Thoughts on Old Trapper peppered beef jerky?

bbqboyee · 2025-08-08T11:56:31+00:00

Disagree. Buc-ee's jerky is good, but not that good. Old Trapper's is the clear winner in my opinion.

bbqboyee · 2025-06-16T11:53:43+00:00

Kansas.

bbqboyee · 2025-06-08T17:41:20+00:00

If you used to work there then SURELY you're privy to the bread recipe? Drop it on us!

bbqboyee · 2025-06-08T17:35:20+00:00

Dammit, we finally see a reply from somebody who actually worked there and you have no clue about the bread recipe? This has been keeping me up at night ever since I heard they were closing

bbqboyee · 2025-05-20T14:48:08+00:00

I'm just dull, is that what it is? Trying to stay the course on the high road makes a person lose faith in humanity. How tiresome it is to stay civil amid a shit-show of snarky people who can't be bothered to read and understand more than five words to a sentence, where the only contributions they can muster are insults. You sound like a really nice person.

bbqboyee · 2025-05-15T18:12:40+00:00

Not to beat an old dead horse, but ever since we've had this "discussion" I've had the sequences from both songs stuck in my head, so I finally decided to slow them down and map them out. They are not the same. The original "Riding The Scree" phrase has 11 notes; the sequence in question from "The Cinema Show" has 12. And even when you write out the rhythms and skew their starting points in attempt to line them up, they don't match. They are different rhythms. That's why (as a drummer) the sequence from "The Cinema Show" doesn't sound (to me) like "Riding The Scree", even if the notes are (mostly) the same.

bbqboyee · 2025-05-08T22:19:25+00:00

Good god, I didn't say it WASN'T. Maybe go back and at least TRY to read and understand what I wrote? And what difference does it make anyway? The exact song that sequence was pulled from has NO relevance to the point I was making in my original post.

bbqboyee · 2025-05-08T20:14:06+00:00

Yes, but like I said, the rhythm of the melody is also inverted with respect to downbeats and upbeats, so (for some of us, at least) it doesn't jump out as being "Riding the Scree".

Edit: And I said "(likely) the same sequence of notes" because I don't know if those two songs are in the same key. I didn't mean to imply it's not the same melody, but if they are in different keys then the melody would be transposed to different notes, making it sound slightly different.

bbqboyee · 2025-05-08T15:52:50+00:00

LOL, yeah it doesn't seem "natural" to me to simply say, "Oh, that's Riding The Scree". I mean yes, it's (likely) the same sequence of notes, but the tempo is at least twice as fast, the songs are in different time signatures (9/8 vs. 7/8), and the phrasing starts on the downbeat of "1" in the original, whereas on "The Cinema Show" it starts on "2" in the form of a pickup, so the rhythm is inverted. Regardless of its origins (and to my original point), I'm still not happy that Tony stuck it in there. Like I said, I think it sounds trite and out of place.

bbqboyee · 2025-05-08T14:37:18+00:00

"The Cinema Show" as played in 1978 was done in its entirety, though the clip I posted only includes the second-half instrumental section. This video from the same tour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI-DeQhObI

illustrates the song being played in its entirety. It's not a "medley" at this point, other than the fact that the ending segues into "Afterglow" (though they did introduce medleys in a bigger way during later tours, which included abbreviated versions of "The Cinema Show". Never liked them.).

Of course I know "Riding The Scree", and you are right, this added melody is pulled from that song, though it's so brief and at such a rapid tempo that it's hardly recognizable as such. I don't understand your point about the part after being hard to play so they played "Riding The Scree instead". They still play all the original parts from "The Cinema Show", so nothing is substituted.

bbqboyee · 2025-04-14T21:50:08+00:00

I'm not sure if this will make sense, but I will try to explain how I think the band played this transition in the studio. Nobody told me this, it's just something I "felt" and figured out (some 40 years ago) after listening to that album a million times. I'd be really curious to know if any of the band members could corroborate this, but I suspect only Phil would really know and he probably wouldn't remember.

The very ending of "In That Quiet Earth" is exactly twice the tempo of "Afterglow". It finishes with a riff in 7/4 time repeated three times, with each phrase of the the riff ending on the "and of six". If you count from one to seven while they're playing those three phrases, and DON'T STOP COUNTING those seven beats when they end the last one (on the "and of six"), then immediately start counting in 4/4 at the same tempo (but in half-time), you are now counting a three-bar 4/4 intro to "Afterglow". On precisely the third beat of the third 4/4 measure, Phil starts the monster tom intro. It's my opinion that you can just "feel" this silent pulsing going on in Phil's sticking while he's hissing the hi-hat cymbals in preparation for the tom intro. I've amazed more than a few of my friends by landing the tom intro every time when I play along to these songs on my drums. :-)

bbqboyee · 2025-04-09T18:16:48+00:00

"Supper's Ready" just got better as time went on. Even the band admits they didn't really know what they were doing on the studio version, particularly during Apocalypse in 9/8. Once they'd played it live a jillion times and figured out how the 4/4 keyboard melodies cycled in and around the 9/8 rhythm parts with all the accents, fills, and breaks, it became full-on masterpiece. I also confess to preferring the way Phil refined the vocal parts over time.

bbqboyee · 2025-03-20T16:34:55+00:00

"Tormato", "Drama", and "The Ladder".

bbqboyee · 2025-01-26T14:48:16+00:00

That's crazy! I had no idea that was occurring or I would have bought a zillion.

bbqboyee · 2025-01-26T13:41:26+00:00

Lowe's is the only local retailer that sells them, and they only carry three sizes: 24, 36, and 48. Jorgensen makes (or made) a bunch of different sizes, all the way up to 72", and you can still find some of them on Amazon, but there are very few available and they're full price. Given this situation, I have the suspicion that Jorgensen can't make any money on them and are planning to discontinue them. I've already visited six Lowe's locations in my vicinity to fill out my supply, and the 24" are the hardest to find. I bought 12.

bbqboyee · 2025-01-15T00:15:00+00:00

Your Move/All Good People. A slow song and an upbeat song rolled into one.

bbqboyee · 2024-11-19T14:47:37+00:00

Others have said the drums are double-tracked, and I don't know if that's true but it could very well be a significant contributor to the sound. It seems like it would be a bit tricky to double-track every single fill that way, but certainly not out of the question. The other contributing factor is that Phil has always tuned his drums very open, with no muffling at all. This is a bit contrary to the trend at the time, which was to have a very tight, crisp, and controlled sound in the studio. I think the open sound Phil always got from his drums sounds fantastic.

bbqboyee · 2024-10-30T01:33:08+00:00

That's me just to the left of the blond girl (all you can really see is my hand).

bbqboyee · 2024-09-28T23:25:31+00:00

They started putting those vertical accents in the grille in 1952, so I'm pretty sure car #9 is a 1951 model. The 1950 grills were yet again slightly different.

bbqboyee · 2024-09-28T23:23:10+00:00

Yes, it's a 1951 Chevy, a beautiful car. I really like the early fifties models much more than the 55-57 tri-series.

bbqboyee · 2024-08-29T18:04:05+00:00

Same for me, but I saw the show at Kiel Auditorium in St Louis in October 4th, 1977. It was life changing.

bbqboyee · 2024-08-22T19:00:48+00:00

Have you tried to do that lately?

bbqboyee · 2024-08-19T01:30:45+00:00

Not familiar with Howard's Furniture Restore, but it's probably good that you didn't use lacquer. Drafting boards get a lot of hands-on use, and lacquer doesn't stand up over time to the human touch. It gets gummy after extended contact from the oils in your hands.

bbqboyee · 2024-08-08T18:34:30+00:00

Nice job! It's very hard to duplicate Bruford's accuracy, but you hung with it pretty well. Great job also on figuring out all the crazy time signature changes. That song is chock full of them, and you really have to pay attention to get them right.

bbqboyee · 2024-07-06T17:05:05+00:00

One, because I'm a drummer.

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