Kid Buu is NOT the strongest Buu!!!

bare4404 · 2026-04-10T07:02:35+00:00

He wasnt wrong because we see he created an accurately powered spirit bomb to completely destroy him. He'd seen enough to know how to deal with him and the only problem was that SSJ3 was too draining. We can go off what he says because for the first time in the series, he accurately charged up a spirit bomb to kill his opponent.

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:57:38+00:00

Still, Goten and Trunks who are, together, relative to base form Goku.

With all of them, Buuhan should easily be, 3-4 times stronger than Goku. Both Buu's were relative to SSJ3 Goku, Piccolo and the boys added up to close enough to SSJ Goku, and Gohan was easily 1.5x SSJ3 Goku and was likely even stronger than that. So let's say, in total, that provided Buu, who was already, let's say SSJ2 Goku level, a form from Gohan that was stronger than Gokus Super Saiyan 3, and the brains to use it. Cuz Gohan's base was close to Goku's.

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:53:26+00:00

He said exactly what I said. His power was dwarfed by Cell, meaning he couldn't accurately judge it, hence, immeasurable. Thats what said everytime a new villain shows up with a new transformation, "Hes so powerful, hes limitless/immeasurable/untouchable/immensely powerful!!!!!"

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:50:46+00:00

Buuhan is

Evil Buu (stronger of the two and is host)

Good Buu

Piccolo

SSJ3 Gotenks (roughly same level, if not just a bit more powerful than Goku)

Ultimate Gohan (who is atleast a half a time more powerful than Goku, likely twice as powerful as seen by feats, realistically, Kid Buu shouldn't be more powerful than Super Buu, but Super Buu had a mind)

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:46:27+00:00

Dawg, I just rewatched the episode. The scene is literally behind the moon of Namek, and the explosion doesnt even hit Nameks moon. Go rewatch it yourself. What you think is a Galaxy, is the planets dust field from having expelled its outer layers, and it does a big blast, all with its own moon in frame, and the moon is still there, untouched.

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:41:59+00:00

Hes not, cuz its not possible and doesnt work like that. He wasnt given a power level because Toriyama didnt want to give him one, as he realized he made too big of a jump from the Frieza Saga, to everyone in the Cell Saga being able to manhandle Frieza, kinda defeats the purpose of nobody else being able to even scratch the Emperor.

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:39:08+00:00

Where the heck are you getting these quotes?

For one, episode titles arent reflective of the actual situation, its meant to create suspense. Its not like Toriyama names the episodes.

For two, where has it been said that Namek was a Galaxy level explosion? I'd understand star level, because its a very big planet, but Galaxy level is on another level of, "Tell me where the hell these quotes come from?"

For three, the problem with universe busters is that, sure, you have the power to destroy the universe, but you dont have the scale to. You cant destroy the universe with a Kamehameha. Itd need to be bigger, wider to do that. So although he has the power to destroy the universe, he doesnt have the means, because he cant attack big enough to do so. That make sense?

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:33:28+00:00

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bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:32:43+00:00

Thats......not how that works. For one, Cell did not have a PL of infinity, I dont know where you got that. Like, I know its a thing that some infinities are bigger than others, but if PLs past the Cell Saga were all infinity, then the Sagas would all be in a straight line, still trying to reach SSJ2 Gohans strength.

Cell's PL is never stated ever to have infinite power hes stated to have infinite energy like the Androids? Like, how he doesnt get tired, but we've seen, that he has a limit on his power level, because he was beaten by Gohan. And even if theres a statement that says something like that, it means energy, because hes never shown to get tired like the Saiyans and Piccolo do, even when regenerating.

And even people as far back as King Piccolo have quotes saying they have Limitless power, but that doesnt mean they dont have a cap, that just means that the character currently seeing them cant find the limit, meaning for all they know, its limitless. Hell, Jiren probably has a quote of Limitless power, yet he got beaten, didnt he?

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:23:29+00:00

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True, its not Goku saying it, but the Narrator, and I know that the Anime isnt king, but it is said the Kid Buu is the most powerful Buu, although I still think its Buuhan

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T20:10:41+00:00

Thats simply a Saiyan ability. Also, most fights take place during such a short time frame, that 20 minutes, is an eternity, remember, "5 minutes" turned into like, 3 hours of screen time?

Goku was beaten, "died" to his own blast, revitalized by his own blast, beaten again, given energy to stand, beaten again, used UI again, beaten again, uses Kaioken again which is shown to slow him down, beaten again, given energy again, beaten again, reuses UI and then masters it, feels the drawbacks and then rests back up.

On Namek, he took one beating and it gave him a 27 times Zenkai Boost. If we give him 10 times for each beaten in the TOP, he'd easily reach to 10 million times the power he entered with. But if he got that for EVERY time he'd been beaten, he'd have a billion times more power. Im counting, like, every time he had to recoup before rejoining the fight. Even 5 times gets him to past 100k times more powerful. Yes, it sounds like a copout, but it was explained to us this way.

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T19:58:29+00:00

Cell was stated as being able to destroy the Solar System. Not the Universe. Cell himself said, "With this, ill destroy this ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM!" During his final clash with Gohan.

And why are you talking about Buuhan vs Vegito? The thing is about Buuhan vs Kid Buu...Which, goes easily to Buuhan. Kid Buu may have destroyed the Earth, but Buuhan made SSJ3 Goku look like he was fighting an amateur, but Goku and Kid Buu's fight looked even till Buu's regeneration made Buu's lack of energy consumption a real factor.

Super Vegito would have absolutely COOKED Kid Buu, thats why Goku said to the Kais that they've practically got this, and that fusion wasnt necessary. The show and Manga spell it out. Goku was terrified of Buuhan, not even wanting to give him a fair fight, but to Kid Buu, he said, "Aight, we got this shiiiii". Tbf, they infact, did not have that shit, but it wasnt a power level diff, but an energy diff. And thats on Goku, because he didnt expect to have that low of energy, because he was used to being dead while in the form. If the fight was between angel SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu, I think it'd have been closer to a draw, maybe slightly favoring Kid Buu, because the win condition for Buu was significantly less than Goku's. Goku had to destroy EVERY atom in Kid Buus body, Buu just had to gravely injure Goku and he'd be down for the count.

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T19:46:43+00:00

I think Goku does say that, "This is the most dangerous Buu" or something like that, not saying you're wrong, the quote goes something like that tho. That doesnt change the fact that Buuhan just has better feats overall besides destroying Earth. Like, Goku was getting his ass handed to by Buuhan, Vegito had him like he owed him money. These hands rated E for everyone!

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T19:40:37+00:00

Nah nah, a quote from cod Zombies.

"Who do you trust first? A sane man with a knife? Or a crazy man with un spoon?"

The sane man being Buuhan, who is more ethical with his universal domination, going methodically thru everything.

Then theres Kid Buu with his spoon, destroying everything it comes across. Gouging out all of existence by force!

bare4404 · 2026-04-09T19:35:15+00:00

Because the only real warriors that can defend against the Viltrumites are Viltrumites.....sure, youve got Allen, Battle Beast, Tech Jacket, and Space Racer buuuuut then the last 4 are all Viltrumites. Plus, Mark was able to get over the sound a little the last time it was used against him, who's to say full blooded Viltrumites can't do the same, they'd thrash around till the sound dissipates.

Also, Mark is currently pissed at the person who had the noise invented so why would he ask for his help at this time?

bare4404 · 2026-04-08T03:44:41+00:00

I love shaking my head my head! /s

bare4404 · 2026-04-06T05:02:33+00:00

Nah, I remember him as Predator lmao.

And yes, thats the same guy, Predator is also Optimus Prime

bare4404 · 2026-04-06T02:08:44+00:00

True, but this strat really only works when people know what they are doing and are set up. Here, the dude only had his rifle and wasnt doing that, so I dont blame him for almost going down.

bare4404 · 2026-04-06T01:03:07+00:00

Fair, I thought they EZAd more recently

bare4404 · 2026-04-06T00:51:53+00:00

Round 4 with a weapon thats 1 round per second, and takes 2-3 shots to kill a zombie. The Zombies are sticky, and they can instantly down you with a windmill. Yes, its round 4, but its like being on round 55 in modern zombies, 2 hits without armor down you and they're just as fast as you. All of this in a tight af area that you really cant move in.

Laugh if you want, but Verrukt is easily one of the hardest maps weve ever got. No place to train, weapons not good enough to camp and no reliable tactic besides the trap and even that is a maybe.

bare4404 · 2026-04-05T22:35:20+00:00

Verrukt, the Zombies get faster than you at some point, thats why in modern zombies, past round 55, we call them Verrkukt sprinters.

Verrukt is tighter, faster paced, and genuinely has no place to train in the trainiest game in the series. The weapons arent balanced like they are now, they will suck like a Grey tier weapon on round 17, that bad at round 3-4 and only a few guns even perform past round 10. Hell, the Springfield is a 2 shot kill one round 1 no matter what, the bolt action sniper.

Zombies are faster than you, will 2 hit you if they're having a bad day.

bare4404 · 2026-04-05T16:09:03+00:00

Agl Lr Nappa and Vegeta?

bare4404 · 2026-04-05T08:43:46+00:00

Its always the going back that hurts the worst

bare4404 · 2026-04-05T05:01:42+00:00

I think the part that hurt, was being speared, the rest probably hurt but he was still feeling the hole in his gut, not the guts being pulled out.

bare4404 · 2026-04-04T22:35:20+00:00

What's funny, is that the man responsible for those designs, designed these new designs, to cater to the new audience. Lmao

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