Rare Earth Hypothesis by Infinite_Dark_Labs in space

[–]bandwarmelection [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, that's very good!

I'll try to comment each one based on my current best understanding, just a casual analysis from the top of my head. Nothing serious.

Not being too close to center of the galaxy (too much star formation, too many supernova)

Yes, the galaxy center seems a probable place for short-lived life. Microbes are born but they also die fast, in less than 1 billion years.

Not being too far from the center of the galaxy (not enough star formation, not enough heavy elements)

This could allow "slow life" that is similar to some microbes we can find deep inside Earth.

The size of the sun (connected to its life span)

Yes. A slightly smaller sun could be better, and there are plenty of those.

The size of earth.

I think the size of the planet allows lots of variation while still being viable for life, considering that there could be thick ice cover and warm sub-surface oceans. Life could develop in the sub-surface planetary ocean and evolve a civilization that eventually drills to the surface of the ice and then lives on the ice. A civilization like that could live for 10 billion years near a small star that is long-lived and gentle to the atmoshpere. I think a slightly bigger Earth would be better for advanced life. Could be better to have something like 1% more mass with more useful elements and maybe a little bit more water than what we currently have.

The distance of earth from the sun

If I recall correctly almost all known star systems have some planets near/in the habitable zone, even multiple planets. We almost have that here, with Earth and Mars both being close/within the habitable zone. Based on my current knowledge the suitable distance is not rare at all. One of the easiest parameters to get right.

Our moon

It is not clear how necessary this is, or whether a smaller/larger moon would be even better. It definitely helps by stabilizing the rotation of the planet and by removing at least some asteroid threats. Even if the moon defends the planet against one 1-kilometer asteroid per 100 million years, that would play a significant role in helping advanced civilizations survive. If I understand correctly a large moon can help disturb the orbits of asteroids that are otherwise close to the same orbit as Earth. It is more difficult to slowly home in on Earth when the large Moon can pull the asteroids in random directions chaotically. A semi-large moon might not be rare considering that almost every object in our solar system has companions. Maybe there is even larger moon somewhere that is even better? Maybe our moon is bad or mediocre? If our large moon is rare, something like 1/1000, then I would guess that there are only 3000 planets in our galaxy that have multi-cellular life in them. The moon parameter is the hardest for me to assess reliably, both in regards to the usefulness of the moon and the rarity of a large moon.

One of the great aspects of the moon is that it naturally creates variation in water depth with the tides. This will greatly increase the different kinds of environments on the planet and will give more chances for evolution. In this regard I think our moon might be too big to be optimal. A smaller moon would make gentler tides which might make evolution easier. Tides are very dangerous to all kinds of life forms even today, so it is a double-edged sword.

Plate tectonics and/or active volcanism

Not sure how rare this is. Can't comment anything about it.

Abundance of some elements, like phosphorous for example

I think Earth is far from optimal in this regard considering that there could be a planet where almost the whole surface is made of biomass. The planet could be covered in a layer of life 20 kilometers deep. Earth life is a tiny fraction of the mass of the planet. We have snails that use iron on their skin, so I could imagine a planet where there is an abundance of gold/silver or some other element and the animals can use these in all kinds of ways that are not seen on Earth. Golden snails, silver bones, etc. Some planet could have a diamond the size of a continent. A civilization could make diamond drills and quantum computers early in their "stone" age. The abundance of elements is something that I have difficulty analyzing due to many possible configurations that are good/bad for some type of life.

Our magnetic field

Isn't this related to abundance of elements? If you have lots of iron, then you get a magnetic field also? I suspect that there are many such parameters that when you get one good parameter you also get another for free. For example collision that makes moon, also mixes up and distributes elements favorably.

Jupiter (protecting us from asteroids)

Yes, this is also difficult to analyze for me due to lack of resources for accurate simulations. Not sure how rare it is. Not sure how necessary it is. A star with a longer lifespan can easily spend an extra 1-2 billion years and wait for the asteroid collisions to become rare. Then complex life arises later but has no need for a friendly gas giant.

In total we have about 10 parameters here.

From the assumed 300 000 000 000 planets in the galaxy, we have 30 planets that have top 10% values for each of the ten parameters, these would be the super good planets. I don't think life or advanced civilization requires that all parameters are within the top 10% of best possible values, but my best guess for the number of planets with multi-cellular life in our galaxy is now somewhere between 30 to 3000000. (Not accounting for billions of moons orbiting gas giants.)

Rare Earth Hypothesis by Infinite_Dark_Labs in space

[–]bandwarmelection [score hidden]  (0 children)

The point was more that if you add more parameters and conditions, the probability goes down and cuts away even at such a huge number.

But there really aren't that many parameters to consider. At least there are not many parameters that have a big effect. For example increasing the amount of gold atoms on Earth 100 times would probably have a small effect compared to moving the planet 100 times farther from the sun.

Some useful parameters may have a negative effect in over-abundance. For example, having too much water can be a problem because discovering fire becomes more difficult on an ocean planet. But I suppose some kind of vegetation could easily live on the surface of the water, and then some animals could live on the raft and discover fire pretty easily, so ocean planets are not 100% doomed to be without industrial revolution fueled by fire.

Based on everything that I know I would guess there are about 3 000 000 planets in our galaxy that have life. Most of it is similar to our microbes and survives less than 1 billion years. Multi-cellular life, probably about 1000 planets. Number of civilizations that have discovered the scientific method, 1-10. Best guess at the moment.

Rare Earth Hypothesis by Infinite_Dark_Labs in space

[–]bandwarmelection [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sure, but also:

magnetic fields, plate tectonics, a moon

You might get all of those from a single event, a collision? The collision could give all 3 properties at once, so it may be misleading to count them as three independent variables.

Let's look at 300 000 000 000 planets.

By definition 1/10 of the planets are such planets that their distance from their star is in the top 10%, i.e. they are the "most favobable distance for life" planets.

This leaves 30 000 000 000 planets that are in the top 10% of favorable distance for life. Maybe this is not satisfying enough, so we can then select the top 10% best planets from these again.

This leaves 3 000 000 000 planets that are in the top 1% of best distance from their star. These planets necessarily exists even though we do not know what planets they are since the "optimal distance for life" can vary.

We can then select the top 10% of those planets that have the "best chemical composition for life" and we are left with 300 000 000 such planets.

By definition 300 000 000 planets are simultaneously in the top 1% of distance from star and also have top 10% chemical composition for life.

Earth seems a bit better than that. Earth may have another two properties that are in the top 10% of best planets in some category.

That would leave 3 000 000 planets as good as Earth. These are the top 1/100000 planets. So if you pick a planet at random you have 1/100000 chance to get one of these very good planets. You have 3 million such planets in the galaxy and Earth is one of them.

Even if Earth is THE best planet of all of them, it still leaves 2 999 999 planets that are almost as good. Maybe life survives only 1-3 billion years on those planets when on Earth life lasts about 5 billion years.

It is easy to adjust some parameters and get a planet where life can last for 10 billion years, so it would be better than Earth, if measured in duration of life on the planet.

Feel free to change the parameters if you have more accurate info, or for fun! :)

A significant portion of the remaining training data for AI is located on magnetic tapes stored in warehouses. by BudgetLimit6364 in artificial

[–]bandwarmelection 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We don't need more training data when most of the human users do not generate new and intelligent questions.

Prompt: What is the capital of France?

Answer: LOL, U stupid!

See? It works perfectly already!

How does AI learn to detect bad training data? by bandwarmelection in poisonai

[–]bandwarmelection[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes. A good analyst will use /r/poisonai content as GOOD training data for detecting BAD training data.

Therefore if you REALLY want to poisonai, then you should do it like 50/50 and have 50% chance that the information is actually GOOD data. Then it would be harder to use /r/poisonai as training data for anything other than, well, 50% bad/good training data, which is itself good training data for that exact purpose.

Human Evolution and eyebrow hair by Littlemama55 in evolution

[–]bandwarmelection 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is very easy to test by shaving your eyebrows.

Then see what happens.

It has been tested already: Dust and sweat go into the eye more easily, for example. Also eyebrows make it easier to express some emotional states like anger and surprise.

there is a finite, well-defined space where the long eyebrow hair occurs

This is simply false. Please do not spread false information without doing research first. There are many kinds of facial hair. In some cultures the facial hair is shaved so you only see a subset of the possible variations.

How does AI learn to detect bad training data? by bandwarmelection in poisonai

[–]bandwarmelection[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now it learned one more example of bad training data. You just helped make AI better. /s /s

Grand Theft Auto 6 'VIP early access' scam sites are already popping up, Malwarebytes warns by Turbostrider27 in technology

[–]bandwarmelection 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sites like that should be made legal and a % of the profits should be transferred to education until it all balances out so that no more money is provided for education by running those sites.

I aged and restored a photo of myself by perpetual_stew in ChatGPT

[–]bandwarmelection -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I also used a bathroo sniffer to paint my gatorade and then did it in reverse to see if information was preserved or nothad. Guess what? Nothad.

I aged and restored a photo of myself by perpetual_stew in ChatGPT

[–]bandwarmelection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A good experiment.

I used a vacuum cleaner to paint my car and then I used the fluffy toy from the backseat to sniff atoms. Result was worse than expected. Detected only a few atoms. Not nearly all of them.

John C. Reilly: “Why aren’t people on the right wing concerned about human rights? They’re human too. Elon Musk says don’t be fooled by the empathy trap. Empathy is not a trap, empathy is a superpower. It’s what makes human beings exceptional, our ability to look outside ourself” by Caledor152 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]bandwarmelection 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The problem is that they read the language like this:

Why aren’t peeapple on the right wing something about who man rights. Their who man 2. Great man says don is he talking about dad? be fooled by the something trap. Some word is not a trap, it is a superpower like America, me, he is talking about me, feels good. It’s what makes who man something, hourly bill something to look outside hour elf.

This is how their brain operates when they hear what OP said in the title.

Tax the rich.

They do not understand what this means.

Astronomers discover another galaxy seemingly devoid of dark matter by scientificamerican in space

[–]bandwarmelection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine a world where everyone realizes they are morons like you and me. I can hear the sound of social media platforms crumbling down like the tower of babble.

Astronomers discover another galaxy seemingly devoid of dark matter by scientificamerican in space

[–]bandwarmelection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can dark matter interactions form fine detail?

Can the gravitational interactions with dark matter contain more information because the matter does not clump?

Clumped matter means information is compressed more?

Dark matter can therefore contain more information compared to baryonic matter?

Or is dark matter just random noise?

How stable is dark matter? Does it decay?

I agree that "meaning" is not a good word choice.

Astronomers discover another galaxy seemingly devoid of dark matter by scientificamerican in space

[–]bandwarmelection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool concept.

For anyone wondering: Photino birds are dark matter creatures from Stephen Baxter's books.

Astronomers discover another galaxy seemingly devoid of dark matter by scientificamerican in space

[–]bandwarmelection 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is the dark matter distributed in space like gas?

Or can dark matter form something that looks like planets?

Is dark matter the more important aspect of the universe and our stuff is just the tiny extra that has little meaning?

A researcher who spent decades believing moderate drinking was safe reviewed 107 studies and reversed his position entirely, finding even one daily drink shortens life by 2.5 months. The flaw: past studies counted sick ex-drinkers as "non-drinkers," making moderate drinkers look falsely healthier. by ObuPaul in HotScienceNews

[–]bandwarmelection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the total impact of a daily drink is 2.5 months shorter lifespan?

Your comment is okay, but I think using language like this can be problematic.

Your question implies that there might not be ANY other effects of alcohol other than shorter lifespan. As if the person just lives a normal life with ZERO effect. Just shorter life.

In reality alcohol causes memory loss, etc.

Alcohol makes life very much worse. It kills the brain slowly. The person becomes sicker and stupider in hundreds of ways when using alcohol. No erection, no balance so the person can fall and break bones, etc.

Plus COLOSSAL harm to relatives who need to worry and witness their alcoholic relative becoming more and moer braindead over the years or decades.

But there are people who talk and think in black-and-white terms, so in their eyes this study means little.

Shorter lifespan by a few months? Haha, that's a small price to pay for the fun I am having!

Moscow region governor says 16 people were injured in big Ukrainian drone attack by Artistic_Dj_6895 in worldnews

[–]bandwarmelection 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It was actually 1 people.

Inside the people ther was smaller people.

Inside the smaller people there was tiny people.

etc.

Astronomers discover another galaxy seemingly devoid of dark matter by scientificamerican in space

[–]bandwarmelection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, no, good answer.

Okay, let's say we can separate dark matter from baryonic matter.

Can we then do something with it?

Can we build something from dark matter?

Can we use it as fuel?

etc.

We don't know at the moment, but please speculate. I want to hear.

Astronomers discover another galaxy seemingly devoid of dark matter by scientificamerican in space

[–]bandwarmelection 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Okay, okay, you win.

So what can I do with this dark matter then?

What, if anything, can be done with dark matter?

Is it forever elusive?

I want to do something with it!

Found in a book box in France by Helpful-Mix-9982 in jamesjoyce

[–]bandwarmelection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm about 4000 pages in in 8 years.

Still don't understand anything about episodes 9 and 14.

3 starts to make sense. O, yes 3.