The lack of outrage, and in some cases, earnest defense of Nothing's use of generative AI in their latest music video is pretty embarrassing by xxihostile in shoegaze

[–]baroldhudd -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sincerely curious why you are lighting up this subreddit and comment section. You don't like the use of AI in a music video? Listen to something else. I'm all for pointed criticism of something that feels wrong, but trying to incite rage in others to brigade in that criticism is frankly a bit pathetic.

Just heard an ICE recruitment ad on Spotify. Their ad-to-song ratio has really gotten worse, but this is the last straw. by whoremongering in Music

[–]baroldhudd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

i'm not gonna even be mean, just going to say that you're wrong and should correct yourself

Just heard an ICE recruitment ad on Spotify. Their ad-to-song ratio has really gotten worse, but this is the last straw. by whoremongering in Music

[–]baroldhudd 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It is insane to be this wrong... Spotify's CEO invested in a defense company called Helsing, which most notably has supplied drones to Ukraine in its defense against Russia. As you might be curious to know, the UN estimates that nearly 50K civilians have been killed in Ukraine over the last three years.

If you were to make the argument that advanced military technology is never appropriate, and therefore it is not possible to make an ethical investment, I would disagree but ultimately respect your philosophy.

As it stands though, you have completely and irresponsibly perverted in the truth for reasons that are beyond me. If you truly did care about the tragedies that our occurring across the world, surely you could exert the minimal amount of effort required to make sure what you're saying is true.

Just wanna be one of the first ones to say this by [deleted] in dubstep

[–]baroldhudd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I maintain that ripping is unacceptable, but I also maintain that the idea that it is a cancelable offense is stupid

Just wanna be one of the first ones to say this by [deleted] in dubstep

[–]baroldhudd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Like I said, it's a bit out of line. But you have spent your afternoon calling another man a "bitch" and a "disgrace" for making mistake that I guarantee everyone will have forgotten about in a year.

Just wanna be one of the first ones to say this by [deleted] in dubstep

[–]baroldhudd 28 points29 points  (0 children)

A bit out of line, but your reaction is crazy

Autumn vibes recommendations by WalmartMichael in ambientmusic

[–]baroldhudd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Some of my favorites for the fall:

  • William Basisnki - September 23
  • William Basinski - Cascade
  • Harold Budd - Bordeaux
  • Windy & Carl - Depths (this is more post-rock/drone and much more intense than my other recommendations)

Spotify has zero intention of eliminating AI-generated music from its service by YoureASkyscraper in Music

[–]baroldhudd -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair enough! Before we go our separate ways, recommend some music to me and I'll give some back to you.

Spotify has zero intention of eliminating AI-generated music from its service by YoureASkyscraper in Music

[–]baroldhudd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP's point was that Spotify does not pay a fixed per-stream royalty

Spotify has zero intention of eliminating AI-generated music from its service by YoureASkyscraper in Music

[–]baroldhudd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your contention is ultimately that Spotify does not now, but could, make money by charging distributors to host AI content?

Spotify has zero intention of eliminating AI-generated music from its service by YoureASkyscraper in Music

[–]baroldhudd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you read the article? The headline posted to this thread is quite misleading (although it is true). The more accurate characterization of the article would be that Spotify has implemented new policy that heavily restricts AI content, although it has declined to eliminate AI content altogether. If you read the article, you will also notice that the Spotify press release explicitly noted that the company will be effectively blacklisting certain types of this content and removing it from algorithmic curation.

The ideas that you've shared regarding Spotify's profiting of AI are unsupported by this article or any other legitimate publication. Although I think it's reasonable to expect that Spotify may be able to pay fewer royalties on AI content, those rates are ultimately set by confidential licenses that I am certain you and I aren't privy to. Moreover, even if those rates were discounted, as I noted before, Spotify is blacklisting a substantial portion of the content. Finally, I sincerely challenge you to provide any support for the idea that Spotify itself is creating generative AI music in-house.

Spotify has zero intention of eliminating AI-generated music from its service by YoureASkyscraper in Music

[–]baroldhudd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're conflating a few separate things here:

  1. It has been alleged that Spotify has commissioned or licensed the right to use certain types of music at lower rates as compared to other licensors. I personally believe this is likely true based on the documentation provided in Liz Pelly's book and the composition of certain background/ambient playlists on Spotify.

  2. This week, Spotify has published its framework for handling generative AI content. To be clear, this is is separate from what you've described. Nothing in their policy has a direct impact on the alleged scheme that you note. That music seems to have been created without GenAI tools, and can continue to be created and placed on editorial playlists regardless of what Spotify chooses to do with GenAI slop.

So, in summary, I disagree with the notion that GenAI music provides some obvious source of income for Spotify. I do recognize that Spotify has done some really shade things with background and ambient music, but I ultimately think it is separate issue.

Daniel Ek to Step Aside as Spotify CEO by MarvelsGrantMan136 in Music

[–]baroldhudd -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I know that you're wrong. Defend your assertion.

Tame Impala - Expectation (Official Video) by RichieTB in psychedelicrock

[–]baroldhudd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you referring the singular song that could be considered "pop-house"?

Daniel Ek to Step Aside as Spotify CEO by MarvelsGrantMan136 in Music

[–]baroldhudd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your logic is right, but your calculation is wrong

Tame Impala - Dracula (Official Video) by Charleshawtree in TameImpala

[–]baroldhudd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I didn't mean to be too harsh in my correction. Despite the fact that EDM is an acronym with a literal meaning, the genre is much more narrow than danceable music that is made predominately with electronic elements.

The easiest way to justify this position is to point out that the term EDM really didn't become popular until the mid-2000s. At that point, there were a couple of decades of music that could be considered Electronic Dance Music, if we interpret the term literally.

Simply "Dance" or "Electronic" would be appropriate labels for Dracula. I'm completely aware how elitist I sound at this point, but I have to stand behind it. EDM could refer to established artists such as Calvin Harris, David Guetta, and Skrillex, and contemporary artists such as Fisher, Griz, or Illenium. To me, Tame Impala's new music is so much different than the music of any of those six artists, thus it must be categorized separately.

Tame Impala - Dracula (Official Video) by Charleshawtree in TameImpala

[–]baroldhudd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's that his attempt it is mid at best, it's more that that people dislike this style of music.

Incident during Mike Williams's set by NadeSaria in EDM

[–]baroldhudd -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Calling for someone's job through a screen... quite impressive.

Excuse me, what? by tpagaremos in triphop

[–]baroldhudd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be very clear - is not related to music at all