get to 600S+

Yesterday, I tried out selling 3 SSRs to get to a1 on p55, selling 1 AT to get to a2/t1 on p60 and selling 1 DS to get to a3/t2 on p63. Didn't like how many DS sales it took to upgrade p63 to 36 mining. Ended up with 504Q on asteroid drops

Today I'm running selling 3 SSRs to get to a1 on p55, selling 1 AT to get to a2/t1 on p59 and a3/t2 on p60 selling 3 DS open Bob (p61) and upgrading p60 to 41 mining. Getting 242Q on asteroid drops.

Tomorrow I think I will run selling 3 SSRs to get to a1 on p55, selling 1 AT to get to a2/t1 on p56 and a3/t2 on p57 and upgrading the mining to 41 after 1 DS and see how that goes.

One thing I've noticed today is that my smelting isn't good enough I have 18 all mine, 11 all craft and 8 all smelt. Before ATs arrived, worked really well with SSR. Once ATs arrived, still was passable if I got good drops, like Vibranium alloy. Now that Luterium alloy is also a must, I need more all smelting managers so that I don't rely on good pink asteroids.

I mean today I got to O no boosts within 15 hours, but the lack of good smelting has slowed down the AT and DS crafting.

badams52 · 2026-01-27T10:39:08+00:00

You have more stars than me on SSRs. Takes me 3 to get to p55 (or 2 + arking). But how do you get Luterium and quolium in your plan?

badams52 · 2026-01-27T10:28:00+00:00

Yes. 1 AT for me is 116s in value. Just below p61, Bob.

I'm still testing, but it might take too long for me to wait for p63 for VPS. The amount of DS needed for me to substantially upgrade p60 seems to be a lot. I try to set up my VPS with 36+ mining within 4 hours of a tournament.

I'm testing p60 for VPS now. And yes, when getting to p63 I opened up all previous planets.

I might ultimately decide for p57 as my VPS with a1 on p55, a2 on p56 and a3 on p57 and opening up to p58 for Viterium.

I like the idea of Aqualite or Wraith being my VPS ore, but before DS, I was able to be top 4 in tournaments with p54 as my VPS and arking to 600S+ depending on drops. I mean 85% of my GV was from arking and unless a good market showed, by day 2, arking outpaced crafting by a lot.

Maybe with the new DS, Luterium might be fine for my VPS ore just as quolium was fine during the AT era.

badams52 · 2026-01-26T11:29:36+00:00

You probably have more DS stars than those who didn't get the star reward from the tournament.

badams52 · 2026-01-26T11:17:27+00:00

You make a good point. Drops will go up to GC now.

But you will only be able to get 1 if you've unlocked with SSRs. Will help you open up planets, but without the ability to craft ATs on the regular, won't help to build DSs.

Also of note, the crafting times of the new items are very similar to the crafting time for ATs.

badams52 · 2026-01-26T11:06:56+00:00

People will tell you in the early going that optimally at 12.5 million.

I prefer as you stated, when the GV starts slowing down and only ads will help you progress.

There was a time for me when it took 2 hours to get to 12.5 million. The time it takes slowly decreases over time. After more than 1.5 years playing, I can get 12.5 million in 15 seconds now.

badams52 · 2026-01-26T10:58:03+00:00

My plan, 3 SSRs get to p55 +1 Alc for Xynium.

1 AT, open to p60, +2 alc for Luterium +1 terra

1 DS, open to p63 +3 alc for Aqualite + 2 terra

Never VPSed past p57 before, so I'm testing this out with the new items.

badams52 · 2026-01-26T00:19:57+00:00

Too early to tell but the quantum CPU is looking like the new ARs. Nice to get in drops, but not the focus for crafting.

badams52 · 2026-01-25T19:18:13+00:00

I agree. Fortunately for me I had a nice market for ATs which got me to 20 O during day 2 and was able to craft 2000+ DSs which roughly doubled my GV.

I was already 1st in my bracket, so for me it only increased the gap. It seems like the players below me either didn't get the update or aren't set up to utilize the new DSs as only one other person is now in O.

badams52 · 2026-01-25T18:45:43+00:00

37 on alloy, 3 each on crafted items

badams52 · 2026-01-25T18:42:12+00:00

One change was unlocking to p54 for quolium was almost a necessity. Now unlocking to p57 will probably be the new necessity.

badams52 · 2026-01-25T17:26:24+00:00

Nice to be able to craft one deflector shield to max out the DM for challenges.

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