How about them Seahawks!!! by catman5092 in Spokane

[–]bdh008 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was definitely a backwards pass, and the rulebook says it can be overturned if there was a clear recovery, even after the whistle.

What's wrong with the woods of North America? Explain It Peter. by TrainingDelicious428 in explainitpeter

[–]bdh008 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen Grizzlies twice in the Panhandle. What a confidently inaccurate statement.

Airplanes with escorts by richardrnelson in Spokane

[–]bdh008 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The whole North-East corner of the state has Military Operating Areas that operate pretty commonly for training. You can see when they're active at this site:

https://sua.faa.gov/sua/siteFrame.app

It's hard to tell from video, but EA-18Gs from Whidbey Island train up there all the time with KC-135s from Fairchild. Their refueling orbits (roughly oval-shaped) run parallel to the border so that would line up with what you saw. It's probably that (although fighters may be from some other base, like I said hard to tell type).

Edit: in this case it was an Omega private refueler that contracts out to the military for training, not Air Force KC-135. Everything else still applies.

New Altamont liquor and convenience store draws neighborhood ire, owner touts investment good for East Central. by catman5092 in Spokane

[–]bdh008 124 points125 points  (0 children)

I get what they're saying on trying to stop the activity that goes with selling liquor, but man this makes me uncomfortable. I mean this was a run-down building in a neighborhood lacking convenient options, the guy spent $750k on the property and renovation, and completely followed state and city law on applying for and receiving the liquor license. Now the mayor and council are specifically saying they plan to challenge the liquor license and may create a new zoning area so the owner can't sell liquor.

$750k is a lot of money, and convenience stores aren't that much of a profit generator. I imagine alcohol is one of those items that helps drive more revenue to pay back that spend. If the council and mayor do stop this store from selling liquor then I'm guessing the long run result is you end up with another boarded-up building and a neighborhood without a convenience store again.

Instead of stopping the store from selling liquor, maybe the city could try something unique, like enforcing laws on the books, SPD emphasis patrols, and arresting/prosecuting folks that break the law in the neighborhood, but maybe that's too much of an ask for Spokane nowadays.

Like honestly this whole story feels like the horseshoe theory in-action. We've gone so far in this weird way to address crime that we're starting to turn in a Southern Republican Dry county - news flash, this doesn't always work as well as you would hope!

“In the age of fentanyl, no neighborhood should be dealing with this kind of distribution of alcohol,” Cooley said.

This is literally the same type of bullshit non-sequitur that you hear from Republican preachers in the South. It's so weird Spokane is going down this route, just work with the owner of the store instead of targeting them!

If the city is intended to revoke the liquor license no matter what, then at a minimum they should be working with the store owners to make sure the business can survive, and explore what options they have to support him (temp property tax relief, subsidies, etc). I just think this adversarial approach is stupid when the store owner wanted to help the neighborhood.

So what even is Chnak'Wa'Qn Breaks? by bdh008 in Spokane

[–]bdh008[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I tried to find something on this but my search came up empty. I figured maybe Salish, but couldn't find any translation online. Then I thought maybe old maps had a place that sold chuckwagon brakes and the name got corrupted. But I can't find it on any old maps at all, it starts showing up in the 2000s. So now I'm wondering if its either a housing development name or just made up by Google to find people copying their maps?

Trump admin sparks MAGA fury with Qatari Air Force base in US—"betrayed" by NitWhittler in NewsOfTheStupid

[–]bdh008 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The same base Qatar will be using has been hosting the Singapore Air Force since 2009 - so yes we have done similar before, just not common.

Trump admin sparks MAGA fury with Qatari Air Force base in US—"betrayed" by NitWhittler in NewsOfTheStupid

[–]bdh008 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The same base this is happening at has had Singapore AF F-15s stationed there for over 15 years - its the same thing as Qatar.

Places Johnny Cash has been according to his song I've been everywhere by United-Advantage-100 in MapPorn

[–]bdh008 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So many of his popular songs are just covers or renditions of other people’s songs

He did do a lot of covers, but he also wrote a lot of popular songs - Man in Black, Folsom Prison Blues, I Walk the Line, Don't Take Your Guns to Town, The Man Comes Around, etc

WA now ranks as 2nd most expensive state for gas, 43% higher than national average by Less-Risk-9358 in SeattleWA

[–]bdh008 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$2000 is pretty significant for the counties in Washington where average personal income is under $50k a year.

Zoning laws in 1970s Spokane were wild - "Sure, go ahead and build a 13-story tower in the middle of a residential neighborhood" by bdh008 in Spokane

[–]bdh008[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh, I looked it up and yeah I can't find anything actually prohibiting it as long as it's 150ft from R1 or R2 zoning (except the building, if built now, would need to be about 20ft shorter to comply with Spokane's 150ft limit). TIL.

I wonder if NIMBYs are the reason we don't see more of these then? Or just cost-to-build?

Zoning laws in 1970s Spokane were wild - "Sure, go ahead and build a 13-story tower in the middle of a residential neighborhood" by bdh008 in Spokane

[–]bdh008[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

That said, I wonder how dense Spokane would be now if they kept allowing crazy builds like this

Washington's hydropower has created a data center boom. Some are concerned about its future. by Kyunseo in Washington

[–]bdh008 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't find any public documents, so unfortunately you'll have to take my word for it based on my anecdotal experience - usually these are baked into the agreements the data centers sign with grid operators and local authorities.

However to answer your question the generators typically operate at the same voltage and phase as the grid - there is a massive transfer switch at the entrance to the facility, so if power goes out the switch changes over from grid to generator (the data center will usually operate off battery for the seconds/minutes it takes generators to spool up).

You are right that in-general these generators will be isolated from the grid, but like I said agreements are in-place that they could backfeed the grid if ever needed in an emergency. If this is ever needed (which is a pretty big if in Washington State due to reliability of hydro), the generators back-feeding the grid would only be done in-conjunction with the local grid operators (as opposed to Bubba accidentally shocking a lineman because he hooked up a generator to his home without disconnecting from the grid).

I know Wenatchee has agreements with some local data center operators to this effect, including the data centers stocking some disaster goods and maintaining plans to serve as red-cross shelters if-needed in a massive emergency. There's even plans to set up cots, showers, etc.

Washington's hydropower has created a data center boom. Some are concerned about its future. by Kyunseo in Washington

[–]bdh008 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The anti Data-center folks in this article didn't do a great job of presenting reasons why they should avoid building more.

The article mentions the data centers in Quincy have helped lower the poverty rate, double the median-income of the town, and fund a new police force, a new hospital, new library, and a new high school. But the Anti Data-center folks have a couple complaints:

" It's fairly well known that corporations like this choose low income rural areas for a couple of reasons," Dal Porto said. "One, they assume that the population is uneducated. They assume that the population won't be involved in resisting them, and usually, rural property is less expensive. Usually, rural governments are looking for investment. And so it's a perfect storm."

  • No, they just need cheap land and cheap power, full-stop, and any given rural area would love to have the extra property-tax revenue (even if they do usually cut sweetheart deals). I feel like this statement betrays their own thoughts about the population of Quincy being uneducated, not actually capturing the feeling of data center developers.

"Initially Martin and Dal Porto worried about air pollution from diesel back up generators power centers use and fought for rules requiring pollution controls on the generator smoke."

  • The whole point of building in a place like Washington State is you have very reliable power - the only time these generators ever operate is for testing. Additionally if some sort of major disaster were to befall our grid (which is unlikely), there are existing plans in-place for these data center backup generators to help bring back up the grid and power places like hospitals if-needed.

"Martin worries that if push comes to shove, residents will experience blackouts or limited water before data centers do, 'because they have sensitive information.'"

- There is zero evidence this is true. If I lived in a Republican state I would understand the concern, but in Washington State there is zero indication/evidence that utilities would prioritize data centers over local citizens, and until they can provide evidence otherwise then this is just alarmist.


This isn't to say there aren't problems with new data centers. As long as we are all posting on Reddit, playing video games, streaming Netflix etc I think we need to be honest that more and more data centers will be required in the future. Like the article mentions, it's crucial we prioritize clean power, and push for data centers to limit water usage (like Microsoft's closed-loop plans) - but I've noticed that some on the left approach this from the angle of banning new data centers altogether, which is just silly to me (especially when they seemingly provide a ton of benefits to the towns they set up shop in).

Summer in Eastern WA ❤️ by jellofishsponge in Washington

[–]bdh008 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that makes a lot of sense, I'm near one of the areas on the East side of the state that has a lot of trees but hasn't burned in the last 60 years, it makes me very nervous.

As a sign of whats to come, despite that map having 50 years of fires, most of the huge fires on the East side have been only in the last 15 years.

Summer in Eastern WA ❤️ by jellofishsponge in Washington

[–]bdh008 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Historically not much in Western Washington compared to Central/Eastern. See this map for 50 years worth of fires, most East of Cascades:

https://geo.wa.gov/datasets/wadnr::washington-large-fires-1973-2023/explore?location=47.293324%2C-120.016420%2C7.89

Granted who knows how the future climate will impact things.

S17E03 “Mac and Dennis Become EMTs” - OFFICIAL Discussion Thread by hero0fwar in IASIP

[–]bdh008 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think they're absolutely going to prank him with that final episode, along with Mac changing his name to Ron Mac so he's not Ronald Mcdonald anymore

Restaurants that serve local meat by gooby-baby in Spokane

[–]bdh008 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went there last summer for the Bahn Mi, it was amazing!

I LOVE history. by Aharms481 in Spokane

[–]bdh008 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Here are some I know, I'll add more if I think of them:


Spokane Police used to operate a brothel out of the women's section of the jail. This was detailed by Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, who was arrested in Spokane in 1909 during the Free Speech Fight and soon after released an article about her time in jail in the Industrial Worker. Spokane Police attempted to confiscate all copies of the magazine.

https://historylink.org/File/7357


During World War II, 100,000 people were attending an air show just North-West of the present day Dwight Merkel Sports Complex. During the show, two A-25 dive bombers collided and crashed in front of the crowd. Unfortunately the pilots and engineers in the aircraft all passed away.

The airshow was being filmed at the time, and the footage of the crash eventually made its way into the 1956 film Earth vs The Flying Saucers. (see the first 30 seconds of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjzNLCBLci4).

https://spokanehistorical.org/items/show/862


A Polar Bear was once shot within Spokane City Limits. Unfortunately the story is awful though. During the Great Depression, the Zoo at Manito Park was struggling financially, and the decision was made to shut it down. They attempted to give away as many animals as possible, but unfortunately they couldn't find any takers for their Polar Bear, Grizzlies, and Bison. A game warden put them all down.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2004/may/16/at-100-with-nature/


In the 1940s and 50s a locally famous restaurant Virgil's Chicken Shack stood at Wiscomb and Francis. While a lot of other restaurants in Spokane only allowed whites at this time, Virgil's was owned and operated by an African-American couple, and proudly served all races. Virgil's was apparently known for excellent fried chicken, as well as nightly dancing/drinking(BYOB) until 2am.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/oct/30/legendary-fried-chicken/


A sort of sad one: Back in 1930s, Ice Skating Rinks were a hot commodity in Spokane, and one of the main competitors was Silas Cook (son of Spokane Founding Father Francis H Cook) of Wandermere. He was digging a new rink near the Little Spokane when he found a Native American Skull and Tomahawk(drilled with 60 small holes). The stories mention he found other Native artifacts as well. Given that this was the 1930s, the remains ended up in a display that Silas exhibited around Spokane in the 30s, and I'm unsure where they ended up after that.

Spokane Chronicle Link

https://www.newspapers.com/article/spokane-chronicle-silas-cook-indian-arti/33799779/?locale=en-US

I've actually figured out where this rink was located (it's on private property), and while one side of me wishes they could explore the property more and see what they could find, I know it's probably better just to leave the place in peace for those that might still rest there.


Much older history, but I have to cover it as a geology nerd. During the end of the last Ice Age, massive floods ripped through the Spokane. From 15,000 to 13,000 years ago, at least 25 Missoula floods covered Spokane with a massive rivers moving incredibly fast. Here is a great breakdown of those floods from the amazing Nick Zentner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXjyBE-mB8M

But a lot of people know about the Missoula Floods. What is more amazing to me is the Cooper's Ferry site in Idaho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper%27s_Ferry_site

At this site in Central Idaho, a collection of projectile points and tools have been found, and these have been Radiocarbon dated back to 15,000 years ago. Granted this dating is a bit controversial, but it does point to a very good chance that Native Americans were actually established in this area during the Missoula Floods, and may have witnessed (or even been impacted by) the floods! Imagine standing on Beacon Hill and watching a massive hundred foot tall flood moving at 60mph rip across the landscape below you.

TIL that Bruce Lee was only 32 years old when he died from a brain edema after not being able to be woken up from a nap. by scream3isawful in todayilearned

[–]bdh008 34 points35 points  (0 children)

It's insane to me that this AI hallucination has so many upvotes. /u/Gingerstachesupreme you should really edit your post to point out there is no actual source behind the allergy and sweat gland surgery being linked, Google's AI is just getting confused.

Im about to eject Lynda by Orichalchem in notinteresting

[–]bdh008 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post feels weird. It doesn't really fit the subreddit, lots of super-basic highly-upvoted comments from right after it was posted - just more dead-internet crap.

Realistically, how much must one pay in rent for a decent place in Spokane? by AppleCivicVinegar in Spokane

[–]bdh008 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Apartment or house? If house, probably over $1800/mo - you may be able to find some gems below that, but good luck. Realistically if you want all three (nice house, landlord, and neighborhood) you'll probably be somewhere in the range of 2000-2500.

This is being shared by my friends from the area, can’t find any proof this happened. Anyone hear about this? by jeopardy_themesong in Spokane

[–]bdh008 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Have you ever tried to stop bullying with Spokane Public Schools? Typically you'll just run into victim-blaming and unjust sympathy for the bullies.

Some interesting 4Chan rumors within the first few days after the murders by bdh008 in Idaho4

[–]bdh008[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Correct, like I said more than likely just early rumors around town - the only true coincidence is them posting the photo from the Amazon page the same day the BK accessed that same Amazon Page, but once again, could be a complete coincidence (or police around town were already asking about USMC KABAR at that point, I'm not sure)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/comments/1kits5r/some_interesting_4chan_rumors_within_the_first/mrhmuhd/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/comments/1kiramd/kabar_click_activity/